This idea of a long, meaningful journey still has resonance - the big thing on Christmas TV here this year is Shackleton, where Kenneth Branagh recreates an ill-fated antarctic exploration trip. In Bill Drummond's wonderful 45 the ideas of journeys and quests as a source of personal meaning recur.
So - have YOU ever been on a journey, quest, or pilgrimage? Long and arduous, or personally meaningful? And what was it like?
― Tom, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― katie, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― mark s, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― anthony, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― dave q, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Pete, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Bill, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Hypothesis two: that as discovery and conventient travel diminshes the scope of 'terral incognita', the utopia shifts from the spatial to the temporal plane (tho' this might also include other planets). Sorry, pointless aside. But does Tolkein create a new terra incognita, or is his landscape nostalgic construction of english pastoral? Have never read him, sorry.
Journey-as-quest: Best part of a journey for me = being temporarily outside time, life, plans. Physically moving forward, psychically slipping sideways.
Shackleton's voyage "ill-fated" as much because it failed in its noble quest* as the need for a hook to get people to watch, surely? Joy of the Endurance story is how it turns the heroic (and ultimately fatal, in Scott's case)journey inside out, turning quest into a hope of home via (for most of them) doing very little *except* endure, keep going, for long periods - the journey over the snow, the stay on Elephant Island? INteresting thing is shift from Scott (noble, 'heroic', self-sacrificing, fatal) to Shackleton as figure to know/care about. Shackleton for a long time set up as a chancer, quixotic and - worse - a swashbuckler and *entrepreneur* who saw opportunity for bucks in the trip (via the Hurley photos and the film 'South', which was strangely underwhelming when I finally got to see it). Sorry to hijack, Tom: I luv to talk Shackleton.
*I have forgotten even what he was supposed to be doing, which demonstrates either how little it matters to the Shackleton narrative or how useless both my geography and memory are.
― Ellie, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
i saw a biog of tom crean in waterstones last night: a phrase from (ponting's or cherry-garrard's) book on scott, the "lone march of tom crean" always jumps into my mind; i guess i will be buying this sooNoR
― helenfordsdale, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― james, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
although vancouver airport is quite a nice place to be.
― clive, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― DG, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
And what was it like?
Long and arduous, or personally meaningful? I've asked for it on DVD for xmas, if that's what you mean.
― Graham, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― nickn, Thursday, 20 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)