"Best" Neighborhood In Manhattan?

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mover, Saturday, 10 September 2005 04:07 (twenty years ago)

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hstencil (hstencil), Saturday, 10 September 2005 04:08 (twenty years ago)

Now, are you talking about Manhattan Kansas or Manhattan New York?

Shaker, Saturday, 10 September 2005 04:16 (twenty years ago)

Kinda depends on your sensibility, really. I mean, if you're a self-styled clove-smokin' boho, you'd probably opt for the East Village (though most of that set de-camped for Williamsburg eons ago). If you're an investment banker who needs to keep getting his trousers retailored because your back pocket cannot contain your bulging wallet, you'd probaby be more comfortable on the Upper East Side. If you enjoy kvetching about the Bush Administration, seek ye the Upper West Side (though that's certianly not limited to that stretch). If you're a media mogul, why not get a huge fuck-off loft in TriBeCa?

There's no undiscovered country, though, anymore. There aren't any more frontier neighborhoods waiting to be unearthed.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 10 September 2005 04:22 (twenty years ago)

One thing that's not maybe acknowledged enough is that there's an awful lot of in-between spaces in Manhattan that aren't really one place or another. Like where we live -- I call it the Lower Upper East Side, but it's basically a sort of badlands mishmash of restaurants, "Irish" pubs and Queensboro Bridge on- and off-ramps. But it's only 10 minutes to Central Park, a nice 40-minute walk to my office and also more affordable than anywhere that would more properly count as being part of a neighborhood. There's a lot of places like this, especially all through Midtown down to 14th Street, all jammed full of people.

But "best," I dunno. I'd probably take the East Village out of the places I know.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 10 September 2005 06:04 (twenty years ago)

There's a simillar no-man's land like that in the near-east 30's. Residential, but identity-less. Which, in the grand scheme of things, ain't so bad.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 10 September 2005 06:07 (twenty years ago)

I'll take Manhattan in a garbage bag with Latin written on it that says, "It's hard to give a shit these days."

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 10 September 2005 06:07 (twenty years ago)

There's no undiscovered country, though, anymore. There aren't any more frontier neighborhoods waiting to be unearthed.

ahem ... INWOOD!

(though it's REALLY inconvenient to get to/from)

Eisbär (llamasfur), Saturday, 10 September 2005 06:21 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, all that uptown stuff...I have friends in Washington Heights I visit now and then but damn. It's like going to Albany. (Of course, people downtown feel like that about where I live...)

Then again, I know people in Riverdale, which is like going to Vermont.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 10 September 2005 06:30 (twenty years ago)

inwood is hardly frontier.

CQD CQD SOS SOS CQD DE MGY MGY (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 10 September 2005 06:33 (twenty years ago)

i had hipster friends who were moving there ten years ago.

CQD CQD SOS SOS CQD DE MGY MGY (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 10 September 2005 06:34 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, well, and what qualifies as frontier? A higher ratio of Dunkin Donuts to Starbucks?

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 10 September 2005 06:38 (twenty years ago)

(which, btw, Dunkin Donuts has better coffee)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 10 September 2005 06:39 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Inwood's kinda old news by this point. And yeah, it's like getting to Alaska.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 10 September 2005 06:45 (twenty years ago)

dunkin donuts has way better coffee than starbucks.

CQD CQD SOS SOS CQD DE MGY MGY (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 10 September 2005 06:51 (twenty years ago)

Starbucks coffee always tastes kinda burnt to me.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 10 September 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)

That's because it is. It ships better that way.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 10 September 2005 06:59 (twenty years ago)

harlem is nice

ken c (ken c), Saturday, 10 September 2005 07:40 (twenty years ago)

hells kitchen, whats happenign w. that these days

anthony, Saturday, 10 September 2005 08:17 (twenty years ago)

Soho

57 7th (calstars), Saturday, 10 September 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

....if you like big outdoor malls and feel like dealing with Eurotrash fashionistas and tourists all the damn time.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 10 September 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

Dunkin' Donuts coffee always tastes kinda weak to me. I prefer Starbucks, though the obvious winner is neither of them.

Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 10 September 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

i'm sort of in love with my neighborhood. it's at the very bottom of the lower east side, but it's more like residential chinatown. close to the water and f train, a brief walk to chinatown/les/little italy, bridges, more. a few local bars, and all the chinese bakeries i can stand, a laundry place that stays open til 10, so i can drop my laundry after work and pick it up later that night. and the street names get crazy down here, so it feels a bit uncharted.

carly (carly), Saturday, 10 September 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

Soho, barring a nice block or two, is without question the worst neighborhood in Manhattan.

I've become convinced that the Upper East Side in and around Lenox Hill really is one of the best neighborhoods, and no longer feel so warmly about the UWS. Also contending, on my map:
- much of the UWS between ~72nd-82nd, and Lincoln Square east to the Park
- the parts of Noho/East Village/Gramercy that are walkable from Union Square with bags of groceries and without dodging too many crowds
- Morningside Heights and a fair chunk of the area between there and the UWS
- Tribeca/West Coast (maybe even post-9/11 BPC?), especially for the more family-oriented
- Carnegie Hill, same
- the Northwest Village (around Arbingdon Sq)
- NoLita

I call it the Lower Upper East Side

I don't have a name for it, but think of it largely as faded from its swinging 70s-early 80s heyday. Notice how there are singles bars here that cater especially to people of a certain age. That said, there are some very nice parts, an increasing number of good restaurants, and it does seem that more younger people are living here.

There's a simillar no-man's land like that in the near-east 30's. Residential, but identity-less.

well, it's not often identified by outsiders, but it is Kips Bay. and it too is starting to pick up. In fact...

There aren't any more frontier neighborhoods waiting to be unearthed.

arguably, there is one in what might become Lower Kips Bay - the far east area in the higher 20s that is largely dominated by (primarily medical) institutions, but is seen as a potential new neighborhood. also, the neighborhood that may be created in the Hudson Yards (North Chelsea?), and lots of residential filling-in South along the Hudson that may follow. how far south can they extend the 7 train? also, unearthed by whom? see, ahem, the Bowery.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 10 September 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

ok, Soho might be better than Herald Square

gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 10 September 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

fuck you dunkin donuts hater

Fushigina Blobby: Blobania no Kiki (ex machina), Saturday, 10 September 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

I justmoved to north kensington/south prospect park a littl ways off the Ft. Hamilton stop on the F-train... It's not too convenient, but das price is right... If I had my druthers, I'd move somewhere east of 2nd Ave, west of Ave. B, north of Delancey, and south of 11th st. I lived on Ave A and 3rd this summer and loved it.

Soho isn't all that bad. I have a friend that has a reasonably priced place on spring and sullivan, and I wouldn't mind living there... I looked at a couple places in west harlem. I wouldn't mind living there, either.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Sunday, 11 September 2005 02:30 (twenty years ago)

Sullivan is maybe the exception

gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 11 September 2005 02:39 (twenty years ago)

Kips bay gets my vote for the worst. I doubt there's a neighborhood in manhattan with less character. Of course, some probably consider that a plus.

If I had unlimited money, I'd live in the far west village, on greenwich or washington.

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Sunday, 11 September 2005 23:59 (twenty years ago)

I justmoved to north kensington/south prospect park a littl ways off the Ft. Hamilton stop on the F-train...

i really like that area.

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 12 September 2005 00:54 (twenty years ago)

If I had unlimited money, I'd live in the far west village, on greenwich or washington.

my west village pick would be up by where the new school is.

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 12 September 2005 00:57 (twenty years ago)

my west village pick would be up by where the new school is.

That's still considered Greenwich Village, though, I believe. I don't think the "West Village" is applied until west of 6th Ave (the New School being between 5th and 6th).

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 12 September 2005 01:37 (twenty years ago)

wikipedia says "greenwich village" and "the west village" are synonymous.

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 12 September 2005 02:21 (twenty years ago)

i would say that "west" = west of 5th ave.

s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 12 September 2005 02:24 (twenty years ago)

eleven years pass...

apparently max is accepting bullshit realtor nabe boders? sad!

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inspiring: the first thing new yorkers did after the explosion in chelsea was call loved ones to say "actually, 23rd and 6th isnt chelsea"

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@petersterne @max_read um full of shit it's fucking Chelsea

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 18 September 2016 13:31 (nine years ago)

omg someone in the gay bar, a regular stranger, was REPEATING max's tweet

The Hon. J. Piedmont Mumblethunder (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 September 2016 01:52 (nine years ago)

Maybe the corner of 23rd and 6th isn't really Chelsea, it's kind of a generic interzone, but 23rd between 6th and 7th is.

o. nate, Monday, 19 September 2016 01:56 (nine years ago)

the best is betw 90th and 115th, between amsterdam and riverside park, btw

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 19 September 2016 01:56 (nine years ago)

*adjusts ascot* twas the Ladies Mile back in the day

salthigh, Monday, 19 September 2016 02:11 (nine years ago)

Nobody was anal about neighborhoods before google maps

, Monday, 19 September 2016 02:33 (nine years ago)


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