Defend the indefensible - Thomas Kinkade

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Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 12 September 2005 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

I actually kind of like the fact that he's making people who otherwise would have no use for art of any kind aware that there is contemporary painting, and even more so attepting to make painting into something like a mass medium that could have the kind of cultural significance that pop music or TV do. If only the stuff he was using to do it wasn't so fucking trite and godawful.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 12 September 2005 23:28 (nineteen years ago)

Defense: he's got a great scam going.

President Busch (dr g), Monday, 12 September 2005 23:33 (nineteen years ago)

Painter of Shite

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Monday, 12 September 2005 23:49 (nineteen years ago)

I think my mother hates him more than she hates the president

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Monday, 12 September 2005 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

"he's got a great scam going."

Certainly true, but I still think possibly there might be an unintended good effect that comes from the scam.

Maybe.

Kinda.

Probably not.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 12 September 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago)

It's definitely a great scam. You can buy a print for X$, then you can have a Kinkade-approved painter add "additional highlights" for XX$. Or, you can buy one "enhanced" by Kinkade himself for XX+$ and it will be signed with a DNA matrixed (i.e. blood or something) signature. And what other artist art personality going has approved the design of an entire gated community?

Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 12 September 2005 23:58 (nineteen years ago)

On a plane I once chatted with a "Thomas Kinkade Highlight Artist"; he said that he flew all over the country for one-day highlighting sessions, where people queued up and paid untold sums for twenty minutes of Kinkade-approved paint-dabbing by him. He seemed like a very nice man, and agreed that it was a sweet, sweet gig.

I'd never heard of Kinkade, but my prairie relatives reacted like I'd shaken hands with Elvis' personal syringe-filler.

Stephen X (Stephen X), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 01:21 (nineteen years ago)

Trite trite trite banal kitschy. Ugh.

Jaq, I've read about that community that he designed- it's in CA, right? It sounds so weird.

lyra (lyra), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

That's not art, it's paint by numbres for chissakes!

Wiggy (Wiggy), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

Rockist!

(tee hee!)

pr00de, where's my car? (pr00de), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 01:33 (nineteen years ago)

that community that he designed

Yeah, something like "Kinderbrooke", outside SF I think.

(post-google) - It's Hiddenbrooke, here's a Salon article: http://www.salon.com/mwt/style/2002/03/18/kinkade_village/

I did some work for a guy who collected Kinkade - it was very unnerving to be in their house with all those light-filled pieces.

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 01:58 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.register123.com/event/accounts/register123/disney/disneyland/events/kinkade2005/kinkade1.jpg

Event: Disneyland 50th Anniversary Product Release & Signing with Thomas Kinkade
Event Date: Saturday, September 10, 2005
Event Time: 3:30 p.m. to 6:00 p.m.
Location: The Disney Gallery, New Orleans Square, DisneylandÒ park

Event Information:
As part of our Disneyland® Resort 50th Anniversary Celebration, we are honored to unveil a breathtaking rendering of our transformed Sleeping Beauty Castle by famed “Painter of Light,”TM Thomas Kinkade. One of the most collected and beloved artists of our day, Thomas Kinkade emphasizes simple pleasures and inspirational messages through his paintings. Disney and Thomas Kinkade collectors alike will be enchanted and engaged by the luminous light and tranquil mood of this delightful release: Disneyland 50th Anniversary.

Limit TWO (2) Disneyland 50th Anniversary items per Guest. Special Guest Artist will only sign their respective item. We ask that you bring no personal items to be signed.

President Busch (dr g), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:14 (nineteen years ago)

In his defense, he meekly calls himself "America's most collected living artist". I think of his stuff as modern day Norman Rockwell. Only with fewer puppies.

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

"Art is meant to disturb" - Georges Braque

I find that Disney thing very disturbing. Also the DNA signature business; that is very ick.

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:27 (nineteen years ago)

I think of his stuff as modern day Norman Rockwell. Only with fewer puppies.

and more garish color schemes? i find his work looks very similar to a lot of fantasy art style-wise. if it weren't for the dull subject matter, he'd be airbrushed on the side of every other ford van. his "collectors" should share the blame equally.

amon (eman), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:31 (nineteen years ago)

me and Beth were wandering around Palm Springs about midnight and came upon a Kinkade shop, with a lit painting in the window of a birds-view of lower Manhatten, with a huge billowing American flag in the foreground, like a birthday cake that Miss America was about to burst out of. It was so shamelessly patriotic, and the sugary colors so fetching, I couldn't decide what I felt-- a mixture of disgust, longing (or something), giggles, and wanting to smash the window. It uccurs to me now that he and Jeff Koons are like soul brothers of kitsch-- one is commenting on it, the other embodies it. Two sides of the same coin. Kinkade is heads to Koons tail.

donald nitchie (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

Perhaps this is because Kinkade did not actually design the homes himself -- instead, he licensed his name and artistic sensibilities to a development firm called Taylor Woodrow, which designed the homes but submitted all plans to Kinkade for approval. (Kinkade has declined to comment on Hiddenbrooke, and referred calls about the homes to the developer.)

amon (eman), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

Like many people of faith, I have often contemplated the glories of heaven. Christ said he would prepare a mansion for us - could he also prepare a divine garden setting where in we might pursue a recreational game or two? (Or two or three thousand?)

Imagine the possibilities: not a care to interrupt the stroll through the verdant grounds, not a deadline to interfere, not an interruption to beckon. Bliss, pure and simple, and a fragrant walk through the morning light as one pursues the perfect round.

-See you on the links! Thomas Kinkade

President Busch (dr g), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

"Painter of Pies In the Sky"

amon (eman), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:40 (nineteen years ago)

airbrushed on the side of every other ford van

I know I've seen Kinkade-like scenes on several RVs on the freeway.

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

he's completely indefensible

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:45 (nineteen years ago)

he makes the whaling wall guy look good. sort of.

mookieproof (mookieproof), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:45 (nineteen years ago)

I saw a John Currin retrospective once and kept thinking of Kinkade, some of Currin's women were luminous like that I guess.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:46 (nineteen years ago)

from one trend to another

President Busch (dr g), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:47 (nineteen years ago)

FWIW, I don't like Currin either, but for very different reasons. Or maybe not so different. Currin really seems to despise and condescend to his subjects; Kinkade appears to sympathize with them, but his subjects are the same as his audience (or at least I suspect that his audience imagines so) but in fact he's just taking them for all that he can.

Hmmm...

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:49 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.dandb.org/ezimagecatalogue/catalogue/variations/16-305x305.jpg

I actually kind of like the fact that he's making people who otherwise would have no use for art of any kind aware that there is contemporary painting, and even more so attepting to make painting into something like a mass medium that could have the kind of cultural significance that pop music or TV do. If only the stuff he was using to do it wasn't so fucking trite and godawful.

President Busch (dr g), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, I know that Kinkade seldom does figures, but his landscapes seem to invite identification by the viewer. Isn't that the point of them, that they represent some idealized place where the viewer is comforted and safe and at home?

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

Pres. Anheuser -

I think a lot of the people who like Kinkade would probably consider Warhol just a homo junkie scumbag. Not that the Kinkade audience is the only wider audience art could and should be pitched to, or that Warhol is (in the work you're referencing, at least) about as accessible as Kinkade is. The thing is, I think since Pop Art's heyday the art scene has become even more insular and less a mass medium than it was before. So in that sense, Pop Art failed and Kinkade seems to be the only one taking painting to the mainstream. I happen to give the mainstream a lot of credit in terms of what they can handle. I think the (previously) experimental techniques used in music video and film attest to that. Why not take GOOD art to the mainstream? When Andy Goldsworthy's show came here to Austin last spring, I dragged as many people as I could to it, and every one of them loved it.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

The set design on Rivendell in the Peter Jackson movies looked like it was done by Kinkade.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 03:33 (nineteen years ago)

(Actually, Orlando Bloom in the Peter Jackson movies looked like he was done by Kinkade.)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 03:33 (nineteen years ago)

I think of his stuff as modern day Norman Rockwell. Only with fewer puppies.

This does a grave disservice to Rockwell!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 03:50 (nineteen years ago)

That's funny, gypsy mothra. One of the people I took to the Goldsworthy is a LOTR nut and said he kinda wished that the elf architecture in the movies was more like Goldsworthy's stuff.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 04:00 (nineteen years ago)

Vomitous.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 04:56 (nineteen years ago)

I think my mother hates him more than she hates the president
Mine too! AND Currin also is Marked for Death by Mom. We've had endless debates over it. I just think it's kicky that an "artist" OF ANY KIND can make himself a household word. As if any of Kinkade's fans are going to buy my mother's weird paintings instead, in the event that the P of L is assassinated and all his paintings burned. I'm sure they're flame-retardant. Those people are never ever ever gonna go for anything else. The paintings reinforce their pot-of-gold-at-the-end-of-the-rainbow delusions. "Honey, this is our little cottage!!!" Fine. I just can't get worked up about it.
But I actually want that Disneyland painting! I guess I could replicate it, in a fashion. Actually, everyone on this thread should paint a Thomas Kinkade painting!!!
C'mon, folks! Get cracking!

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

Sniffle - I don't have a place to do oil painting right now. Maybe I could do it in prismacolor.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

I think a lot of the people who like Kinkade would probably consider Warhol just a homo junkie scumbag.

Kinkade yaoi, now there's a whole new market. I like the Disneyland picture, I confess, partly because it's the best giggly kitsch ever, partly because it really does exhibit what "Disneyland" signifies to many Americans in the 20th/1st century, partly because it looks like an Alma-Tadema painting (whom I love for his giggly kitsch).

Paul Ess (Paul Ess), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

To hate the Disneyland picture is to hate LIFE!!!!
Maybe I could do it in prismacolor.
I think a wide variety of media should be encouraged. It's funny, I did a series of paintings of little shacks, most of them nightscapes, with lots of multicolored stars and smudges and reflections, and sometimes even flowers. They don't look like Kinkades, my painting is a little too brutish. I could push them into Kinkadism if I just took a little more care, but I'm a slob. Beth Parker, Painter of Blight.

Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

Aaaaaaaaah! Thomas Kinkade on QVC is one of the most terrifying and entertaining ways of spending an hour you could wish for.

Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

Serious question: what is BAD about Kinkade?

I admire Kinkade on a conceptual level, on the level where what he's doing becomes pure modern art. You may argue that this is accidental, that's he's not self-aware, but I don't see how it COULDN'T be self-aware. He's the bastard son of PT Barnum and Andy Warhol. And actually Warhol is the perfec comparison: an emphasis on flash over depth, the use of multiple prints that are only different enough to make them "unique," the creation of a place that identifies with his artistic vision (TS: Hiddenbrooke vs. the Factory), etc.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

For me it's the gooey sentiment and the smug 'I'm special'-ness that seem to permeate his (and his fans') worldview that make him so bad and hated. Although as I mentioned upthread, I'm suspicious that he's cynically pulling one over on his customer base.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

How is he pulling one over on his customers? Most likely, they are looking for: a) art that they enjoy looking at, and/or b) art that is an "investment." They presumably are getting both when they buy a Kinkade piece.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

I love him in a Salute to PT Barnum kind of way. I wish I had that idea first.

when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

n/a -

Well, I meant in the sense that he's just 'giving the suckers what they want' and not neccesarily painting what he'd like to do most. You know, that he wants most is their money, not to paint gloopy scenes of candle-lit cottages in snowy forests.

But on the subject of b) I doubt very much that his paintings will continue to be good investments. There are simply too many of them and they're too much alike. What we've got here is a speculative bubble based on fiendishly clever marketing.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Kinkade doesn't seem to have much in common w/ Warhol at all (ie i think we're still waiting for Kinkaid's death row or car crash pics)

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

It's beanie babies for the "art" world. I find TK disgusting. It's taking manufactured art to a new level & it feeds on consumer consumption. although, if they're stupid enough to buy it, so be it. TK has never come off as genuine to me & I presume that a lot of his fans think he is. I also hate idyllic life in easter colors.

I don't think that the Warhol comparison is totally fair. Warhol was smarter about his art in a different way. TK comes off as a business more than an artist. He uses gimmicks to increase value & sell more crap. Warhol seems to me more like a running commentary.

kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

All the xtian kitsch and patriotic schtick that's marketed under his brand is more insidious than the large-scale paintings, IMO. So his stuff is fluffy and froufrou and twee and mass-produced - his followers want that, for now. Not much different from R.C. Gorman, or Bev Doolittle, or Patrick Nagel. But the onslaught of furniture, shower curtains, calendars, knick-knacks, screensavers, etc. all in the name of making his "vision" affordable for the masses is a bit much.

Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

How come no one understands "DEFEND THE INDEFENSIBLE" threads but me?

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

Note that a Patrick Nagel/Kinkade collaboration would be the end-all/be-all.

also, my parents buy the Kinkade.

and they buy books advertised on the radio.

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

He has a luxurious moustache?

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

is there good writing on kinkade that isn't hand-wringy and terrible like 100% of this thread?

― Fook Lee (Matt P), Thursday, April 12, 2012 1:11 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=OZIiVvxIuBEC&pg=PA215&dq=the+artist+in+the+mall&hl=en&sa=X&ei=446GT4vmA6Of0QXh4om5Bw&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

EDB, Thursday, 12 April 2012 08:15 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2012/04/10/art-entertainment/from-our-archives-thomas-kinkades-american-dream.html

the hairy office thing (Eazy), Thursday, 12 April 2012 13:35 (thirteen years ago)

I wonder how TK decorated his own house -- that might be interesting. He seemed pretty obsessed with Disney stuff.

I will transmit this information to (Viceroy), Thursday, 12 April 2012 14:28 (thirteen years ago)

a lotta jp witkin i heard

boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 12 April 2012 14:33 (thirteen years ago)

^mashup that needs to happen

tales from endoscopic oceans (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 12 April 2012 15:07 (thirteen years ago)

-American Artist Thomas Kinkade
-Macular Degeneration

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 12 April 2012 18:27 (thirteen years ago)

ah the "i was drunk" defence

Ò (Ówen P.), Saturday, 14 April 2012 00:56 (thirteen years ago)

His brother blames all those mean critics for T. Kinkade's turning alcoholic. What other explanation could there be?

Aimless, Saturday, 14 April 2012 01:46 (thirteen years ago)

ah the "i was drunk" defence

― Ò (Ówen P.), Friday, April 13, 2012 5:56 PM (50 minutes ago)

I'm going to not read this article. I choose assume booze was his defense for painting so goddamn much light.

does Red Stripe work like poppers? (Abbbottt), Saturday, 14 April 2012 01:47 (thirteen years ago)

it's pretty smart to bet someone that you can do something in your lifetime, because if you fail, how are they going to collect?

― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, April 11, 2012 5:30 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^ real talk

A Little Princess btw (s1ocki), Saturday, 14 April 2012 01:50 (thirteen years ago)

i like to think susan orlean is hounding his estate right now

goole, Saturday, 14 April 2012 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

O'Toole kept living

Hardcore lolz here, Abbbottt. You're a treasure.

I actually showed Thomas Kinkade's Christmas Cottage in class and O'Toole's performance inspired a student to diagnose a new ailment: Humpty Dumpty Dementia.

But did you know there's another Kinkade movie? It's called Christmas Lodge and seems a correction of Cottage. If you look at the IMDb and Amazon reviews of the latter, then you'll discover that many Kinkadians were upset at all the swears and an attempted dad/son crotch grab. Lodge contains amped Jesus content and no swears. Also no respected actors to keep on living after their star turns here. Can you dig it?

Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, 15 April 2012 00:33 (thirteen years ago)

I haven't seen TKCC (as the kids call it) but LOL @ Chris Elliot's wig in the trailer

I cannot host as my wife hates Walker (latebloomer), Sunday, 15 April 2012 00:39 (thirteen years ago)

Sorry, I just now noticed the request to comment.

I don't think the Kinkade industry has anything to do with art or technique; I think it has to do with selling an elaborate, porned out certificate of happiness and achievement to what is left of the middle class.

Dan Lacey, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 04:40 (thirteen years ago)

dude will you make me one of those certificates? will pay up to $59.95+s&h

raw feel vegan (silby), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 04:41 (thirteen years ago)

I have one on ebay for $100. If you purchase it, I will add a squirrel in the foreground so adhered in syrup it can't move.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261002696878?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_3464wt_883

Dan Lacey, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 04:44 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QWeyn8uoZg

I wish to be DINOSAUR SOLDIER again...and for EVERY WEAPON (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 13:22 (thirteen years ago)

Wld kill to see Peter O'Toole entreat Lacey to PAINT THE PANCAKES, DAN!

Dale, dale, dale (Abbbottt), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:03 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.faithmouse.com/pancake_house_print_2.jpg

I wish to be DINOSAUR SOLDIER again...and for EVERY WEAPON (Austerity Ponies), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 14:08 (thirteen years ago)

Thomas Kinkade Cause Of Death: Painter Died Of Drug And Alcohol Overdose, Coroner Rules

Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 15:16 (thirteen years ago)

But, you know, for god.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 May 2012 15:22 (thirteen years ago)

anyway there's that benjamin essay art in the age of mechanical reproduction which I don't remember anything about, there are all those 'artists' cities in china where you can pay somebody like $50 to paint anything you want including a van gogh, it's pretty interesting, would post more about if I had a more coherent theory of art

― swaghand (dayo), Monday, April 9, 2012 11:43 PM (2 days ago)

im p sure i read abt some artbros paying these guys to do ersatz miros and ingreses and then the westerners added magic touches of their own, kinda like kinkade via chapmans

tho i might have imagined this

― The term “hipster racism” from Carmen Van Kerckhove at Racialicious (nakhchivan), Wednesday, April 11, 2012 4:13 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There's a John Baldessari piece I remember from the Met retrospective where he basically hired a few sort of ordinary landscape-type painters who sold their paintings at a local fair and got them to paint from photographs he had taken. The result was very well-painted and very contemporary-looking paintings -- of course Baldessari had chosen the composition, but the technique was as good as anything you'd expect to see from the latest hot young painter.

Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 15:24 (thirteen years ago)

Description and example here:

http://www.thelmagazine.com/newyork/achieving-pure-baldessari-at-the-met/Content?oid=1794006

Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 15:27 (thirteen years ago)

v cool. Done in 1969.

a la bouquet marmoset (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 15:35 (thirteen years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/xav6H.png

dayo, Thursday, 17 May 2012 19:32 (thirteen years ago)

three months pass...

Thomas Kinkade's real home, currently held hostage by girlfriend. If you like real estate drama...

โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Italo Night at Some Gay Club (Mount Cleaners), Monday, 20 August 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago)

awesome

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 August 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago)

one year passes...
three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhuwkBfGKwQ

PSY talks The Nut Job (forksclovetofu), Friday, 28 February 2014 17:01 (eleven years ago)

three years pass...

Or, you can buy one "enhanced" by Kinkade himself for XX+$ and it will be signed with a DNA matrixed (i.e. blood or something) signature.
― Jaq (Jaq), Monday, September 12, 2005 7:58 PM (twelve years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

goth as fuk

treeship 2, Saturday, 30 December 2017 06:21 (seven years ago)

Dollop episode about him is a good one, for you comedy podcast enjoyers https://castro.fm/episode/YZfxQt

The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Saturday, 30 December 2017 06:44 (seven years ago)

seven months pass...

Imagine being so rich you can commission "The Painter of Light" himself to render your mansion in a painting. pic.twitter.com/oHWStEBu0i

— Amiebea (@Amiebea) August 7, 2018

betsy de vos's summer house

mookieproof, Thursday, 9 August 2018 00:06 (six years ago)

makes it look like even more of a damn clown house

call all destroyer, Thursday, 9 August 2018 00:12 (six years ago)

fake river!

mookieproof, Thursday, 9 August 2018 00:12 (six years ago)

Looks ripped from McMansion Hell

faculty w1fe (silby), Thursday, 9 August 2018 00:15 (six years ago)

well . . . yes

https://www.vox.com/first-person/2018/8/6/17654434/betsy-devos-yacht-mcmansion-hell

mookieproof, Thursday, 9 August 2018 00:32 (six years ago)

one year passes...

Ahead of his time! Thomas Kinkade Once Painted a Roll of Toilet Paper.

https://robbreport.com/shelter/art-collectibles/thomas-kincade-toilet-paper-painting-print-covid-2912759/

nickn, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 20:13 (five years ago)

four years pass...

Looks like he's finally getting a documentary, thank god

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2025/mar/25/thomas-kinkade-documentary

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 26 March 2025 21:48 (three months ago)

dude was mostly just a fucked-up grifter imo?
idk that i’d watch a doc about him but ymmvv

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 26 March 2025 23:02 (three months ago)

That actually sounds like a reason to watch

Crack's Addition (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 26 March 2025 23:03 (three months ago)

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/unseen-thomas-kinkade-paintings-documentary-2622338

Even a 2008 biopic featuring Peter O’Toole and Marcia Gay Harden couldn’t redeem him; it went straight to video.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 26 March 2025 23:13 (three months ago)

the dollop podcast did an episode on him: i recommend listening to that to get caught up on this dude’s bullshit

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 26 March 2025 23:44 (three months ago)

that toilet paper painting is the best painting of his i have seen. it seems like something made by a high schooler trying to imitate giorgrio morandi.

treeship., Thursday, 27 March 2025 01:14 (three months ago)

i don't like his paintings but i find that kind of art inoffensive in jigsaw puzzles, casual video games, cozy mystery book covers, etc.

for a guy who drew a lot of houses he could have learned more about architecture and design. he didn't draw roofs good.

adam t (dat), Friday, 28 March 2025 09:43 (three months ago)

It's sad he died before AI became a thing. A lot of his paintings look like AI and I imagine he wouldn't have hesitated to use the medium to increase his productivity.

I was struck by this heartwarming tribute:
https://i.redd.it/95uycadj89wb1.jpg

Ashley Pomeroy, Friday, 28 March 2025 13:36 (three months ago)

Blows my mind that james gurney and kinkaid were buddies

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 28 March 2025 13:52 (three months ago)

i was watching a video by Solar Sands, who did that video on Thomas Kinkade, "the most hated artist you probably recognize"... they've got a follow-up on Jeff Koons, "the most hated 'sculptor' you probably recognize". it's mostly them personally trying to figure out how they feel about koons' work and koons himself. they talk a little bit about koons vs. kinkade and koons vs. paul mccarthy.

i don't really have any strong opinions on jeff koons one way or another, i guess. he reminds me a little bit of rick rubin, just without the beard.

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 28 March 2025 16:01 (three months ago)

Matt Zoller Seitz on the documentary:

https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/art-for-everybody-thomas-kinkade-documentary-film-review-2025

Ned Raggett, Friday, 28 March 2025 17:42 (three months ago)

i don't really have any strong opinions on jeff koons one way or another

the stuff with Cicciolina is pretty cringe and has not aged well

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 28 March 2025 18:17 (three months ago)


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