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sexuailty and its moral implications in pop and neo pop art .

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my christmas essay topic . i have no idea where to go w. it , any thoughts ?

― anthony, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

What artists/works are you looking at?

― ducklingmonster, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

koons
made in heaven warhol
sex parts and the screen tests
wesselman
the great american nude series
jasper johns
targets
i think i may do a biographical analysis.

― anthony, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Read this thing on Warhol sexuality yesterday. Might interest you: http://www.globebooks.com/servlet/GIS.Servlets.GAMArticleHTML Template?tf=book/review/AP/fullStory-BookReview&cf=book/revie w/AP/config-neutral&slug=BKANDY&date=20011208 that link looks crazy but it might work. I did an esay on the targets but all details have left my brain. Probably moments after I wrote it. Something about American poets and Saint Sebastian. I like the way you can talk for ages about the iconography of the targets.

― ducklingmonster, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

So do you think the sexuality is an overt quality in pop and neo pop art? I dont see Warhol as asexual as I have sometimes heard people say. The same with the targets.

― ducklingmonster, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i wanted to mention how all of them seem deeply moral works , or at least works w. a signifigant and often conserative sexual undertones . I esp. want to talk about the target with the green cock ( was that 57 or 61). ITs just that i dont seem to have a signifgant bead on it , its sputtering.

― anthony, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh yes talking about them as deeply moral will work well. Maybe you could tie it into there baroque-ness.

― ducklingmonster, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

its interesting because people think pop art is ironic and cold and unfeeling or loud and brash and decadent , they forget the moral subtext. yr inclusion of the "baroque" interests me , can you tell me more.

― anthony, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I guess I was thinking of pop and neo pop art as comparable to Baroque as 17th-18 century European art movement and then using the key notes of that movement in a descriptive sense. The features I would pick out would be: Idealised nude forms, sexual explicit images that are generally seen as beautiful non-challenging, implications of wealth and privilege, a detachment from real life, analogical (particularly in drawing from poetry), art stars, sense of playfulness. Im kinda rambling now but I think there is definitely something there. In saying baroque I think you can take on ironic, loud and brash and decadent and perhaps cold and unfeeling because it also means unreal.

― ducklingmonster, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

its a really clever and worthwhile analogy but how does it work w. morality.

― anthony, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Is it true that in Europe we tie sex and death more than in the States? I have been thinking about it. Maybe I just need to do a googlesearch or order a book on it. I do think the person who stated this, could be right.

― helenfordsdale, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)

There is the sex and death thing in Hollywood but maybe that is more sex and violence. Yes sex n' violence for the States and sex n' death for Europe. In New Zealand we have anything 'n landscape - as long as its vaguely gothy.

― ducklingmonster, Friday, 21 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-three years ago)


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