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― Sarah, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Problems with quitting, which I so desperately want to do: I have no idea how to find a job in the aspect of the industry that I am interested in without my boss finding out. Clearly anywhere I applied would want a reference, and if she found out I was jumping ship I doubt she’d be inclined to give a good one. I don’t even know if 4 months of experience is enough to get me another position, or how bad it would look for me to leave so soon. Also, when I signed on, I implied that I would be willing to stay for 2 years (oops). My boss can’t even work the fax machine, so she will totally freak out at the idea of training someone new all over again. My life will almost undoubtedly be an insane hell from the moment my boss finds out I want to leave until the moment that I actually do.
I’ve never quit a job in this manner before and it seems scary and irresponsible but I don’t know how much long I can take it. There’s a lot of other stuff going on in my life (sick parents, recent breakup with bf of three years), and I’m pretty close to just snapping. I cry most days. I used to work at a group home for disturbed and physically violent teenagers and I was less stressed out there. I don’t want to sabotage my chances for a future in this industry, but I don’t know how much longer I can keep doing a job I hate that enables only my poverty. Advice welcome.
― LMN, Tuesday, 27 December 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago)
― remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago)
Unless your boss LAWFULLY TERMINATES you, which basically means she fires you for being a no-show alcoholic who never calls in or you are found using schedule one substances while on the job, she CANNOT legally give you a bad reference with an aim to prevent your employment anywhere else. You can sue her fucking lights out if she does, even if you get the other job.
Please get out and find somewhere else to work.
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 27 December 2005 16:36 (nineteen years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 16:37 (nineteen years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 16:42 (nineteen years ago)
― u saved me (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 16:46 (nineteen years ago)
But from everything I'm hearing, maybe the whole industry is wrong for me. Maybe I should just become a high school English teacher like I almost did right out of college, and accept that I'll never make a lot of money in exchange for not hating my life. I don't know what else to do.
― LMN, Tuesday, 27 December 2005 16:51 (nineteen years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago)
Is this true?! Holy crap! I'm quitting ASAP.
― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago)
See section VII, Defamation.
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 27 December 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago)
― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago)
― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 27 December 2005 17:37 (nineteen years ago)
I worked in publishing for a couple of years after I graduated from college and found out it was not for me pretty quickly -- I probably stuck around longer in a job I did not enjoy than I should have. I know things might seem bad right now but I think it is great that you are able to recognize early on that this is something you're not suited for and are getting ready to move on to something else. Good luck, lmn.
― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago)
Yeah that's kinda why I don't understand what use "references" are in the modern world. I mean they literally can't say anything about you unless you're on record as having broken the law or found in breach of a contract.
well, references can be people you've worked with. it's not quite the same as someone verifying previous employment dates, etc. with your former boss.
― tres letraj (tehresa), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago)
― smee (smee), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 17:45 (nineteen years ago)
Me too.
I am going to school! In MONTANA.
― gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago)
― dar1a g (daria g), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago)
I worked for 2 years in NYC in a crap EA job. I only stayed bc I wanted to stay in NYC and didn't want to do anything else enough to leave. I figured the next job I got would be just as bad as that one. Anyway, when I finally left, my boss gave me a bad reference to the book store I applied to work at, but they hired me anyway. If you like publishing well enough, keep your eyes open for better jobs at your company. If you can stick it out, people can get promoted after a year or so. If you really hate it and don't see the point of sticking around, why not try temping? You'll be doing the same stuff and probably getting paid better.
― marymary, Tuesday, 27 December 2005 22:24 (nineteen years ago)
― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 22:57 (nineteen years ago)
and just fyi, lmn, you're working for The Crazy Person. everyone i know who has worked an arts-related job has worked for The Crazy Person. he or she is a recognized type. one who will make your life hell, true, but at least you'll be able to commiserate with a lot of other people about technological incompetence, bizarre rudeness, insane demands, and an absolute lack of respect for boundaries.
― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 23:01 (nineteen years ago)
― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 23:19 (nineteen years ago)
I think you're safe working 6 months as a minimum -- can you hack another 8 weeks? First (and even second or third) jobs in pub'ing are never lengthy cos it's impossible to find out where you fit except by trial and error. Esp if you're in a position where personality-meshing is expected (ie edit. assistant or working closely with certain agents), you have to make a good match w/ your boss and/or with the style and sensibility of the house or department and BOY that can be a disaster if mis-matched. My first job was as asst to NOT ONE BUT TWO senior eds, each of whom wanted OPPOSITE qualities in an assistant. Hur-fucking-rah.
― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 23:26 (nineteen years ago)
That said, I hate the NY publishing industry, and there are more bad bosses out there than good ones, so if you're pretty sure you'd like to do something else, run away from it quickly before it sucks you in forever!
But if you do decide to interview elsewhere, I wouldn't tell your boss until you get another job and are giving your two-week notice. This is very, very common practice in publishing, and it's easy enough to sneak out for interviews. Publishing houses and agencies generally won't call your references unless they've already decided to hire you. Stick it out for as long as you can while you look for other positions elsewhere; it's always easier to get a new publishing job when you have one already.
And it's true that if your boss is that crazy (and I'm very, very curious as to who it is), the editor or whoever you interview with will know, and probably won't hold it against you for wanting to leave your current job so soon. Though I second Laurel's suggestion to try to make it for six months -- for some reason that looks so much better than four on a resume. (And Laurel, at one point I worked for two senior editors, too, also with totally conflicting demands. For two whole years. Man, that sucked.)
Good luck!
― nory (nory), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 23:40 (nineteen years ago)
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 23:43 (nineteen years ago)
i think most employers are like this. usually they just want to see whether your information checks out.
― born-again christians in the old corral (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 23:46 (nineteen years ago)
― ShawShank Rambo Connection (Carey), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 00:10 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/images/400/notonlybutalso_1.jpg
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)
Jerry's mom = Mrs. Ochmonek.
― jaymc, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:46 (eighteen years ago)
http://norbizness.com/archives/ducksoup.jpg
― ghost rider, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:47 (eighteen years ago)
tv's the wankette: my 62-yr-old aunt told me she reads you every day but that you're not as good as a-m c (who is evidently from nebraska like my aunt?)
i told her that you're a hotter piece of ass.
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)
yeah i watched one of those tracy/hepburn movies not long ago & it's like.. it's all snappy and lively and stylish but sometimes the dialogue reminds me why i hate gray's anatomy
Katherine Hepburn is in top form as a middle aged head of the all girls research department who feels threatened when a mysterious "efficiency expert" (Spencer Tracy) is sent in to introduce his great invention "EMEREK", the ultimate information source. Now the ladies in research fear that a computer will make their "human brain work" obsolete.
this has got to be more entertaining than painfully terrible right?
― daria-g, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)
no it's pretty awesome, srsly
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:50 (eighteen years ago)
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/0/01/250px-Musidora_as_Irma_Vep.jpg
― daria-g, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:51 (eighteen years ago)
that one is v v awesomely art-directed. but yes the "snappy dialogue" is like a ways removed removed in actual wit from 'his girl friday' or something.
― ghost rider, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:52 (eighteen years ago)
lol "special day."
― strongohulkington, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 21:58 (eighteen years ago)
mookie tell yr aunt to buy time magazine if she loved amc so much.
also thanks for reading and all that
― ghost rider, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:06 (eighteen years ago)
maybe you don't make enough references to buttfucking? but i suppose you're not actively courting the nebraskan-senior-citizen never-stop-talking demo, so it's cool
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:12 (eighteen years ago)
is yr aunt a large-headed gay british millionaire
― ghost rider, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:14 (eighteen years ago)
large-headed y
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 July 2007 22:15 (eighteen years ago)
i am writing resignation letter now! just over 1 month left! i am really nervous about the actual quitting, though. i am the world's worst job-quitter. eeks! but i must must tell them like, tomorrow.
― tehresa, Thursday, 19 July 2007 03:14 (eighteen years ago)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5apMroe1ykI
― milo z, Thursday, 19 July 2007 03:19 (eighteen years ago)
awesome. actually this is probably the wrong thread as i really like my boss and i'm not quitting out of anger. the job is pretty boring and i am underpaid but i'm not quitting because of that either! i'm just going back to school.
― tehresa, Thursday, 19 July 2007 03:23 (eighteen years ago)
guys i quit my job and now they want me back part time for better $$$. quitting yr job rules!
― haitch, Thursday, 19 July 2007 05:28 (eighteen years ago)
how did i miss this thread? desk set is adorable!
― get bent, Thursday, 19 July 2007 05:53 (eighteen years ago)
FUUUCK 1.5 DAYS.
― gr8080, Thursday, 19 July 2007 18:58 (eighteen years ago)
yo wtf @ boss going home sick while i was in a meeting therefore making it v. difficult to quit! i will still go turn in resignation to supervisor but this makes me feel awkward cause i wanted to have a nice discussion w/ boss lady before word spread.
― tehresa, Thursday, 19 July 2007 20:08 (eighteen years ago)
Can you call her personal tonight or is it not like that? That's what do in that situation if it was my boss but she's very chill.
― Jon Lewis, Thursday, 19 July 2007 20:16 (eighteen years ago)
Tomorrow is my last day at this time waster. Monday is my first day at a real job, arguably my first.
I've done about 1.5 hours of actual work today, and none more has been offered, despite my begging. HELP ME.
― Oilyrags, Thursday, 19 July 2007 20:20 (eighteen years ago)
oooh i have officially given notice to manager! still have to talk to people i work directly for, though, so more nerves!!!
― tehresa, Thursday, 19 July 2007 22:42 (eighteen years ago)
would love a job w/ 1.5 hrs of work a day ... would do free time w/ work i actually want to do for myself + ilx
― deej, Thursday, 19 July 2007 22:43 (eighteen years ago)
Good luck tehresa! We're striking tomorrow, so the entire office (apart from scabs) is in doldrums and walking about like they all want to quit right now.
― stet, Thursday, 19 July 2007 22:47 (eighteen years ago)
hay anyone want my job? spv wants me to help w/ interview process & train new person because she doesn't actaully know what i do.
good luck w/ strike, stet!
― tehresa, Friday, 20 July 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)
i will take your job
― the schef (adam schefter ha ha), Friday, 20 July 2007 16:25 (eighteen years ago)
gr80,Here is a checklist of things I need you to do before you leave tomorrow and few suggestions.To Do List: 1. Organize 13 past months of Files in the back file cabinet behind your desk. 2. Turn in keys and parking card 3. Clean desk and top compartments and organize materials in top cabinet 4. Communicate with us on any last minute changes that are emailed to you. 5. Input billing for next week's event.Suggestions: 1. Walk through offices upstairs and let the team know verbally that you have been promoted. 2. Drink the Beer that will be provided to you at 4pm or earlier after all work has been accomplishedThanks,Boss
Here is a checklist of things I need you to do before you leave tomorrow and few suggestions.
To Do List:
1. Organize 13 past months of Files in the back file cabinet behind your desk. 2. Turn in keys and parking card 3. Clean desk and top compartments and organize materials in top cabinet 4. Communicate with us on any last minute changes that are emailed to you. 5. Input billing for next week's event.
Suggestions:
1. Walk through offices upstairs and let the team know verbally that you have been promoted. 2. Drink the Beer that will be provided to you at 4pm or earlier after all work has been accomplished
Thanks,
Boss
― gr8080, Friday, 20 July 2007 16:41 (eighteen years ago)
xpost to cio thread but my manager apparently sent out a mass email saying i was leaving when i told her i wanted to talk to my direct bosses personally (but they are out til next week). argh. now i feel like a jerk.
ally, you better jump on it cause she called and said there's a temp she's thinking of giving it to! i can train u and mold u in my image lol!
gr80 yer boss sounds great! i want beer! i am actually already trying to get things in order for my departure that's a month away and doing all this backup docketing for myself in case things get overlooked.
― tehresa, Friday, 20 July 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)
ummm they just gave me my last check. arent they supposed to do that at the end of the day?
― The Macallan 18 Year, Friday, 20 July 2007 17:30 (eighteen years ago)
Not if they're going to be in a hurry to leave themselves at quitting time.
― Rock Hardy, Friday, 20 July 2007 18:30 (eighteen years ago)
I WANT TO QUIT MY JOB RIGHT NOW
INSTEAD OF NEXT WEEK
― David R., Friday, 20 July 2007 19:16 (eighteen years ago)
i am set to talk with big boss today (first day he's back) and secretary has tipped me off that he may offer to let me stay and work fridays only. conflicted! do i just say goodbye and go to school and not look back, or make that few extra bucks each week and be more tireder/busy? if he even offers, that is.
― tehresa, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 13:09 (eighteen years ago)
I'm BORED with being unemployed [Started by DG, last updated 15 seconds ago] 17 new answers I WANT TO QUIT MY JOB RIGHT NOW [Started by jess, last updated 25 seconds ago] 15 new answers
-> Roffle
― nathalie, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 13:09 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah these two threads need an exchange programme.
― onimo, Tuesday, 24 July 2007 13:10 (eighteen years ago)
yeah i just had that conversation and the 'i would really like to keep you even if only part time' came up and i definitely said i might be able to do that... i am probably getting in over my head here.
― tehresa, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 15:18 (eighteen years ago)
So, I did this yesterday. Utterly freakin' fed up and tired of being trapped in Orange County (sorry Ned, you're lovely of course but the landfill's a sty). I gave my boss 6 weeks notice, nothing lined up to go to and hoping nothing turns up until maybe February (an attitude I'll no doubt regret later).
― Jaq, Friday, 7 December 2007 15:37 (seventeen years ago)
(sorry Ned, you're lovely of course but the landfill's a sty)
It's a landfill! Who could blame you!
Anyway, sounds like you needed to do this for your sanity, so good on you. Let's have a celebratory farewell-and-to-heck-with-this-place dinner after your last day.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 December 2007 16:00 (seventeen years ago)
But it always looks so nice on Ned's photos.
― Ned Trifle II, Friday, 7 December 2007 16:09 (seventeen years ago)
Photoshop
― StanM, Friday, 7 December 2007 16:12 (seventeen years ago)
Quitting my job was one of the best things I did this year.
Of course, I found another one first. One of those things where time has given me wisdom.
― Pleasant Plains, Friday, 7 December 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago)
Tsk.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 December 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago)
Oh, I can always fall back on consulting when it comes down to it. I make more $ and have more freedom that way, but being an employee has other perqs (like health care benefits). The new light rail system is looking for someone with my quals, that could be fun. (xpost to PP)
― Jaq, Friday, 7 December 2007 16:18 (seventeen years ago)
Congrats -- hope the transition doesn't stress you out!
Was your boss shocked? "I had no idea that 20 days on/3 days off was stressing you out! Why didn't you tell me?"
― Rock Hardy, Friday, 7 December 2007 16:21 (seventeen years ago)
Better the light rail than the bus, my dear! Congratulations on what must have been a very satisfying decision; sorry about the next six weeks.
― Laurel, Friday, 7 December 2007 16:21 (seventeen years ago)
yeah lol you still have to work there for six weeks
― El Tomboto, Friday, 7 December 2007 16:22 (seventeen years ago)
I've got 2 weeks of vacation embedded in those 6 weeks :)
Boss is indeed very sad, and for that I do feel bad because he has been a great person to work with. It's powers above him that made things untenable.
― Jaq, Friday, 7 December 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago)
Just quit my job! Start another one in three weeks!
So very very stoked. It feels like someone just loosened the screws on my whole being.
― Sauvignon Blanc Mange (B.L.A.M.), Thursday, 18 August 2011 18:05 (fourteen years ago)
Hurray! Hurray! Calloo callay! (raises a glass to B.L.A.M.)
― Aimless, Thursday, 18 August 2011 18:14 (fourteen years ago)
Thankee, thankee. Pretty damn stoked out here. Been a long time coming.
― Sauvignon Blanc Mange (B.L.A.M.), Thursday, 18 August 2011 18:32 (fourteen years ago)