and what's the result of a retroactive investigation like this going to be? it's not possible to prosecute someone for taking drugs in teh past is it, provided that the only video evidence is of consumption, rather than purchase?
― barbarian cities (jaybob3005), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:41 (twenty years ago)
― The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)
Really? You think?
― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)
― terry lennox. (gareth), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)
― The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)
― Bender (trayce), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)
― tissp! (the impossible shortest specia), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:49 (twenty years ago)
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)
― barbarian cities (jaybob3005), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:52 (twenty years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)
― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)
S'not quite the laugh-a-minute victimless crime some would have us belive.
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)
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Yes, evil cocaine is the only consumer product relying on exploitation. I assume you make sure that everything you ever spend on money on involves no suffering or exploitation of any kind, Sunshine.
― Terry the Troll (Terry the Troll), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:34 (twenty years ago)
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)
― beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)
― The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)
Maybe they could raid KM's home and find her eating a mars bar out of Pete's arse.
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)
― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)
― pete doherty, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)
No hypocrisy about cocaine: they're all smackheads on the Standard.
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)
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― beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)
― pete doherty, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)
― beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)
― beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:58 (twenty years ago)
― I'm a Problem for Anthony Blair (noodle vague), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)
― beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)
― The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)
― beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)
― beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)
almso i miss kaye badly i amd i want here to come back to me please oh god kate come back to me to me pete dojerty
Uh Pete you got married in NY apparently.
― nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:09 (twenty years ago)
― The Brocade Fire (kate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)
― Come Back Johnny B (Johnney B), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)
― nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:17 (twenty years ago)
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)
Wouldn't the eating (of fat-laden junk food, no less) be the real scandal there?
― j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)
in which case..?
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)
You think? Really? Wow, OTM. You better let the Government know. Reach for the red telephone.
What is the common link between all pot smokers? What are the common factors in each of their personalities? How does enjoyment of any drug make the people taking it exactly the same?
You like to talk about the rights of the individual, but how can this be if you do not accept the individual. “Oh, as long as I call all niggers bastards and not single out one in particular, there's no problem”. "As much as I hate I can't help but think how much more disgusting are", said the President.
Please keep your uninformed, bigoted, spiteful opinions to yourself please, as you so often tell others to do. No wait, better still, let everyone know and thus allow people to dismiss any of the comments you make and show yourself up as a hater and an moron.
― Sailor Moon (uzumaki), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)
― barbarian cities (jaybob3005), Thursday, 22 September 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)
i run an influential job in a high-pressure environment - if i 'flake out', take a duvet day or pull a sickie, vulnerable people suffer - that's not arrogance, just the reality of my position. i've had 392 scheduled days off in the last 4 1/2 years. i'm used to being thoroughly scrutinised and challenged on my words by Very Powerful People and Liberals from the afternoon i arrive at my desk. i don't do newspapers - they'd eat me alive.
i'm partying to things inside a working day that would make your hair curl. when i get home at night i have to switch off fast. i snort coke . that's my drug of choice. my line managers advisers are very clear that by whatever means I AM NOT TO WORK WHEN THEY'RE NOT THERE. because if i did then over a period of time i would fuck things up more than you would believe and cease to function at full capacity in waking hours.
then i get up and do it all over again. it's hard work i tell ya. i work very hard and i'm workin hard
tell me about your life Brocade - for all your sadwipe self-righteous hatred, i still bet you're more of a flake than me...
― george w bush (GerryNemo), Thursday, 22 September 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 22 September 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)
― sfxxx, Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)
2) Actually, I don't. You don't read every thread I contribute to, do you?
― The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)
God, I read way too much trash. :-(
H&M down, Chanel down, "career in tatters" according to a tabloid I read over someone's shoulder on the bus - what else is left? Heh.
I can understand H&M dropping her cause they have a very strict no-drugs policy/stance (or whatever you call it). But Burberry? Chanel? Me thinks this is also the perfect chance to drop her without a court case, no? WHATEVER, she'll be back.
― nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)
1)Croydon is in the London Borough of Croydon.
2)The argument about snorting coke not being a victimless crime because of dying drug 'mules' doesn't really make sense. Imagine if many western governments outlawed mobile phones or tobasco sauce or razor blades or something, but there was still substantial consumer demand for these products within those western countries. The black market would illictly produce these products and people would smuggle them into those western countries. Some of those people would be very poor and desperate and be willing to jeopardise their safety (by swallowing dozens of phones / jars of sauce / blades / whatever) in return for cash. Some of them would die. This does not make the act of texting / shaving / eating chilli con carne inherently evil. It is the criminalisation of the act which causes the problem. Trust me - no one's dying from having too many mobile phones in their stomachs.
― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)
reading through my original post i find it kinda comical that i use the insult 'self-righteous' inside such a blatantly sanctimonious post - pot/kettle/black eh brocade? i suppose my point was that you shouldn't stereotype drug users. my short term memory is fine and what's more i...i...err what was the thread about again?
oh yes kate moss. i think popbitch says it best:
Moss on the cross Model crucified for enjoying herself Now that the world's worst-kept secret has finally made it on to the front of the tabloids - thin model likes drugs and sex - everyone is queuing up to have a go at Kate Moss. Even her rivals' model agencies have been getting in on the act, writing letters to the likes of Chanel and Rimmel, pretending to be irate customers, and trying to get her dropped because they are sick of her getting all the big contracts and their models getting none. But leading the anti-Moss charge are, of course, the newspapers, who are ecstatic about the opportunity to put a circulation-friendly beautiful woman on the cover while sanctimoniously attacking her for taking drugs and having sex.
NRQ thanks - do a search on my posts - you'll find i'm never less than upfront about my twatiness. still i have my personal standards. i like to tell myself that despite all my faults i'm still only a fraction of the cunt presented by that alan bloke on the katrina aftermath thread.
and for the satisfaction of all you haterz out there, my car blew up terminally last night - karma in action!
― john clarkson, Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)
I think the word "inherently" is doing a lot of work here. Nothing is "inherently" evil - things are evil because of their consequences. To think that taking drugs has no consequences for anyone else is somewhat disingenuous.
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)
I'm not saying that, though, am I? I'm saying that you can't use the plight of drugs mules as an argument against drugs (and hence in favour of their prohibition) when it's the very prohibition which brings about the plight of the drugs mules. Obviously there are OTHER reasons why cocaine is more harmful than tobasco sauce. (or mobile phones, etc.)
― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)
― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)
In that case I would weigh how much I really needed Tabasco sauce versus the harm to society that would be caused by my continuing to support the illicit Tabasco trade.
― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)
― The Brocade Fire (kate), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)
http://redstateson.blogspot.com/2005/09/wholesome.html
"...while H&M now insists that it has cleaned up its act, some concern remains, esp from the labor movement. Whoever's sewing H&M's clothes these days, let's pray to the Almighty that they aren't doing drugs while working (though how someone can stitch for 16-plus hours at a time without some kind of stimulant is beyond me). Wholesome sweat means wholesome apparel, sold at affordable prices."
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 22 September 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/26/business/26link.html?8hpib
― o. nate (onate), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)
― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)
eh? i thought it was or have i been watching too much ali g?
i'm a brit btw
― john clarkson, Monday, 26 September 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)
― Anna (Anna), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Monday, 26 September 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)
― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)
― Anna (Anna), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)
― N_RQ, Monday, 26 September 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)
― john clarkson, Monday, 26 September 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)
― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)
― Anna (Anna), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)
omg this is brilliant! it had never occurred to me that this could ever cause confusion.
minger rhymes with singer down south, but with finger up north - much as film sounds a bit like fiwm down south, but like fillum if you're from the north-east. crikey.
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)
is very strong at all??
We don't like to talk about the double G finger madness to outsiders.
― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)
anyway. back to kate moss.
― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)
I am having typing issues today.
― Anna (Anna), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)
*note -- there's a phonetic symbol for this, but i don't know how to make it show up.
― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)
Nooooooo! Because we say 'fing-guh'. It's not that we lack the hard 'g' it's that people from Liverpool (and perhaps Wolverhampton and who knows where else) always have a hard 'g' at the end of '-ng' words.
― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)
― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)
― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)
― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)
― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 26 September 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)
1 hour, 11 minutes agoLONDON - Two British newspapers reported Thursday that Kate Moss has checked into a rehabilitation clinic in Arizona.
Friends of the 31-year-old supermodel who was photographed apparently snorting cocaine told The Times that Moss flew to The Meadows clinic, where she will spend a month in "medical treatment and therapy."
A nurse on duty at the Wickenburg, Ariz., facility said she could not confirm or deny a patient's presence. The model's agent wasn't immediately available for comment Thursday. Several phone calls to the Storm modeling agency went unanswered.
Moss lost contracts with H&M, Burberry and Chanel worth millions of dollars after the photos were published in the Daily Mirror tabloid.
Moss issued an apology last week, taking "full responsibility for my actions." In her statement, Moss said, "I also accept that there are various personal issues that I need to address and have started taking the difficult, yet necessary, steps to resolve them."
Sarah Doukas, head of the Storm modeling agency, said Wednesday that Moss would soon sign a contract to represent a luxury perfume brand.
"She loves modeling — and she needs to be busy," Doukas said.
Is that really true? I wasn't aware Chanel was trying to project some kind of image of glowing health. It's not like she was promoting Chance.
― Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)
― Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)
BTW a couple of people ex my magazine have jobs at Chanel's creative department.
― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 1 October 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Saturday, 1 October 2005 22:46 (twenty years ago)
― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 1 October 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)
Kate Moss Out of Rehab By Josh Grossberg Sat Oct 29,11:53 PM ET
Kate Moss is headed back to the runway.
The supermodel checked out of an Arizona rehab facility earlier this week and plans to reunite with her 3-year-old daughter, Lila Grace, and get back to work, according to a rep from the Storm modeling agency.
Moss, 31, entered the Meadows Clinic outside of Phoenix last month, days after London's Daily Mirror published embarrassing photos of her "hoovering up" lines of cocaine at a late-night recording session for rocker-beau, Pete Doherty and his band, Babyshambles.
"Kate is in excellent spirits and looking forward to getting back to work. She would like to thank everyone for their messages of support as they have played a major part in helping her," a Storm spokesperson said in a statement.
The Daily Mirror's scathing expose threatened to derail the baby-faced catwalker's long career as several luxury purveyors, including H&M, Chanel and Burberry, canceled million-dollar contracts with her.
In the aftermath, Moss released a statement expressing regret over her behavior, apologizing to people she let down, and indicating she was taking action to address her personal problems, but stopping short of admitting her drug use.
Moss previously checked herself into a drug treatment center in 1998, claiming she was suffering from "exhaustion." She later admitted she'd been hitting the bottle and getting high before hopping on the catwalk, but denied ever indulging in harder substances.
Moss, whose longtime agent said she was "absolutely devastated" by the cocaine allegations, has her share of defenders, including fellow fashionista Naomi Campbell, who called the uproar a "vendetta" against her friend, and actress Sharon Stone, who said Moss' mess wasn't a big deal because she was owning up to her mistakes.
Unfortunately, the headlines of cocaine use by the celebrity have spurred a police investigation, and it's possible Moss may face questioning by authorities if she returns to Great Britain.
U.K. police also arrested Doherty, 26, and interrogated him for more than 12 hours after conducting a raid on the ex-Libertines front man and his group backstage at Music Hall in Shrewsbury, England, where Babyshambles was playing a gig.
Per the Guardian newspaper, investigators seized drugs including heroin, Ecstasy, LSD and cocaine. Doherty, who was released on bail, declared the matter afterward a "pain in the arse," before heading for a pub.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/eo/20051030/en_celeb_eo/17664;_ylt=AolLQMhPiP9XeyiJI3xtduoXIr0F;_ylu=X3oDMTA2ZGZwam4yBHNlYwNmYw--
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 7 November 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)