ITV's 50 Greatest Shows Ever

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Unsurprising - three Ant and Dec programmes in the top ten - but there doesn't seem to be a thread for it anywhere so now one exists.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 12 September 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)

Corrie won, fair enough.

I guess the more interesting stuff was at positions 50-32 or thereabouts.

What did they say about the Prisoner?

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 12 September 2005 09:34 (twenty years ago)

Have we had an ILX best TV shows ever poll yet???

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 12 September 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)

(xpost)

Not very much. Angus Deayton opined that it went "a bit unhinged" in its final episodes. The only other talking head they had was George Baker who played the second Number 2 (don't ask!) in the pilot episode, but he was quite interesting apropos "the prison of the mind" and making comparisons with Ibsen and Beckett.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 12 September 2005 09:36 (twenty years ago)

Oh lord, "ITV"'s greatest shows ? No wonder this list is so fucking lame.

Ste (Fuzzy), Monday, 12 September 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

Barrymore well and truly whitewashed out of ITV history, then...

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 12 September 2005 09:41 (twenty years ago)

And of course when Opportunity Knocks came up it was all innocuous stuff about Les Dawson, Lena Zavaroni etc. and nothing about the thing that everyone remembers most about the prog, i.e. Hughie Green's mentalist "Stand Up And Be Counted" spiel.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 12 September 2005 09:42 (twenty years ago)

Poor show for Blind Date considering it's ratings at it's peak.

Where the fuck is Crossroads?

Including The Muppet Show seems rather audacious. I remember it being on BBC (ditto Kenny Everett), but more importantly everything else is British so it seems an unjust anamoly. Where is Home & Away? The A-Team?

Sitcoms are noticeably few in the list, understandably for ITV.

Shows I would like to have seen in the 50:

The Chart Show
Get Stuffed!
Interceptor
Bad Influence
Play Your Cards Right
Strike It Lucky (WHAT IS A HOTSPOT NOT?)
Knightmare
1992...Forever! (and other ...Forever episodes)
Fresh Fields
Mr Bean (ok just the first two)
Shafted
Friday/Saturday Night Live
Hale & Pace (you'll laugh at any old crap when you're 11)
The New Statesman (see above)
SM:TV
New Faces (I was enthralled by the electronic 'Spaghetti Junction' scoreboard at the time)

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 12 September 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

Have we had an ILX best TV shows ever poll yet???

I really want to do one - maybe nearer Christmas?

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 12 September 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

Wasn't Friday/Saturday Night Live on C4?

Then again, if you excluded the Muppets I guess you'd also have to exclude The Prisoner - both Lew Grade/ITC productions made in Britain but written, produced and directed by Americans.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 12 September 2005 09:51 (twenty years ago)

Then again, The Prisoner was conspicuously the only one of those ITC biscuit-cutter melodramas to make it to the list - of Randall and Hopkirk (Deceased), Department S/Jason King, The Persuaders, Danger Man, The Saint, Man In A Suitcase etc. etc., nary a sign.

Oh yes - and where was Thunderbirds?

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 12 September 2005 09:52 (twenty years ago)

The Muppets was ATV at the time.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)

Have we had an ILX best TV shows ever poll yet???

I think this is a really good idea, but it needs to be done with the same militaristic organisation as the "Singles of the 00s" poll, not some of these Johnny Come Lately polls.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

ATV/ITC - same thing - Grade ran them both. ITC was the "international" wing of ATV which ran aground fairly sharpish following legendarily dud Raise The Titanic caper.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:18 (twenty years ago)

Chart Show YES. And Bad Girls not even shortlisted, yet WiVe$$$$ was, bloody tsk.

Alex in Sheffield (Alex in Doncaster), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)

Rest assured Dom if/when I do it there would be all kinds of constrictive criteria employed. This would include banning The Simpsons as it would obv. win by a mile. It would be interesting to see what would end up first in it's place though.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

Buffy.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:25 (twenty years ago)

That's what I suspect too.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

Futurama

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

nothing about the thing that everyone remembers most about the prog, i.e. Hughie Green's mentalist "Stand Up And Be Counted" spiel

That and him nobbing Paula Yates' mum.

I Oppose All Rock and Roll (noodle vague), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

The real reason I want to do a TV poll is not so much to see the results (fairly predictable as the top 20 probably would be), but to see certain people on ILE write really long thoughtful pieces on the programmes.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)

mark s pwns writing on buffy

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

the muppets must've been broadcast on ITV originally - my dad taped the mark hammill one for me when i was tiny, and i remember the tape fzzzing for a bit when it would wind over where he paused for the ad break.

and while the production crew for the muppets was mostly american, i believe it *was shot in the UK, and considered a british show. there are perhaps apocryphal tales of the muppets operators smuggling drugs through transatlantic customs in hidden compartments inside kermit, piggy, fozzy et al.

foxy boxer (stevie), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)

I like to think of the Muppet Show as the second greatest TV show of all time personally.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

would be interesting to see what would end up first in it's place though.

Day Today surely, assuming it doesn't lose votes in a Brasseye/Day Today split.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Monday, 12 September 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)

xpost

The Muppet Show was definitely shot in the UK. I have a friend who danced with Gene Kelly during the shooting of his Muppet Show (she was 4 and had been sneaked on set by her dad, who was one of the cameramen and British)

The main missing programmes for me (apart from the ITC ones that Marcello rightly pointed out) was some of their better kids programmes: Dangermouse, Count Duckula, The Tomorrow People, Catweazle etc.

Guilty Boksen (Bro_Danielson), Monday, 12 September 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

Wot no TISWAS mention yet.

Dave B (daveb), Monday, 12 September 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)

TISWAS was #20 in the list.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 12 September 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)

Sally James in 2005 = my current Crush of Shame.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Monday, 12 September 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)

Locked?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 12 September 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

"Buffy" winning? I'd be delighted if it happened, but I don't think it would - the Buffy massive is *mostly* old sk00l ILX and not all that gigantic when you think of it, plus a lot of the most notorious fans don't tend to vote in these polls (I could imagine it gaining the most #1 votes from individual lists, though.)

"Day Today"/"Brass Eye" not a safe bet either, I'd think - giant consensus amongst brit ILX0rs, sure, but not that well known outside of the UK, for obvious reasons. Haha, mind you, I imagine that if all of ILX were to watch a few eps of either show most everyone would probably love it.

I imagine "Dr.Who" would garner similiar levels of brit consensus, and probably take in quite a lot more non-Uk voters, too!

"Simpsons" could very well win - which would be kinda meh, but there are worse shows.

"Futurama", "South Park", "Newsradio" = all shows with solid, very vocal cult followings around here; top20, top10?

"Monty Python's Flying Circus" and "Twin Peaks" in the top ten? They better be.

What would really interest me, tho, is how older shows would fare. "All In The Family", "The Avengers", "Get Smart", "Twilight Zone" etc.

(Yeah, I've thought about this a lot. I've actually been meaning to suggest this poll for a few months now, but have always been too intimidated to actually step up and take up the vote-counting responsibilities.)

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 12 September 2005 23:28 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
So, is anyone up for doing a "greatest tv shows ever" poll/thread then?

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

my only concern is that not enough people would vote or contribute re extensive commentary (which i'm just as keen on reading as the actual list).

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 4 November 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

Alternatively, people can just list their "Desert Island Television" choices as per this webpage:

http://www.petford.net/kaleidoscope/desert-island-television.html

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

is that Nathan Cooke guy taking the piss re Jupiter Moon and Star Cops??

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

I believe that Nathan runs the Jupiter Moon fan club.


Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

I'm genuinely interested in this. What would people's criteria be?

Ben Mott (Ben Mott), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

ha ha Jupiter Moon. Star Cops as "A bit of a forerunner to Jupiter Moon" because of the production team?? madness. A bit like saying Art Attack was a forerunner of Inspector Morse because they had that Ken Morse on rostrum camera and thingy Lloyd Pack as set manager. Jupiter Moon WRITING and SETS and MONEY were total rub. Star Cops was proper telly.

Where is Kinvig, then eh???

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)

Ohmigod, Kinvig! That was my favourite programme when I was about 8.

ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)

thirteen years pass...

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/mar/20/lorraine-kelly-theatrical-artist-tax-tribunal-judge-rules?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

The breakfast TV presenter Lorraine Kelly is performing the role โ€œof a friendly, chatty and fun personalityโ€ when she appears on ITV each morning and not simply appearing as herself, a tax tribunal judge has ruled.

calzino, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 23:02 (six years ago)

one year passes...

Nah, YOUโ€™RE obsessed with what the guy who played PC Reg Hollis in The Bill is up to these days. pic.twitter.com/9mV1MxJb14

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calzino, Sunday, 27 September 2020 20:38 (five years ago)


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