"Live & Let Die" - classic or dud

LOVE for the boat chase

woman Bond shags in killed SHOCKA. This is why I hate Bond films.

Or so they say.

I'd have to view all of the films to make a judgement of the entire franchise! Some cable network used to have a Bond marathon every year at the same time my college had finals -- either the week of, or the week before when everyone should have been studying. There were some serious errors made because of Bond.

I saw a bit of this documentary film on Sunday.

That "Jaws" documentary was more intense.

This was a really complicated Bond flick, since i think it was one of the few where race really did play a major factor.

the IMDB has some other interesting bits

Nah, not really.

(* - thanks to TE for lending me this idea.)

Nah, not really.

(* - thanks to TE for lending me this idea.)

(but it's got Christopher Walken as the villain! And Patrick McNee! And Grace Jones as a mad psychopath! And an airship!!!)

I like Die Another Day quite a bit as well.

because of Bambi and thingy???

I have seen every Bond film over 9 times.

"Names is for tombstones baby." Wot a line!

Blaxploitation and Bond. On the face of it an absolutely ridiculous combination but it works so well.

No, because of Mr Kidd and Mr Wint. You need to watch it for a 10th time.

I can't sing the actual theme to Moonraker, but boy can I sing Disco Moonraker at the end.

i took a film/cultural studies class on Bond during my last term at university. Reading Umberto Eco was great, but once we got into the more modern post-modernism litcrit bullshit, i would get pissed off at the academic wankery.

Except for a snippet of the one w/ Christopher Walken

I would like to see Moonraker, because I fancy Lois Chiles

LEX! did you ever see a BOND FILM?

what kind of mad person turns on notifications anyway?

this reminds me of something i was mention to Jon on IM the other day. Umberto Eco wrote about all this.

There are only two sides in Bond flicks; you're either wit' him or agin'. Everyone against Bond(villian, henchman, or chick) must die in the flick(or Bond must come damn close to killing). The catch is that by sleeping with them, Bond can defuse and disarm ( or disempower, if you want to use that language). This is why Pussy Galore and Grace Jones didn't die. It is the rare circumstance that Bond's supersexual powers(he converts lipstick lesbians!) cannot save the villain's henchwoman(Annatop, Sophie Marceau, the chick in the intro to World Is Not Enough).

Conversely, the rare henchman can be saved too. Richard Kiel/Jaws gets a girlfriend(thus rediscovering/reclaiming his humanity from the monstrous/inhuman henchman role) and turns face, so Bond no longer has to kill him.

who saw the late 90's Mountain Dew advert with the Richard Kiel(with long hair!) cameo?

Surely you read the recent Brosnan quote about the 'painful one-liners.' Connery was the only one who could make those bearable. (tho I wouldn't know abt Pierce as I quit seeing them after the first Dalton)

Most of Moore's delivery was much more dry.

Only good Bond film though? From Russia With Love and the Living Daylights are superior pictures in every way. Although I may alone in my love for the Living Daylights, due to the really quite unwarrented prejudice against Dalton.

-- chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (joe.goode...), August 30th, 2005."

joe otm on both counts! 'TLD' pwns. great song too.

Stop getting Bond wrong!

Grace did die. She blew up!

she did? fuck, it's been over 10 years since i've seen the flick and memory fails.

The boat chase is great, anticipating Smokey And The Bandit, but there's plenty of good set pieces in this film. The "whose funeral?/Yours" opener, the flying school and the crocodile farm ("Trespassers will be eaten.")

Fantastic dialogue:

Bond pushed out of the Fillet of Soul restaurant in New York and exclaims, "Thank you!"

"For 20 bucks I'll take you to a klu klux klan cook-out."

"Names is for tombstones, baby!"

"Y'all take this honky out and waste 'im."

"Can't miss 'im, it's like following a cueball."

Felix to Bond and Solitaire: "What can you do on a train for sixteen hours?" Bond: "Say goodbye to Felix, darling."

"I got me a regular Ben Hur down here. Doing 95 minimum".

"The dog's foaming all at the mouth and she'd like to know whether you can come over and shoot it for her."

"That there is one of them there new car boats."

JW's "By the power invested in me I hereby commandeer this vehicle and all those persons within. And that means you, smartass!" speech.

"Somebody stole Zeke Rogers' boat. But he picked up a new one in his swimming pool."

"Are you sure that was your brother-in-law, sheriff?" (Louisiana police seeing a black guy driving the boat.)

The sign reads: "Make boating a fun sport - 3mph please" and all these dead-pan faces await Bond. JW Pepper's nervous breakdown, the car door falling off. The explanation scene is priceless: "Now J.W., this fellow's from England, see, and he's over here workin' with our government, sort of a... secret agent." "Secret agent! On whose side?"

Best line in Live & Let Die: "Names are for tombstones, baby!"

Best Moore Bond film: The Man with the Golden Gun

But even Connery at his weakest (Never Say Never Again) absolutely trumps everything Moore attempted with the role. And the Living Daylights was crap.

Best Bond film: Without question, Goldfinger.

I was convinced that Famke Janssen was the good girl, and delighted to see Minnie Driver in a tiny role, singing Stand By Your Man in a Russian accent.

History has added a edge to genial texan Joe Don Baker's suggestion in the last scene that "You two want to continue debriefing back in Guantanamo?"

Like most people, I think, I always thought it went "But if this ever-changing world in which we live in..." and have based a lifetime of jokes on that. A friend sent me two links to lyrics sites, though, which I know are notoriously inaccurate but I looked up the song and I think they might be right: it's "But if this ever-changing world in which we're living..."

Was this cleared up years ago and I missed it?

--What do we do with "In this ever-changing world in which we live in"?

He's actually saying "IF this ever-changing world in which we're livin'/Makes you give in and cry/Say live and let die."

I still have no idea why I was put on earth, but I know for sure that I was put on ILX to correct this mistake (I think it's the third time).

― Rick Massimo, Thursday, May 5, 2005 11:08 PM (sixteen years ago)

"But if this ever-changing world in which we live in..."

the full lol mishearing is "but in this ever changing world in which we live in", i.e. three "in"s. this is the first ilx citation of "in which we're living", from 2001:

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this is the first which includes the "if" at the start, from 2004:
Worst Rhyming Lyrics Ever...

xp!

This is not fair. I'm lodging a complaint with the Department of Prepositions.

What exactly is McCartney's maddening lyric in "Live and Let Die"? Is it, "In this ever-changing world in which we live in"? Or "in which we're living"?

McCartney considers and seems genuinely puzzled. "Um ... I think it's 'in which we're living.'"

He starts to sing to himself: "In this ever changing world....' It's funny. There's too many 'ins.' I'm not sure. I'd have to have actually look. I don't think about the lyric when I sing it. I think it's 'in which we're living.' 'In which we're living.' Or it could be 'in which we live in.' And that's kind of, sort of, wronger but cuter. That's kind of interesting. 'In which we live in.' In which we live in! I think it's 'In which we're living.'"

he definitely sings "but if", which makes sense with the next line ("but if this ever changing world... makes you give in and cry"); it does sound like he sings "in which we live in" though.

If he ever writes his memoirs: Wronger but Cuter.

The real question is: which way did Axl sing it??

i believe its "in which way did axl sing it in?"

I don't know but it was probably at least an hour after he should have sung it.