English money.

However we did still have shilling and florin coins when I was younger, worth 5 and ten new pence each. Old florins/10ps were great big heavy round coins sad ro see them go.

Also a groat = 3d, so four groats to a shilling. Smallest coin = a farthing = a quarter old penny. It had a wren on it = smallest bird in Britain, v.tiny and cute.

The shilling and the 5p piece were identical in size and weight (and value), but was there a two shilling piece? I think not. (No longer sure...) (I was of exact age where you could extract significant profit from bamboozling grandparents over the exchange rate: "No, granny, one old penny = two new shilling = 25 new pences etc etc...")

I also though a groat was a quater of a farthing and not seen since the late middle ages.

1/4 penny - farthing hapenney penny 3d -thrupney bit (d for pence) 6d-sixpence shilling florin withe 2/- or 2/6 (note old elinglish prices £1/3/6 one pound three and six) half crown crown 10 bob note, ten shillings pound note 5 pound note 10 pound note

I believe there were higher note values issued by private banks.

But you are wrong about the groat = 3d = a quarter of a shilling, and only not minted since 1662 (=later even than the late middle ages, tho a little before even my time).

Of course there must have been smaller coinage than farthings at one time — but I don't know what.

We lost the Empire in my opinion because of the adoption into our diet of the FULL ENGLISH BREAKFAST = an admittedly delicious lorryload of fat and starch causing our captains and viceroys to snooze fitfully the livelong day, while "lesser breeds without the law" (kipling) plotted bitter treachery and ungrateful revolt...

Anyway you americans still use the imperial weights and measures system, this is said not knowing wether ned is american or not, even if you don't know what a stone is and you get your pint wrong :)

Imperial measurements are more human. You can guess inches and feet far more easily than centimeters. And as to those ml... what the heck? How are you supposed to be able to accurately guess things which are in the hundreds before you can actually see them? And temperature... what the HECK?!?? Centigrade CONFOUNDS me, I haven't known how hot anything is in about two years. And kilograms? The only things I think of being measured in grams and kilograms is DRUGS!!! Give me back pounds and stones. Please?

I can *divide* things which are measured in 12's. How the heck do you divide 10 objects between 3 or 4 people? You can't. Someone has to be the greedy one. Metric is RUBBISH!!!

Anyway, on money... I was born right as Nu Money (is that like Nu Maths?) came in. I can remember what a shilling looked like, but I can't remember what it was worth. I must say that the British love their coins. It's the only place I know that you can have a pocketful of change and actually have it be WORTH something. Except for you feel your jingle and think you've got £10 in there, then realise that it's all 2p coins. I mean, 2p coins- what the FUCK?!?!? They're HUGE!!! They're bigger than 5p and 10p, what is the use of that?

The GROAT was 4d, not 3d (what did I say up-thread?)

1 pint US = 440ml

1pint UK is 568ml

a gallon is 8 pints in both but obviously US is slightly smaller

US pint = 16 Floz.

UK pint = 20 Floz.

but I think fluid ounces are different sizes anyway.

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