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anthony, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

They are very much yesterday's fashionable paratextual accessory, n'est ce pas? To use a footnote these days is like wearing Nicholson Baker and D F-W's handmedowns. Next season will see the well-dressed p-mod novel sporting META TAGS.

Edna Welthorpe, Mrs, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

If it takes up lots of space then classic cause I finish the page quicker then. hah! I rarely read the footnotes.

helenfordsdale, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Good for angling the word count in your favour.

Will, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i don't think that footnotes counted in our word counts. i could be wrong though!

katie, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Maybe its a Faculty thing, Katie. MML counted them.

Will, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Any piece with more footnotes than actual text had better be really damn entertaining.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

So let's mention Infinite Jest already, and start pissing on the book (though warn me before the whizz starts flying, as I will have nothing to do with the besmirchment of such a fine tome).

David Raposa, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Warn me as well, I'd like to put something waterproof on.

DG, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Though I love digressions and had footnoteitis after reading IJ, I haven't used any footnotes in papers yet this year (except for a special paper where the content had to follow along with a dialogue). Sometimes it's just easier to make the main body of the paper more discursive, rather than trying to decide how much it's OK to put in footnotes.

Josh, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

They're better than endnotes.

rosemary, Wednesday, 19 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

nine years pass...

hey ilx, i need your help doing footnotes + bibliography

i have to do a whole mess of footnotes

key requirement: they have to use as few words as possible

im working with a format of 'author, year, page number'

so you can go to the bibliography for the full thing

it sucks but that's wordcounts

and bc people write more than one thing a year you end up with abominations like '1937c'

anyway, i need help

what is the best footnote format, given my requirement of the lowest possible wordcount?

and what is the best bibliography format to go with it?

working on something appalling like 'surname, forename, (year) title (place: publisher, year)

i think i've seen this done only without the second year, but i hate the absence of the second year

a fake wannabe trying to be a pimp (history mayne), Wednesday, 14 September 2011 22:22 (fourteen years ago)

bump

a fake wannabe trying to be a pimp (history mayne), Thursday, 15 September 2011 00:13 (fourteen years ago)

i would have thought 'name, title (place: publisher, year), page#'

but i'd be willing to jettison place: publisher in the interests of brevity

first name only on first mention? abbreviate title on repeated mentions?

mookieproof, Thursday, 15 September 2011 00:19 (fourteen years ago)

ty

sry: yeah to clarify, there is no wordcount limit on the bibliography

so the thing is to have the smallest footnotes possible, but make them easy to cross-reference with the bibliography

this is the reason for 'surname, forename, (year), title...'

it's weird i guess but having the year on the left as you read down (bc after the first time you write the name you have '––––, (year) title...') makes it easier

so although its ugly, footnote format will be 'name, year, page#', i think. qn is really about the bibliography.

a fake wannabe trying to be a pimp (history mayne), Thursday, 15 September 2011 07:38 (fourteen years ago)

bump

a fake wannabe trying to be a pimp (history mayne), Thursday, 15 September 2011 15:47 (fourteen years ago)

this to me looks horrible, im not even sure it's 'allowed', yet this is what the workprint looks like:

Rotha, Paul, (1929) ‘British Directors’ “1914” Technique’, Film Weekly, 28 January 1929
—— (1930a) ‘A Museum for the Kinema and the Collecting of Films’, Connoisseur, July 1930
—— (1930b) The Film Till Now: A Survey of the Cinema (London: Jonathan Cape, 1930)

a fake wannabe trying to be a pimp (history mayne), Thursday, 15 September 2011 15:50 (fourteen years ago)

if you are interested in space saving just use first intials i.e. rotha, p.

also why put the date twice?

Lamp, Thursday, 15 September 2011 16:59 (fourteen years ago)

yeah no -- no space restriction on the bibliography, so long as i like

but you have identified the key thing: the date

i just hate the idea of putting

Rotha, Paul, (1929) ‘British Directors’ “1914” Technique’, Film Weekly, 28 January

im i crazy? like i say, there is no wordcount limit so i put the date twice as it were

in an ideal world it'd just have the second date, but the need to do '1931a', '1931b', which in turn stems from having to do the shortest possible footnotes, conflicts with that.

a fake wannabe trying to be a pimp (history mayne), Thursday, 15 September 2011 17:02 (fourteen years ago)

i would use the second date and a one-word version of the title, or an acronym, for same year footnotes.

zvookster, Thursday, 15 September 2011 17:27 (fourteen years ago)

ty yeah that is possible

this is not something i shd be getting neurotic abt but

a fake wannabe trying to be a pimp (history mayne), Thursday, 15 September 2011 23:18 (fourteen years ago)


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