Joaquin Phoenix IS Johnny Cash in . . . Walk the Line

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http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/walk_the_line/

Well?...

I don't really have an opinion on this one way or another, I guess. I suppose I can only hope that the studios trying desperately to cash in on "Ray"'s success keep picking good musicians to do biopics about. Alhough "the Perry Como Story" starring Jimmy Fallon could, in fact, be gangbusters.

― Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 04:51 (twenty-one years ago)

what baffles me: we've had a couple elvis biopics, one for jerry lee, even one for roy orbison i think and now one for johnny, and no one's thought to do one on sam phillips?

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 04:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Looks ok, I guess. Could've gone for a different June though...

also, wtf is with the shepard fairey artwork? That makes me not want to see the movie.

― Dr. Glen Y. Abreu (dr g), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 05:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't mean to steer the thread in another direction, but since we're talking biopics, i just discovered this as well.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/getrichordietryin/

yikes.

― Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 05:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, now THERE is a piece of shit.

― Dr. Glen Y. Abreu (dr g), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 05:07 (twenty-one years ago)

CARLU PERKINSAN!

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 05:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i knew this (the 50 cent movie) was coming out and i've mentioned this in another thread, but my mind continues to be blown by the fact that jim sheridan (my left foot, in america, in the name of the father) is behind the lens on this one. not because he's it's non-irish subject matter but just because...huh?

― Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 05:12 (twenty-one years ago)

(ahem) i'll use this opportunity to subtract the "he's" from that last sentence and to set us back on track to talking about johnny cash.

― Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe (Plastic Gas Booby Trap), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 05:14 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0358273/

Shooter Jennings plays his own father in the flick.
John Carter Cash is also in there.

― kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 05:36 (twenty-one years ago)

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/walk_the_line/joaquin_phoenix/walktheline1.jpg http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/walk_the_line/_group_photos/joaquin_phoenix1.jpg

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/walk_the_line/joaquin_phoenix/walk.jpg

his body type seems WAY OFF in that 2nd pic.

― kingfish (Kingfish), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 05:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Clue: no-one knows who Sam Phillips is.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 08:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, Curtis Hanson, who isn't exactly your number one hip hop dude, directed 8 Mile, and it was good. Maybe an outsider director can make the story more interesting to those who do not care much about 50 Cent's music. No need to diss the film yet.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 09:35 (twenty-one years ago)

The 50 Cent trailer looks like ass, but I think that's just the graphics they used are so cheesy - the actual footage doesn't look half bad.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, it looks completely bad.

― Dr. Glen Y. Abreu (dr g), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sure there are bigger douchebags with better how-they-got-shot-a-whole-bunch stories.

― Dr. Glen Y. Abreu (dr g), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

both look terrible

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd rather watch the 50 cent one though

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, that looks boring.

― Truckdrivin' Buddha (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Joaquin is way too pretty and completely the wrong build to be Johnny Cash. Sorta like how Will Smith was completely wrong as Ali.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

You're just angry because they didn't pick you.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

actually I was holding out for the 50 Cent role.

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Doesn't Tommy Lee Jones have a son that could play this part?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i wish that joaquin phoenix would be nik fiend in ... i walk the line (the alien sex fiend story).

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

The artwork is terrible (Hatch Show Print meets intro to Photoshop, and all the silhouettes have Joaquin Phoenix's facial features instead of Johnny's), but the trailer doesn't look as bad I expected.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/walk_the_line/

As great man biopics go, it's bound to be better than Ray and The Aviator.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't Allison Anders doing a Cash biopic as well?

― Miss Misery (thatgirl), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Advance word on this is good.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 23 September 2005 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

This is going to be so laughably awful. I'm going to see it, just because J. Phoenix automatically = camp.

"Hey, you know 'Ray,' right? Alright, well this is THAT.. but with.. wait for it... JOHNNY CASH!" "here is 52,000,000 dollars"

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 23 September 2005 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't understand why people bag on The Aviator.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 23 September 2005 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

cuz it's a total piece of shit?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Me, because I loathe Leonardo DiCaprio.

― luna (luna.c), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Those aren't good reasons.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

This looks pretty meh. The trailer is not as cheesy as I expected, but Phoenix just doesn't strike me as Cash. He doesn't have enough bravado, isn't at ease enough with himself, doesn't look grizzled enough. I can't picture him getting into a barfight.

― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

is he going to cry in this movie like he does in every fucking movie he's in??

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

So, question: Who would YOU like to see play Cash?

― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe a younger Robert Duvall?

― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahaha

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah Tender Mercies kind of makes this film sort of pointless don't it.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Or a younger Tommy Lee Jones?

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

You laugh at the Robert Duvall suggestion, but after seeing him in The Apostle, I really think he could pull it off.

― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, I was laughing because Duvall BASICALLY played Cash/Haggard in Tender Mercies and he sang and wrote songs to boot!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, ok. Didn't see it. Should I rent that shit?

― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

And you thought I was being clever.

― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes! It's quite good esp. Duvall's performance.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh man that 50 movie looks so gangsta.

Raper biopics = classic

Great man biopics = dud

I bet you anything the last half of that movie is devoted to Cash's addictions.

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Friday, 23 September 2005 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Johnny Cash = at ease with himself???? He was haunted by about 1,000,000,000 demons, I mean, one time he crawled into a cave to die, for God's sakes. I wonder if that'll be in there.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Not half bad, Walk the Line.

― Remy (x Jeremy), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't see anything on IMDB about Anders being involved in a Cash project.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Johnny Cash = at ease with himself???? He was haunted by about 1,000,000,000 demons, I mean, one time he crawled into a cave to die, for God's sakes. I wonder if that'll be in there.

-- Tracer Hand (tracerhan...), September 23rd, 2005.

Yeah, but he exuded confidence. Phoenix looks like he's secretly afraid of touching poo the whole time.

― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 23 September 2005 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sure how I feel about Reese Witherspoon as June. She seems a bit too perky.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Saturday, 24 September 2005 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I don't buy it either.

― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 24 September 2005 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

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3. Letterman is getting old, he needs to retire. He doesn't have it anymore. Sometimes he acts like a dufus, actually it is not acting. He is a dufus.

Posted at 10:23AM on Feb 12th 2009 by fkay

― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 13 February 2009 00:35 (seventeen years ago)

"What can you tell us about your days with the Unabomber?" (I heart Letterman when he gets baffled/annoyed)

― Chris Barrus (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 13 February 2009 00:37 (seventeen years ago)

I place bets on this all being an elaborate stunt/game.

― one art, please (Trayce), Friday, 13 February 2009 00:42 (seventeen years ago)

yeah its too out of left field to be real

― its gotta be HOOSy para steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Friday, 13 February 2009 00:44 (seventeen years ago)

The timing with the doco he's making, plus the fact everyone loves a public meltdown these days.

I'm getting a bit tired of faked up strangeness viral marketing shit, tbh.

― one art, please (Trayce), Friday, 13 February 2009 00:46 (seventeen years ago)

yeah mean dave is the best.

"that seems unlikely."

"joaquin i'm sorry you couldn't be here tonight"

― Yah Trick Ya Kid K (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 13 February 2009 00:47 (seventeen years ago)

I thought it was pretty clear he was faking it in the video. He almost broke character a couple of times.

― You just got HAPPENED (Hurting 2), Friday, 13 February 2009 00:48 (seventeen years ago)

He's no Andy Kaufman

― You just got HAPPENED (Hurting 2), Friday, 13 February 2009 00:48 (seventeen years ago)

There seems to be some confusion over whether there's a mockumentary or not

(from rent's link upthread):
We've been on to Joaquin's scam for weeks now -- no doubt he's shooting a mockumentary with Casey Affleck ... pretending he's quitting acting to become a rap star -- even though his singing sucks -- and showing how the media will fall for it.

http://www.celebritygenius.com/_global/news.html?articlelink=http://www.tmz.com/2009/02/12/letterman-falls-for-the-joaquin-sideshow/&celebrityKeywords=Casey%20Affleck&width=1680&height=1050

If it is is a mockumentary, it seems like it will be really bad.

― steve "no neck" yamaguchi (vermonter), Friday, 13 February 2009 01:14 (seventeen years ago)

OK I just watched the letterman clip and there is no way he wasn't putting that on. He was piss-pulling with relish the whole time! How is it not obvious?

― one art, please (Trayce), Friday, 13 February 2009 12:05 (seventeen years ago)

If it was a Glover-esque stunt, shouldn't Phoenix have been, you know, funny? Or marginally intriguing?

― Sara Sara Sara, Friday, 13 February 2009 14:04 (seventeen years ago)

I can't watch the clip anymore. :-(

― Nathalie (stevienixed), Friday, 13 February 2009 14:08 (seventeen years ago)

If it was a Glover-esque stunt, shouldn't Phoenix have been, you know, funny?

Crispin's famed stunt appearance was not esp funny either -- it was unsettling.

― Dr Morbius, Friday, 13 February 2009 14:13 (seventeen years ago)

To say the least. I remember seeing that when it first aired (I was but a wee recent HS graduate) and thinking, "Uh, OK, George McFly is a freaking nutcase."

― Pancakes Hackman, Friday, 13 February 2009 14:22 (seventeen years ago)

OK, then yeah, add "unsettling" to the list of things Phoenix' appearance wasn't. It was mostly just dull and awkward, and Dave was funnier than I remember him being in a long-ass time (though I haven't watched him in a long-ass time either).

― Sara Sara Sara, Friday, 13 February 2009 14:29 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2009/03/13/1236447446833.html

Phoenix came out on stage before 2am, smoking a cigarette and wearing a dishevelled dark suit, sneakers and his scraggly long hair and beard.

He began rapping to a beat played by the DJ and nodding to the music, although most of the lyrics were unintelligible. Then he responded to someone who appeared to be heckling him in the audience near the stage.

"We have a (double-expletive) in the audience," he said before jumping into the crowd. It was not immediately clear whether the two men exchanged any blows.

"I saw the guy screaming at Joaquin, and Joaquin just came down," said Jorge Lledo, 30, of Miami Beach.

Security guards swarmed the scene and dragged Phoenix away.

The bizarre spectacle struck many in the audience as the latest prank in an extended farce staged by Phoenix. Affleck, an Oscar-nominated actor who is also Phoenix's brother-in-law, is making a documentary about Phoenix's career shift.

"(Affleck's) camera was filming the whole time, so it makes me think he has ulterior motives," said Luis Gendron, 23, of Miami.

"He knows the game he's playing, and he's good at it," Gendron said of Phoenix.

People are too wise to viral shit anymore, heh.

― one art, please (Trayce), Friday, 13 March 2009 00:32 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

http://www.avclub.com/articles/joaquin-phoenixs-rap-career-finally-gets-its-bigsc,43113/

― Fee Fie Fo, FUNFNFUINFLFF! (HI DERE), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 19:09 (sixteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

http://www.filmjunk.com/images/weblog/2010/08/Im-Still-Here-Poster.jpg

Haven't yet quite decided whether I'm psyched for this or not.

― Born too beguiled (DavidM), Friday, 6 August 2010 16:05 (sixteen years ago)

is this his rap album

― Party Car! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 August 2010 16:22 (sixteen years ago)

It's a 'mock' documentary... or somesuch.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1356864/plotsummary

― Born too beguiled (DavidM), Friday, 6 August 2010 16:48 (sixteen years ago)

apart from that guy stood behind the lettering that poster's beautiful, btw.

― baby i know that you think i'm just a lion (schlump), Friday, 6 August 2010 17:16 (sixteen years ago)

Since WTL he's been brilliant in two different James Gray films.

― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 August 2010 21:50 (sixteen years ago)

That imdb description ignores/leaves out the leaked/hyped bits about cocaine and hookers.

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 7 August 2010 02:56 (sixteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2spHiYOORc

Trailer.

― And don't forget the joker (DavidM), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 13:51 (sixteen years ago)

he was good in the hangover

― k¸ (darraghmac), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 14:11 (sixteen years ago)

has anyone actually heard his music? I saw elsewhere that it was actually not 'rap' per se and was really good. but I can't remember where I heard that.

― akm, Wednesday, 18 August 2010 15:35 (sixteen years ago)

who's the dude he's with? at first i thought it was michael douglas

― funny hats were good enough for monk, goddamit! (zorn_bond.mp3), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 15:39 (sixteen years ago)

the narrating guy i mean

― funny hats were good enough for monk, goddamit! (zorn_bond.mp3), Wednesday, 18 August 2010 15:39 (sixteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

so has this been a big long con or what? the only thing I find hard to believe is that if it isn't, why would he allow himself to be filmed going down a drug hole like this?

― akm, Sunday, 12 September 2010 15:05 (sixteen years ago)

Ebert: "If this film turns out to still be part of an elaborate hoax, I'm going to be seriously pissed."

― when you've got a fist all ur problems look like faces (kenan), Sunday, 12 September 2010 17:25 (sixteen years ago)

david berman biopic

― dude (del), Sunday, 12 September 2010 17:26 (sixteen years ago)

This is the fakest movie I've seen in a long time, but not less train-wrecky entertaining for it.

― Eric H., Sunday, 12 September 2010 17:30 (sixteen years ago)

KT looks like he could be JP's dad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BOeMFLlC4Y

― Olde Executioner 8hundo (Eazy), Sunday, 12 September 2010 17:44 (sixteen years ago)

The beard and hair seem too much like props. People look like shit during a breakdown, but they don't alter their whole appearance to make themselves look even worse on purpose.

― Aimless, Sunday, 12 September 2010 18:12 (sixteen years ago)

^ Seriously, Turan needs to stop this charade or get his shit together and seek help.

― latebloomer, Monday, 13 September 2010 01:38 (sixteen years ago)

I'm assuming Ebert's weird insistence that this is definitely real is some sort of weird meta-hoax in and of itself.

― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 13 September 2010 03:45 (sixteen years ago)

^ Seriously, Ebert needs to stop this charade or get his shit together and seek help.

― latebloomer, Monday, 13 September 2010 03:49 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/17/movies/17affleck.html?_r=2&src=tptw

“It’s a terrific performance, it’s the performance of his career,” Mr. Affleck said.

i would find this a more believable statement if it hadn't been so blatant that this was a hoax, right from the start - before the 'documentary' was even announced. if they'd approached this with a bit more subtlety, this ~maybe~ could have been an interesting piece of work.

― just1n3, Friday, 17 September 2010 03:26 (sixteen years ago)

maybe you stunt fans should watch Two Lovers, if art still counts

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 17 September 2010 03:30 (sixteen years ago)

it doesn't. hopefully this will tide us over until Jackass 3-D.

― a cankle of rads (Gukbe), Friday, 17 September 2010 03:31 (sixteen years ago)

I find hard to believe is that if it isn't, why would he allow himself to be filmed going down a drug hole like this?

― akm, Sunday, September 12, 2010 3:05 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark

Well, John Frusciante did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKCahLDR7ew&feature=related

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 17 September 2010 03:44 (sixteen years ago)

hoo boy did James Gray ever get fucked over by this lame prank.

― Simon H., Friday, 17 September 2010 03:45 (sixteen years ago)

i guess my only problem with this is: why try to top Kaufman? I appreciate the balls of it and all, but you can't really do it better than he did.

― Matt Armstrong, Friday, 17 September 2010 03:49 (sixteen years ago)

I place bets on this all being an elaborate stunt/game.

― one art, please (Trayce), Friday, February 13, 2009 11:42 AM (1 year ago)

\o/

― Connect Four Tet (Trayce), Friday, 17 September 2010 04:03 (sixteen years ago)

don't know how anyone who remembers River Phoenix could have thought Casey Affleck would actually be chronicling his brother-in-law's self-destruction for a documentary. "Honey, you won't believe how much cocaine Joaquin just did! What a nut!"

― da croupier, Friday, 17 September 2010 04:20 (sixteen years ago)

were the sexual harrassment suits part of the fakery?

― sexy mfa (history mayne), Friday, 17 September 2010 14:49 (sixteen years ago)

^^ have been wondering that, too - i would guess so?

― just1n3, Friday, 17 September 2010 15:07 (sixteen years ago)

going into this knowing it was a hoax made it a lot more enjoyable, I would imagine.

not as good as I'd hoped, and the stuff with drugs/hookers/being a dick to his friends was horribly forced, but this was still worth it for the Diddy, Ben Stiller, and Edward James Olmos scenes.

nb: I have swam in the opening shot waterfall 1000 times!!!!!

― "ill samosa, hoos" "gibreel, big wrink" (gr8080), Monday, 20 September 2010 08:05 (sixteen years ago)

this is only half of it but i enjoyed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEI4LUqhfn8

― *lets go* (gr8080), Thursday, 23 September 2010 19:15 (sixteen years ago)

ten years pass...

All four Joaquin Phoenix threads are film-specific, so it doesn't really matter where I put this...I quite liked Inventing the Abbotts. It felt like they were trying to make a modern-day Splendor in the Grass or something, but for the performances alone, it worked. (Also felt vaguely like a precursor to The Virgin Suicides, which came two years later.)

― clemenza, Sunday, 14 February 2021 06:54 (five years ago)

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