Liverpool won't win the Premiership 2005-2006

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Well, probably not, anyway.

Blimey kids, its less than a fortnight to the start of the new Premiership season, and just five days to the rest of the league. Post excitable preambles, predictions and Evertonian prophecies of doom here.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)

Although I'm starting to think Liverpool might knock Man Utd out of the top three this season.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:34 (twenty years ago)

I think Liverpool might win it, actually.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:34 (twenty years ago)

If Liverpool win the premiership I will paint myself red and run naked through the streets of the Everton half of Liverpool. Or of course in fact I won't, but it sounds impressive.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)

Real version: I don't think they have a significant chance. I think they will be closer to the top three, and they might even be in a three-way race for second.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)

prediction of final table:

Chelsea
Man Utd
Arsenal
Liverpool
Middlesbro
Bolton
Tottenham
Man City
Fulham
Birmingham
Everton
Newcastle
Aston Villa
Charlton
Blackburn
Portsmouth
West Ham
Sunderland
West Brom
Wigan

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)

Fulham in particular are much too high. I'll go for:
Chelsea
Man Utd
Arsenal
Liverpool
Middlesbrough
Bolton
Tottenham
Everton
Aston Villa
Birmingham
Man City
Charlton
Newcastle
Portsmouth
Fulham
Blackburn
Sunderland
West Brom
Wigan
West Ham

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:56 (twenty years ago)

Chelsea
Man Utd
Arsenal
Liverpool
Tottenham
Bolton
Middlesbrough
Aston Villa
Newcastle
Everton
Charlton
Man City
Birmingham
Portsmouth
West Brom
Sunderland
Fulham
Blackburn
West Ham
Wigan

Onimo (GerryNemo), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)

Chelsea
Manchester United
Arsenal
Liverpool
Tottenham
Middlebrough
Bolton
Newcastle
Aston Villa
Charlton
Manchester City
Blackburn
Everton
Birmingham
Portsmouth
WBA
Fulham
Sunderland
West Ham
Wigan

AdrianB (AdrianB), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)

Souness as 1st managerial sacking, anyone?

AdrianB (AdrianB), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)

Chelsea
Liverpool
Arsenal
Man Utd
Bolton
Middlesbro
Blackburn
Tottenham
Charlton
Aston Villa
Newcastle
Birmingham
Everton
Fulham
Portsmouth
Sunderland
West Ham
Man City
West Brom
Wigan

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)

Chelsea
Arsenal
Manchester United
Liverpool
Manchester City
Bolton
Everton
Tottenham
Middlesbrough
Charlton
Newcastle
Aston Villa
Blackburn
Fulham
Birmingham
Portsmouth
WBA
West Ham
Wigan
Sunderland

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)

likely managerial sackings/changes:

Souness
Hughes
O'Leary
Coleman
Moyes (lured elsewhere?)
whoever is managing Portsmouth these days

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)

I love how Man City went from relegation to near-Champions in the span of a few minutes.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

near-Champions

Projected points margin between 1st and 5th in my table: 39

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

Ah heh, make that 29. Maths GCSE was a long time ago :(

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

Chelsea
Manchester United
Arsenal
Liverpool
Tottenham
Middlesbrough
Bolton
Man City
Everton
Newcastle
Birmingham
Portsmouth
Aston Villa
Fulham
Blackburn
Charlton
Sunderland
West Ham
West Brom
Wigan

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

Bargain of the season will be Teemu Taino, Auxurre's most expensive player in FIFA 2005 (gamecube version), but Spurs got him for free, with like no fanfare. And he can play anywhere in midfield.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

I think Boro will have a bad season.

Everton and Newcastle will be affected by having to play in Europe so early. And, Everton seem to have trouble signing anyone.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

Man Utd
Chelsea
Arsenal
Liverpool
Newcastle
Middlesbro
Aston Villa
Everton
Fulham
Bolton
Tottenham
Charlton
Man City
Blackburn
Birmingham
Sunderland
West Ham
Portsmouth
West Brom
Wigan

ken c (ken c), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

(Mencap I meant Champions League, sorry for the unfortunate shorthand)

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

Wigan stay up!

jel -- (jel), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

If Liverpool win the Premiership this season I'll dance naked through the streets of Merseyside.

Dirty Welshing bastard (daveb), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

Sometimes, when I say 'think', I mean hope.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Why do you think Boro will do badly jel? They seem better poised than most teams to challenge Liverpool for fourth spot this season, esp. having been able to build steadily over the last two years and now having signed Yakubu - will be interesting to see how he links up with Hasselbaink.

xpost, ah, never mind

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Seriously, one well equipped team always has to mess up, it could well be Boro this year.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

I've got a feeling that this'll be Curbishly's last season at Charlton.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

Maybe, but their momentum seems TOO strong, ditto Bolton, maybe even Spurs.

It seems more likely to me that it will be Everton who will be unable to capitalise on last year's success...but I don't have much to base that on other than how much of a surprise it was last season. I don't think there are many people who expect them to finish in the top 5 this time, just because.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

Everton will stay top 10 I think - there's still time for them to make some signings. James Beattie might have a better season for them this time. In for a pasting in the Champions League qualifier, I fear.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

Chelsea
Man Utd
Liverpool
Arsenal
Middlesbro
Tottenham
Everton
Bolton
Man City
Newcastle
Aston Villa
Birmingham
Blackburn
Charlton
Wigan
Portsmouth
Sunderland
Fulham
West Brom
West Ham

Tom (Groke), Monday, 1 August 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

Chelsea
Arsenal
Man Utd
Spurs
Newcastle
Liverpool
Bolton
Birmingham
Middlesboro
Everton
Aston Villa
Man City
Charlton
Blackburn
West Ham
Portsmouth
Wigan
WBA
Fulham
Sunderland

Oh, I reckon Chris Coleman could be the first manager to go. Birmingham could be a surprise as they have a lot of strikers and money. Spurs may just be wishful thinking.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 1 August 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

Where's DJ Martian? I need a pompey update!

jel -- (jel), Monday, 1 August 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

1. Chelsea
2. Arsenal
3. Liverpool
4. Man Utd
5. Tottenham
6. Middlesbrough
7. Bolton
8. Blackburn
9. Everton
10. Aston Villa
11. Charlton
12. Birmingham
13. Newcastle
14. Man City
15. Sunderland
16. Portsmouth
17. West Ham
18. West Brom
19. Fulham
20. Wigan

I have a feeling it could all go a bit wrong for Fulham this time round, Southampton style. This years surprise package = Blackburn, definitely. They'll kick every team off the park and draw 0-0 with all the big boys. Everton looked more than a bit limp towards the end of last season. Man Utd? Depends on Owen I suppose but otherwise they'll be worse than last year. Spurs, with a bigger squad, no nasty Santini-Jol transition phase and Edgar Davids will nick fifth. Charlton to be top six at Christmas and collapse afterwards, as normal. Definitely Souness or Coleman to go first.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 1 August 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)

In my local pub Souness seems to be the consenus vote for first to go too.

M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 1 August 2005 21:48 (twenty years ago)

Blackburn only learned how to defend when they absolutely had to - they're still lacking upfront. Granted so are Fulham really but they've still got Malbranque!

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 1 August 2005 22:04 (twenty years ago)

Utd should do better than last year now they finally have a decent keeper and assuming Van Nistelrooy is back to full fitness. Signing Owen likely to do them more harm than good tho I figure.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 1 August 2005 22:07 (twenty years ago)

Can't see the sense in signing Owen, when United now only have one central striker in RVN, with others playing off him. Owen's hardly a target man.

AdrianB (AdrianB), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 00:18 (twenty years ago)

As a Villa fan, can I just say that I expect us to have a dismal season. We've only two main strikers, both in their 30's, and Martin Laursen one of our two main central defenders is unlikely to play more than a handful of games, leaving us to play one of the kids. We were promised big signings that once again haven't materialised, and our pre-season games have been woeful. Wolves played us off the park, and we were lucky to scrape a draw against non league Tamworth.

Koorbssir (Koorbssir), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)

yeah matt dc otm re blackburn, if they manage a confident start they will become v difficult, and i think bellamy and indeed shefki kooky might be alright

jel also otm re middlesbrough, massively complacent at end of last season, something is clearly not right there. defence is probly past it, midfield besides downing (sometimes) is uninspired, hasselbaink meh.

portsmouth to hover midtable but be untroubled by relegation for the most part

man city without barton and dunne to begin with might start very badly indeed.

hold tight the private caller (mwah), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

I am expecting young Lukey Moore to light up the premiership, before being sold in the January transfer window.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 08:37 (twenty years ago)

whats up with dunne?

charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

hasselbaink meh

second best performing striker in the Premiership statistically last season no? plus they have Yakubu now.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

dunne broke his foot kicking a door in frusration at joey barton biting his hand!

UH HUH.

which statistics wd those be, opta? it could even be true. i still don't fancy em much - when things go their way they will wax it but they will give up just as often.

hold tight the private caller (mwah), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

charlton if u dont know about dunne then u probably won't know about the latest exploits of the premiership's realest gangsta!

hold tight the private caller (mwah), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 09:19 (twenty years ago)

As a Villa fan [...] our pre-season games have been woeful

B-but you won one 14-0!

I won't bother doing the table, cos it'll just be a case of stacking up as many half-decent teams above Liverpool as I can reasonably get away with and then tucking Everton in there too.

I do think it's possible that the ManYoo-RedFilth gap may vaporise this season. No change in the top two. Pompey to go down.

I'm kinda glad that we're not prepared to meet various players' outrageous wage-demands or even gloss over their dubious fitness (hello, Forssell) in order to bolster the squad, but this admirable caution doesn't leave us any stronger than we've been since Gravesen's departure. Lest we forget...21pts from the second half of 04-05. Erk.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)

Would you like Moyes to sign Baros, MJ?

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

oh i know all about my main man dioufy!

i knwe dunne got involved with barton, but i didnt know it was to an extent where he'd be missing opening games?

charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

why did none of the Premiership clubs buy that Andy Johnson guy?

Ludo (Ludo), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

Because they all have people who can take penalties already.

ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

Will you fuckers stop tipping West Ham to go down or I will come round your gaffs and bash your faces with chair legs, you pissy gays.

What part of 'Pardew keen on Togo forward' do you think will stop us scoring goals? You wait, Yossi Benayoun will take the league by storm. Then move to Chelsea in the January transfer window.

All this at a bargain price of £645 for a season ticket.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

You realise I was joking, right?

No. I am stupid. And I don't know how to convey sarcasm either :-)

Hugglez to Matt DC !

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 7 May 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

(non-sarcastic hugglez, you understand! last day disappointments = teh worst)

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 7 May 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

last day disappointments = teh worst

qft. There's nothing sweeter than getting everything wrapped up three or four games early.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 7 May 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

xpost, guh, apologies for confusion and/or offense caused. My sarcasm detector detector has been destroyed by Johnny B.

caek (caek), Sunday, 7 May 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha history made again at Highbury as Johansson appears to have become the fastest sending-off ever and without even touching the ball.

on the news earlier they showed Henry giving his stinky boots to some feral child. very sweet, apart from the child.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Sunday, 7 May 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

i know he wouldn't but lol at idea of Sheringham thinking 'i can't send Spurs down' so deliberately fluffing the penalty.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Sunday, 7 May 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

Hansen is making very little effort to conceal his innate evil these days, when he leant in towards Lawro before I feared he would unhinge his jaw and swallow him.

Michael A Neuman (Ferg), Sunday, 7 May 2006 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

i know he wouldn't but lol at idea of Sheringham thinking 'i can't send Spurs down' so deliberately fluffing the penalty.

I honestly think he did. He waited for the keeper to dive, and then deliberately hit it in that direction. Oh Teddy, Teddy...

Teh HoBBler (the pirate king), Sunday, 7 May 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think so. He went to pieces after that and was substituted shortly after.

I felt sympathy for the Spurs fans (a view not shared by anyone around me). They made very little noise for their team however. 2-1 also flattered them.

The woman next to me hit me in the face with an "Easy" celebration. It has to stop.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Monday, 8 May 2006 07:52 (nineteen years ago)

We don't call 'em Rottenham round our way for nothing.

Arsenal: Spawniest bunch of fuckers that ever took to a football field? They'll win the Champions League AND keep Henry now.

Pete W (peterw), Monday, 8 May 2006 08:00 (nineteen years ago)

There once was a team called Tottenham
Who got dicky tummies from rotten ham
Were fifth by a wafer
Went into the UEFA
Where the second tier of Europe will batter 'em.

Dave B (daveb), Monday, 8 May 2006 08:32 (nineteen years ago)

Trottenham.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Monday, 8 May 2006 08:43 (nineteen years ago)

Is this their first appearance on tabloid front pages since Gazza era? I think it might be.

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 8 May 2006 08:52 (nineteen years ago)

Is this their first appearance on tabloid front pages since Gazza era? I think it might be.

No, David Howells was on the front page of both The Sun and The Star when he was pictured buying a new sofa from DFS Edmonton in 1996.

Teh HoBBler (the pirate king), Monday, 8 May 2006 09:05 (nineteen years ago)

Martin Jol still looks to be suffering.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 8 May 2006 11:16 (nineteen years ago)

lol football 365:

Inevitable Headlines Of The Day
'Tottenham Trotspur' - The Sun.

'Curse Of The Tummy' - The Mirror.

'Sick Note For Spurs' - The Daily Mail.

'Play It Again, Salmonella' - The Sun.

'A Kick In The Guts For Jol' - The Daily Mail.

'Sick As A Marriott' - The Daily Mirror.

'Diana Death: Truth At Last' - The Daily Express.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 8 May 2006 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

'Michael Carrick in Asylum Fury Diana Link' - Daily Express

charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 8 May 2006 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

i thought someone might have gone for actual "sick as a parrot", since it was allegedly a tottingham parrot what gave rise to this phrase, wasn't it?

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 8 May 2006 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

A what?

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 8 May 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

a tottingham parrot. wasn't it meant to have keeled over on hearing the arse had got promoted ahead of spurs after the first world war?

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Monday, 8 May 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

A league table based on Mark Lawrenson's BBC predictions throughout the season:

Team Pts
1 Chelsea 86
2 Arsenal 80
3 Man Utd 78
4 Liverpool 64
5 Everton 60
6 Bolton 56
7 Newcastle 53
8 Tottenham 49
9 Birmingham 48
10 Pompey 40
11 Man City 39
12 Charlton 36
13 Aston Villa 32
14 Fulham 32
15 Blackburn 30
16 Wigan 28
17 Boro 25
18 West Brom 25
19 West Ham 22
20 Sunderland 19

Mikey G (Mikey G), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

I like how persistently wrong he was about West Ham, Wigan, Birmingham for instance.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 8 May 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

and blackburn. he predicted them to lose pretty much every weekend. then at the end, begrudgingly predicted them to beat man city

charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 8 May 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

newsflash: Spurs have asked the Premier League for a replay of the West Ham game

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

How fucking stupid is Levy? I reckon they should go for it. Double or quits. Lose and it's no UEFA Cup place.

Christ, have some dignity.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

i think we can safely assume prem league will tell them to eff off (sorry spurs fans)

CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

I suppose the only way they might agree to it is if there was found to have been FOUL PLAY.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

Premier League, Have already replied: the Result Stands.

However there will be a Premier League meeting to discuss the contents of the Spurs letter.

This letter is on the Official Spurs website and apparently is rather long.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

The word 'silly' was invented for things like this.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

DJ Martian calling something 'rather long'? Blimey, the mind boggles.

If the squad were actually found to have been poisoned, what would happen? I presume Spurs sue for loads of money. The Arnesen case from last year basically paid Edgar Davids' wages. If we threaten legal action against someone every summer we'll be able to keep merrily signing superfluous midfielders for years to come.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

Did they attach that photo of Wenger in a chef's hat? "Look, evidence!"

Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

http://i2.tinypic.com/xm1kk7.gif

Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/albaalba/chef.jpg

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

who are the birmingham players who refused to play at the weekend.

is one forssel, or was he injured again? jarosik was a loanee, and has gone back to chelsea, what about...sutton? or was he already gone?

charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/b/birmingham_city/4754683.stm

evidence suggests... melchiot, certainly (after the bollocking he's been getting all season) and i dunno, nicky butt hates being there doesnt he? sutton feels wrong

rtcotm (mwah), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

yea, melchiot has been released, but, he played the actual game, right? so, unless its ambiguous reporting, surely it'd have to be someone who refused to play, meaning, didnt play?

charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

West Ham chairman Terrance Brown has written to the FA to ask for the 1923 FA Cup Final to be replayed. Brown notes that the crowd, which swelled to over 200,000 around the pitch, "inhibited wing play" and "there was a horse on the pitch".

Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 10:01 (nineteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4761715.stm

Will the hotel now sue Spurs?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41388000/jpg/_41388303_carrickpa203.jpg

Why no mention of the suspicious strangling of Spurs players by foes unseen?

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 11 May 2006 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

If it was the gastroenteritis I guess that they will have to put stronger disinfectant in the water of the White Hart Lane communal bath.

Mooro (Mooro), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.football365.com/news/story_185137.shtml

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

He was good for us though.

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

The club is currently experiencing an extremely sensitive period, yet Kenny, who remains an employee, has chosen to publicly express his views through the media, without seeking prior permission or consultation, and not directly to any member of the board, despite limitless opportunities to do so.

Limitless opportunities? Typical Birmingham City hyperbole.

He might be talking shite, but I'm not keen on the idea of him needing permission to do so.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 12 May 2006 07:11 (nineteen years ago)

I think I hate Porningham Titty.

Dave B (daveb), Friday, 12 May 2006 08:26 (nineteen years ago)

kcs pretty well respected, no?

charltonlido (gareth), Friday, 12 May 2006 11:26 (nineteen years ago)

i am

ken c (ken c), Friday, 12 May 2006 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

Liverpool won't win the Premiership anything 2005-2006

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 13 May 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

apart from the FA cup.

and lots of jam.

ken c (ken c), Saturday, 13 May 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

Looks like I jinxed it for the Hammers.

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 13 May 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

It's OK, James - on last year's Champions' League final thread I was smugging it up at 8:30-ish having predicted that Liverpool would be 3-0 down by half-time. I was a pretty smart guy until the 61st minute...

Liverpool FC are a jinx on the whole world.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 14 May 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)


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