I fookin' HATE students! (even though I am one)

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The novelty of drinking wore off about five years ago

I pity you.

more like scarface am i rite choo fuckin cockaroach?

getting angry and telling them off was one option, but i decided to leave them alone and just feel free to make more noise myself. everybody wins!

hahahaha i imagine you do.

im 22, and finishing my final semester at a big american public university. this week past, the first week of classes, really opened my eyes to something. its been said that the generation entering college in america right now is the most supervised generation in human history. after this week, id have to agree. ive never seen a bigger group of souless consumers in clever t-shirts and blonde streaked hair. these people watch Laguna Beach without cringing. now, this could be revisionist history on my part, but when i entered school in 2000, just six years ago, people were a little different. there was at least a glimmer of fight in the kids. now its all gone, its everyone for himself because I'M THE MOST IMPORTANT KID EVER! MY PARENTS KNEW IT AND SO DO I! IM GONNA BE SUCH A HUGE FUCKING SUCCESS! etc. etc.

the paradox is that individuality is their only collective thought, which renders them all about as interesting as grains of sand.

so, upto11, i feel your pain.

and people love the show and the characters, which baffles me, but not nearly as much as it should.

hahaha, no, it's not like that. i mean, to begin with this house doesn't have any neighbors. it's on a tiny cul-de-sac and across the street is a day school. my thoughts were more along the lines of "well, if it's 3am and i feel like listening to an album or watching a movie, i'm going to go ahead and do it."

(only half joking here)

I think we can safely say this is revisionist history. ;-) It's always been like that. I remember a bunch of students at my university swigging beer and doing pot. It was all about discovering freedom, being away from your parents. I was never really bothered at that age. Maybe I should've, I discovered it about five years later.

now, this could be revisionist history on my part, but when i entered school in 2000, just six years ago, people were a little different. there was at least a glimmer of fight in the kids.

I think there is a bit of truth in that statement. Rising tuition fees, overprotective parents plus incredible amounts of pressure, beginning early in high school, have changed the nature of the average incoming undergraduate. I've got friends finishing up graduate/professional degrees who tell of 1st years with their entire life plans already figured out, and parents ready to throttle any professor or administrator who dares mess with said plan. Formerly raucous dormitories have been silenced and campus counsellors are nearly overwhelmed at exam time by 18 and 19 year old kids worried that doing poorly on their first ever mid-terms will keep them from getting into an MBA program after graduation.

The kids are most definitely not alright.

Students have been saying that since the dawn of time though.

Trayce, I do wonder if you're on to something, I think it's possible that kids' outlook wrt college has changed. But then, the value of a college education has changed -- it no longer guarantees you ANY job, much less a respectable position earning a living wage on which to raise a family. And a degree doesn't admit to you to any kind of intellectual elite like a classical education of old would have, because every idiot who could afford tuition has one. And god knows I've met college grads my own age who'd never learned to THINK, who couldn't follow a logical argument from point A to B.

In conclusion, I don't know what I'm saying, it's too early for me to be posting.

There aren't many of my type here so for fear of alienating myself from these people any more than i already have I shall refrain from identifying it (and therefore myself) any more specifically than that.

I'm glad y'all feel my pain.

Sure, I did, honestly. Plenty of that. A lot of people (bosses, friends of parents, etc.) will either look on this as quaint and eccentric, or kinda try too hard to find a way to justify a liberal arts degree as "useful" based on how much money I can make with it. whatevs..!

I feel like things have changed even in the past decade, when I was an undergrad at my liberal arts college it was generally kind of a weird, idealistic, free spirited sort of place.. I went back with some friends for an event there a few years after we'd graduated, and it was Friday night, the place was DEAD SILENT because a ton of people went home for the weekend, the campus had been all prettied up with some posh new buildings and a new student union that looked like a Barnes & Noble, and most of the students we did meet could've walked off the set of the O.C., it seemed. Kind of sad.

not to say that all college students are future republican voters (even-though a great many of them are), its that, for the most part, political debate doesn't exist on my campus. its either too hard to contemplate, or it won't make you any money so why care?

and yes, dar1a, they are trying to make every building on campus look like a barnes and noble: perfect in that sort of we-can-easily-wash-you-away-if-we-have-to sort of way.

Why, the professors, of course! Fortunately, though, now with No Child Left Behind: The College Years, they'll be too busy filling out evaluation forms to keep up with Chomsky...

Superficially in the sense that they almost all are political lefties, but in practice they are part of the most conservative institutional culture this side of the US military.. It's quite an experience trying to communicate with a Marxist professor who turns out to be more important than everyone and can't be bothered to acknowledge your existence.

HI DERE. But I do live about a 10 minutes drive from campus. Problem is so does EVERYONE ELSE and thus there are about 12 parking spaces for about 20,000 commuters.