i) New Jersey, where the entire state is a suburb of a city in another state.
ii) Missouri, which has a big city in it whose only claims to fame are a suckass song by Judy Garland and a big arch.
What US states do you think are rubbish?
― DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)
― The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)
― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)
that's where you get a place called omaha right? which sounds a bit like you're trying to say omghahahaha but choked on your own laughter.
― ken c (ken c), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:25 (twenty years ago)
― The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)
― sgs (sgs), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:31 (twenty years ago)
North Dakota is beautiful.
― supercub, Monday, 19 September 2005 11:34 (twenty years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)
― supercub, Monday, 19 September 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Monday, 19 September 2005 11:40 (twenty years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)
Arizona seems pretty rubbish, but I've never been there as well.
― supercub, Monday, 19 September 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)
(Except for the fact that Arkansas isn't pronounced anything like Kansas.)
― The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)
― RJG (RJG), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)
― supercub, Monday, 19 September 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)
― sgs (sgs), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)
― Keith C (lync0), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)
personally i love NJ though
of the ones that i have been to i think i would say delaware (though i have only been through), or NC or TN, both of which had things to recommend, but both of which also have a slightly stultifying feeling in comparison to others
― terry lennox. (gareth), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:55 (twenty years ago)
Is Connecticut pointless unless you're rich?
I should go to more states.
― Ally C (Ally C), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)
This applies to the SW part of the state in my experience, much less so to everywhere else.
― sgs (sgs), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)
"Ohio's coal-fired power plants spew more of the pollution that causes respiratory illness and premature death than plants in any other state, according to a report by an environmental group that analyzed federal records."
Congrats sgs!
― supercub, Monday, 19 September 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v328/JaredHarrisPhotoGallery/Movies/Happiness/happiness.jpg
― The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)
Rhode Island, however... why?
― The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)
― Ally C (Ally C), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)
Actually, come to think of it, that's a bloody good reason to destroy the place.
― The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)
― supercub, Monday, 19 September 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)
― The Brocade Fire (kate), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)
CT isnt bad either, nor NH. NJ has a southern part that saves it a little, but i dont think Delaware has ANY saving graces.
Ohio is better than delaware even.
― AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)
― sgs (sgs), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)
― carly (carly), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)
"JERSEY'S WHERE AMERICA'S AT!"
― DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)
― Keith C (lync0), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)
haha no sales tax!! further reinforcing my theory that the state was named after only fools and horses. (after they got sold some hooky goods by del)
― ken c (ken c), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)
Oh, and Gary is a shithole, in a sad way.
― supercub, Monday, 19 September 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)
xenakis taught there, which is pretty fucking cool.
― ken c (ken c), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)
rest of Indiana: birthplace of the Ku Klux Klan and Axyl Rose
Oklahoma and Nebraska tie for the most boring places I've been.
Pennsylvania is the most rubbish state in that much of the East Coast's garbage gets transported there and buried in landfills.
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)
You are barking mad. It's astonishing.
― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)
As someone raised in Minnesota from the age of 1 I am unnaturally compelled to mention Iowa. Also, my only interaction with Louisiana is watching my olderst brother linger in a coma in Shreveport for a month before dying so I've got a very specific personal reason for disliking that state.
― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)
― supercub, Monday, 19 September 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)
I do and I have.
Some other states that stink:
Indiana - Where imagination goes to die.
Florida - Totally fucked. All the worst american qualities on display. Flat, hot and humid. The beach is nice. The weirdness is a little fascinating.
Utah - An amazingly beautiful place overrun with a scourge of self-righteous boring-ass mormons.
Connecticut - Get an identity, show some self respect.
Mississippi - Swaaaaamp
Alabama - Swaaaaamp
South Carolina - Swaaaaamp
Texas - The BBQ is the best. Has some really lovely spots. But just think about how much better the world would be right now if it didn't exist.
― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)
sedona's nice
crosspost
― RJG (RJG), Monday, 19 September 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 19 September 2005 23:54 (twenty years ago)
― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 19 September 2005 23:54 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 19 September 2005 23:55 (twenty years ago)
If we could wall off anyone who votes for Tom De Lay and Dick Armey into this hypothetical area, I'd be all for glassing the fucker.
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 19 September 2005 23:57 (twenty years ago)
Oh man, the red clay. Near where I grew up, the railroad was cut through a red clay hill near the road instead of building over the hill. There were 60-foot sheer red clay cliffs. We'd go down to the tracks and pull up spikes to use as digging tools, and dig footholds and little perches in the cliffside. We ruined so many clothes...
― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)
The "states that offend our sensibilities" (such as Texas or Florida, in different ways) can't be the most rubbish, either. At least they make an imprint on your consciousness, obnoxious though it be.
No, for me what's rubbish is states that lack any kind of atmosphere, mystique, or otherwise distinctive identity - positive or negative. Places about which nothing in particular, or nothing much, can be said (this will only work up to a certain point, since even the consensus front-runners will have articulate defenders). Anyhow, for me the number one in this sense HAS to be Delaware. Yes, one can list certain noteworthy attributes, but altogether it adds up to: eh.
― Collardio Gelatinous (collardio), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:11 (twenty years ago)
― zach, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:14 (twenty years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:15 (twenty years ago)
― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:16 (twenty years ago)
You could say the same about driving through the urban areas of just about any major metropolitan area in the United States. Or any suburb.
― Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:19 (twenty years ago)
http://www.ecoland.ro/Webshots/Peisaje/Autumn%20Colors,%20White%20Mountains,%20New%20Hampshire.html
― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:20 (twenty years ago)
Physically, its a beautiful state, especially in autumn. Its relaxing and quiet, which I much prefer to loud and busy. Its also clean as hell and there's great local agricultural products there. Plus, cigarettes are cheap.
― Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)
Think of it this way: I can easily picture a film director saying to his producer: "I need to shoot this in Nebraska or some place like that" [or substitute Kansas, Oklahoma, etc]. "That's the atmosphere I'm looking for."
But can you see a director saying, "I need to shoot this in Delaware or some place like that....that's the atmosphere I'm looking for"? What would he even mean by that?
― Collardio Gelatinous (collardio), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:25 (twenty years ago)
― shookout (shookout), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:26 (twenty years ago)
nondescript, barren, exurban...
― s/c (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:27 (twenty years ago)
Exactly. Just think about how most movies located in a particular New England town can be shot (or are shot) in virtually any other town in the 6 states that make up the region. The midwest is no different.
(and there's plenty to do in the midwest for fun. you just can't expect that fun to come from foriegn films, raw food bars, or dive rock clubs with bands that want to badly be Bardo Pond sometimes.)
― Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:30 (twenty years ago)
― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:31 (twenty years ago)
― Collardio Gelatinous (collardio), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:33 (twenty years ago)
So why does Rhode Island need to exist? There's already Cape Cod and Connecticut. Or how about Vermont when there's New Hampshire? Oregon when there's Washington and Northern California? West Virginia when there's Kentucky, Tennessee, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Ohio?
― Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 01:05 (twenty years ago)
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 01:06 (twenty years ago)
― Alan Conceicao (Alan Conceicao), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 01:10 (twenty years ago)
Oh yeah.
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 01:14 (twenty years ago)
― youn, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 02:04 (twenty years ago)
― Star Hustler, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)
B-b-b-but Texas is God's Great Paradise! ;)
Anything you want, you've got it in Texas. You want to fulfill your little childhood fantasies of being a cowpoke? Git along, city slicker, because we've still got wide-open spaces. You want to shop shop shop to your heart's content at very chichi boutiques? In every one of our cities there's at least one exclusive shopping center. You want beaches? Welcome to the Gulf of Mexico. You want desert? Drive on out toward West Texas. You want lush, rolling hills and seas of green? Hello, Hill Country calling! You want a guaranteed snow-filled winter wonderland? Come on down and meet the Panhandle!
Every one of our cities has its own unique flavor. Dallas is the home of old money and genteel Southern manners. Houston is a megametropolis, the fourth most populous city in the U.S.. El Paso is an oasis in the desert. Austin is hip and happening and full of youthful energy. San Antonio is my home and I can't express to you how much it means to me. Laredo is a little slice of Mexico right here in TX. Neither one of our cities is like the other -- I found the Dallas atmosphere completely different from S.A.'s, for example. Yet, we are all Texan to the core.
I love Texas. Texas courses through my veins as surely as its air fills up my lungs. Even if I were to move away, I would always keep a bit of Texas inside of me. As the rather tired but true saying goes, you can take the Texan out of Texas but you can't take the Texas out of the Texan. We are all raised under that big Texas sky and as a result have big hearts, think big, have big personalities, and live big.
Happy Texas Independence Day.
-- Many Coloured Halo (deethe_downspamdown_lurke...) (webmail), March 2nd, 2004 5:48 PM.
― (This Field Left Blank) (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 02:45 (twenty years ago)
Ind. School Converted to Swingers ClubSep 19 5:17 PM US/Eastern
MUNCIE, Ind.
Residents of a southwest Muncie neighborhood thought the 110-year-old former school with purple doors had been vacant these past 14 months. So neighbors were surprised to find out the building _ which was last used as a bingo hall _ is home to one of Indiana's seven swingers clubs.
"I thought it was empty, to tell you the truth," Mary Neal, who rents a house across from the club, told The Star Press. "That shocks me. I'm just floored. There are a lot of kids that walk around here."
Swinging involves having social and sexual intercourse with someone other than a spouse, boyfriend or girlfriend. It primarily involves couples.
Local religious leaders are vowing to shut down the 7,3000-square-foot Klub Layden, saying it could bring crime into the community. And neighbors and city officials are debating whether the residential area is the proper location for a private club.
Marta Moody, director of the city-county plan commission, said Klub Layden could violate zoning rules for adult entertainment, but officials aren't sure whether the facility is operating as an adult business or a private club.
City laws require adult businesses to be at least 500 feet from residential areas.
A woman who identified herself as a manager, but refused to give her name, told The Associated Press that the club and its members were discreet and had received no complaints from neighbors.
The club is open two days a week and has pool tables, a dance floor, a six-person hot tub, a multiple-person shower and "sensually designed theme rooms," according to its Web site.
Klub Layden is open Friday and Saturday nights, and advises its members to bring their own alcohol and contraception. The club provides sheets, bathrobes and locker rooms.
An annual membership costs $25 for couples and single men and $20 for single women.
Members must agree to not identify others or their experiences at the club, without permissio
― shookout (shookout), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 02:47 (twenty years ago)
Missouri isn't so bad; Kansas City has some cool areas, and the main college town (Columbia) can be fun in a college-town way. The Ozarks have lots of caves that are lit up with kitschy multicolored lights. St. Louis is a bit too soccer mom. Branson is wretched, but at least it's got Yakov Smirnoff: http://www.yakov.com/
― Klarinet, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 02:52 (twenty years ago)
There's a certain North Carolina accent - I want to say maybe it's Western but not the most hick version of Western - kind of like a slightly trashier Virgina accent, that I find to be one of the most attractive things ever in a woman. I think I would pay a woman with such an accent just to speak to me, maybe read to me or something, for an hour every day. Actually I'm specifically thinking of this writer who I think was named Lee Smith who I heard on NPR, so maybe I should just make her an offer.
― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 02:54 (twenty years ago)
http://www.leesmith.com/images/earlee.jpg
― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 02:57 (twenty years ago)
― shookout (shookout), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 02:59 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 03:03 (twenty years ago)
― John Justen (johnjusten), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 05:20 (twenty years ago)
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 05:58 (twenty years ago)
illinoiswisconsinmichigancaliforniatennesseekentuckyvirginiacoloradowashingtonmassachusettesnew yorkhawaiimontanaidahonew mexicominnesotageorgianorth carolinamaineD.C.
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 07:01 (twenty years ago)
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)
― M. V. (M.V.), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 07:34 (twenty years ago)
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)
if you accept somehow that boise is pronounced like "boys" then you'd get
BOYS, I DA HO!!!! yo!
indeed.
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)
― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)
― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)
NJ defended.
― zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)
― AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)
-- Jeff-PTTL (poopoopo...), September 20th, 2005.
The Eastern NC accent is the one that sounds a little Gump-ish, no?
― Hurting (Hurting), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)
Oh, and there's red clay soil in Alabama and north Florida, too! Mars with kudzu's a pretty damn accurate description.
― Ian Riese-Moraine: Let this bastard out, and you'll get whiplash! (Eastern Mantr, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)
― Ian Riese-Moraine: Let this bastard out, and you'll get whiplash! (Eastern Mantr, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)
the one dud thing about NJ: NJ employers thinking that they can get away w/ paying less than employers in either NYC or philadelphia. which is why there are so many NJers working in both cities if they can do so.
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 06:39 (twenty years ago)