FoF tells us how not to be a fag

... which will reverse itself in early adolescence, when your queer little son will adore roughhousing with the other boys.

“In one study of 60 effeminate boys ages 4 to 11, 98 percent of them engaged in cross-dressing, and 83 percent said they wished they had been born a girl.”

Wow, that's a scientific sampling alright. Who decided that these kids were 'effeminate' enough to be included in the study?

If you know what I mean ...

What is 2% of 60?

-- Woody Allen
(I forget which movie it's from)

http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=%22joseph+nicolosi%22&meta=

what century do these people live in?

When cutting-edge identity theory and troglodytic xenophobia collide.

Read another way, you could interpret that to mean that being gay is the norm, and you have to struggle to be straight! Way to make your case, Stoller.

Yes! This is why you must remain ever vigilant! The straight way of life is under attack!

That's exactly how I read it too.

Also called: playing with other children while growing up.

This is more or less the foundation of "Faith, Self-Loathing, and Massive Reinforcement of Your Willed Disavowal Of Your Own Feelings Can Make You Straight Again!" therapy.

Sad to be Gay
Tue 9 Aug, 9:00 pm - 9:50 pm 50mins

David Akinsanya hates being gay. He has been living as a gay man for 20 years but if he could take a pill to make him heterosexual he'd pop it without a second thought. In Sad to be Gay, David sees if it's possible to go straight. David believes his homosexuality is learned behaviour, but will it be something he can unlearn?

David decides to attend a controversial treatment centre in America that promises "freedom from homosexuality through the power of Jesus Christ". Many of the centre's staff and its clients are also "struggling with same sex attraction".

David makes a revealing and tearful admission about his unhappy past to the group - yet he starts to doubt the centre's methods, and begins to question whether its prayers and support will succeed in making him straight.

The documentary follows the ups and downs of David's turbulent journey and asks whether being gay is something you can change.

I would have liked to have seen it, but it clashed with the football and I aint no football missing faggot!
(ahem)

Did anyone see it? Quick review?

I believe this is called circular reasoning.

It was a classic case of the grass being greener on the other side. I think the answer for him would be to get through the issues he had from his childhood (which was dealt with a lot in the programme), and try to find a successful gay relationship than 'become straight' and then have the same problems finding a girlfriend.

The programme had an interesting look at whether people were born gay, or whether they grew up gay. It was also critical of how people used to look at homosexuality as a mental illness, comparable with paedophilia and bestiality; and seemed to suggest that some Christians still thought of it that way.

I hope the guy finds happiness, whatever happens.

The man in question definitely claimed that he had not been born gay, at the start.

(or, for me, realising that the thought of sex with *anyone* turns me on)

Without being patronising to him, how would he know whether he was born gay or not? I don't see how he could tell there difference.

I personally don't think people are born gay, but I don't think we can know for sure - I think its far more likely that its the environment that we grow up in that influences sexuality, but really I'm just speculating.

Of course, this doesn't mean being gay is a conscious choice - you aren't born with your personality, but it doesn't mean you have free will to choose it (hmm, although maybe some people will disagree with this as well?).

there is nothing more dangerous and repressive, i think, that being told that feeling itself is evil--that feeling is only for faggots.

It destroys the natural empathy that most children have.

if your son is bullied for being a fag, he's probably a fag.

However, I don't think that ILX is his target audience.

I call bullshit! Just read my post above yours.

Yeah, total bullshit, but then it's N_RQ innit?

this was preceeded a few months by an article in the Onion about a dad wondering if his infant son was gay, cuz he was all smiley & shit, etc...

(I think they mean "something which is sexual in its nature," i.e., SEX, i.e., children get pre-sexualized if you have sex with them, which is of course, you know, accurate.)

See "But I'm a Cheerleader."

See "But I'm a Cheerleader."

(don't actually go see it though cause it's crap).

So... the very same intolerance for homosexuality that many young boys learn from their elders, might turn other kids gay?

so, i wonder if a kid brings a gun to school to start blasting on all those who called him such names, that'd be cool, right?

further reduced: Homophobia is the cause homos!

Thinking back, I believe I must've disrupted my own normal sexual development around the age of three, when I discovered my dick. I think a far more sensible line of reasoning is that discovering how you body functions is a normal part of learning and development, and not a distortion in any sense.