Interracial r*l*ti*nsh*ps

I am officially Jewish and have never been out with a Jewish bloke. However I don't consider that I have been in a mixed race relationship (even with ex from Birmingham).

It should be noted that when I dated white women, I did so primarily because they were the only women around. When the options became more varied, I dated everyone. (Well, I fantasized about dating everyone. I only really dated a few people before meeting my wife. How crushing it is to discover years after the fact that, had I been more confident and callous, I could have been the super pimp daddy mack...)

NOTE: I had initially had a typo where I wrote "teats" instead of "tears". I think we should incorporate the phrase "teats of laughter" into the ILE lexicon.

I'm on the verge of giving myself a brain hemmorhage trying to figure out what this is suposed to mean. Are we supposed to conclude that your friend feels that asian women have explosive flatulence?

So how was itm why did those relationships fail plz

It was kind of depressing. White women in a Portsmouth club who only slept with black men and seemed completely oblivious to Matthews' good-humoured suggestions that it might not be an altogether helpful thing for them to be going on about black men's big dicks and sexual prowess all the time. And yeah, of course there were a whole bunch of black men he interviewed who were playing up to it.

It's getting like America here now, where black women are doing much better in the workplace than their male counterparts, joining the middle classes and finding there are no suitable black men for them. The ones he interviewed didn't want to abandon black men at all, but they just seemed lost in the dating game. They didn't talk about having white partners instead. I don't know the stats. Weird mix of gender and race animosities going on, anyway.

I also dated a girl who was West Indian. We got along well enough, but her sisters hated me for being white (and mercilessly teased her for dating white guys), and her Dad painted me as a crude, uneducated Newfoundlander (ignoring the fact that I grew up hopelessly middle class there and had moved to Toronto to go to university). We didn't last too long.

I'm admittedly confused by this distinction.

in england, asian means the south asia, in north america and canada, it means north/north east asia.

yeah--just cause france has a lot of interracial couples (and is this true statistically?) doesn't mean that it doesn't have a whole HOST of really fucked-up attitudes and behaviors related to anti-immigrant racism.

But everyone believes themselves to be repressed

Here I think you're misuderstanding my use of the term 'repressed.' While Koreans (using the example) may feel that it would be easier if they were white, they don't seem to feel, or at least don't convey, that they are unable to advance in society due to racism, although they surely feel instances of individual or even collective racism.

I agree with your assessment of the closed community, and I think it's an important insight. This again suggests to me that time in and of itself has some corrosive impact on our cultural / racial islands, but it's a very slow process. However, I don't know how much I think your 'self-nominated' guys really influence a whole community, although I do think that communities can hinder people who would like to gravitate toward others who are not in their assigned community.

As to your example of France and how it compares to the US / London, I don't think that if we ignored race in the way the French do it would make a difference. If you go to LA or New York, I think you will see a lot of interracial couples and groups, and you'll see them all the time. I think one of the keys to this whole thread is whether we are really talking about 'inter-racial' relationships or whether we are really talking about 'inter-cultural' relationships. When new cultures come together there may not be much mixing initially, but as those cultures go through a generation or two together, that's when things really change. And that is much more powerful than any kind of artificial attention / ignoring.

And the Paris riots seem to confirm my viewpoint, by the way. Weren't these new immigrants, versus the interracial group members you see in Paris being originally born in France?

No.

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http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/2009/10/05/your-race-affects-whether-people-write-you-back/

unpredictable but kinda fascinating imo

also depressingly predictable in parts

cool http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/10/16/louisiana.interracial.marriage/

"I'm not a racist," Bardwell told the newspaper. "I do ceremonies for black couples right here in my house. My main concern is for the children."

yeah just read this on the bbc http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8310509.stm

"I try to treat everyone equally"

What a scumbag. This guy's like everything I hate all rolled into one.

Any day now I'm about to become an uncle to a mixed race kid and I can quite easily say fuck this guy. Not that I needed to be around an inter-racial relationship to say fuck this guy, I'm just excited about becoming an uncle.

My main concern is for the children.

I mean
http://img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/rsz/434/x/x/x/medias/nmedia/18/65/29/44/18844340.jpg

you know this guy also lets his black friends use his toilet
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091016/ap_on_re_us/us_interracial_rebuff

He said he had "piles and piles of black friends"

uh

he is just trying to protect the kids from the horrible stigma of growing up to be president

http://www.blvdst.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/plies.jpg

oh wait

those okcupid stats are grim

I've said it before and I'll say it again, this country really is moving fucking backwards.

would be curious how much variety there is within their different demographics, I'm wondering if there are groups within these demographics who get almost no/loads of replies and swing the stats. Also curious what a UK breakdown would look like.

assumed this thread was bumped to talk about the balloon boy's parents...

http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs31/f/2008/234/b/d/Of_Wolf_and_Man_by_urban_barbarian.jpg

are JPs really allowed to reject marriages?

I often wonder about the interracial couples I know who don't speak much of the same language. (Okay, fuck it, they're all Japanese-Belgian.) They'll speak mangled (?) English to eachother. (One guy's English is just so Oo I often think he should just stick to his own language, she'll probably figure the message out just as well. I get a headache from only listening to him for five minutes, how the fuck does she get through the day with him yapping away in fucked up English????) I just wonder how well they really know eachother. (And it doesn't help that almost all couples have broken up: the divorce rate is just sky high.) But y'know fuck it if they are happy and in love (until it ends in divorce hah), I am happy for'em, even if it's not "real" love. :-)

Oh yeah that guy said:"I don't want no Flemish women, they're not worthy. I just want Japanese women." Sigh.

I am happy for'em, even if it's not "real" love. :-)

sub geir territory

hahah Well, there you go. We always end up there. And then crawl back out. I was referring to people who claim it isn't real love. Me, I don't give a fuck, as I said before.

"I'm not a racist," Bardwell told the newspaper. "Except that i really am."

I still can't stop laughing about the firecracker ass comment above???? I have no idea what it's suppose to mean, but the imagine it gives me has me laughing. I used to work with a guy who referred to every attractive hispanic girl he would see as Hot Tamale. It became so grating that I told, why don't you ever talk to any of these Hot Tamales you go on about. He said, I don't actually want to sleep with a mexican???

Wow. I've NEVER heard the perspective that black men are exoticized or fetished.

btw I am looking back in time 8 years and wondering exactly wtf I was talking about here; was it sarcasm or was I making a commentary on how white and sheltered my hometown was?

"I have piles and piles of black 'friends'," said Bardwell, punctuated by a barely concealed sinister chuckle and a tender stroke of his traditional Klansman robe.

I took that as sarcasm.

xpost hi dere

hahaha "oh I have SO MANY black friends... just piles of 'em *eye roll*"

I've said it before and I'll say it again, this country really is moving fucking backwards.

WESSON, MS (WLBT) - A picture is causing quite the controversy down at Wesson Attendance Center in Wesson, Mississippi. A female student chose to wear a garment that most males wear. And now, she's fighting to get that photo in her senior yearbook.

"I tried on the drape and it looked ridiculous. It was terrible" said Sturgis.

So Ceara put on a tuxedo instead.

"She's a very athletic person" said Veronica Rodriguez, Ceara's mother.

She says her daughter should be allowed to wear whatever she likes.

"And the tuxedo is what she wore to make her feel more comfortable" added Rodriguez.

But Wesson Attendance Center officials are refusing to put her photo in the school yearbook.

"It makes me feel i'm not important enough. Like just because I'm wearing a tux I can't be in my senior yearbook. It's like i never even went there. That's my yearbook. This is my senior year and i'm not gonna be able to be in there because I'm wearing a tux. I don't think it matters what we're wearing" said Ceara.

A spokesperson for the Copiah County School District refused an on camera interview. However she did admit that there is no such policy dealing with yearbook pictures in their student handbooks.

She says in these cases, they leave it up to the individual principal of the school to make the final decision.

Principal Ronald Greer wouldn't talk to us either, but he did issue a statement.

"I am not going to be able to make a comment on that particular situation" the statement read.

"She's a very athletic person" said Veronica Rodriguez, Ceara's mother.

that's code for something...

"piles and piles of black friends"

the friends are sorted into piles based on skin tone, btw

Interracial marriage still rising, but not as fast

By HOPE YEN (AP) – 5 hours ago

WASHINGTON — Melting pot or racial divide? The growth of interracial marriages is slowing among U.S.-born Hispanics and Asians. Still, blacks are substantially more likely than before to marry whites.

The number of interracial marriages in the U.S. has risen 20 percent since 2000 to about 4.5 million, according to the latest census figures. While still growing, that number is a marked drop-off from the 65 percent increase between 1990 and 2000.

About 8 percent of U.S. marriages are mixed-race, up from 7 percent in 2000.

The latest trend belies notions of the U.S. as a post-racial, assimilated society. Demographers cite a steady flow of recent immigration that has given Hispanics and Asians more ethnically similar partners to choose from while creating some social distance from whites due to cultural and language differences.

White wariness toward a rapidly growing U.S. minority population also may be contributing to racial divisions, experts said.

"Racial boundaries are not going to disappear anytime soon," said Daniel Lichter, a professor of sociology and public policy at Cornell University. He noted the increase in anti-immigrant sentiment in the U.S. after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks as well as current tensions in Arizona over its new immigration law.

"With a white backlash toward immigrant groups, some immigrants are more likely to turn inward to each other for support," Lichter said.

Broken down by race, about 40 percent of U.S.-born Asians now marry whites — a figure unchanged since 1980. Their likelihood of marrying foreign-born Asians, meanwhile, multiplied 3 times for men and 5 times for women, to roughly 20 percent.

Among U.S.-born Hispanics, marriages with whites increased modestly from roughly 30 percent to 38 percent over the past three decades. But when it came to marriages with foreign-born Hispanics, the share doubled — to 12.5 percent for men, and 17.1 percent for women.

In contrast, blacks are now three times as likely to marry whites than in 1980. About 14.4 percent of black men and 6.5 percent of black women are currently in such mixed marriages, due to higher educational attainment, a more racially integrated military and a rising black middle class that provides more interaction with other races.

The numbers reflect in part an internal struggle that Asians and Hispanics say they feel navigating two cultural worlds — the U.S. and their parents' homeland.

Hai Nguyen, 37, of Houston recalls the instant connection she felt after meeting her first Vietnamese boyfriend, Greg, in college. Nguyen says while she had to explain herself to white boyfriends, with Greg it was a feeling that "he so gets me, because we eat the same food, we like the same things, our families know each other and there is so little that needs to be said."

With the enthusiastic support of her parents, she and Greg married. But their connection soon began to fade, due partly to Nguyen's budding career as a business analyst, which clashed with more traditional expectations for her to "always have fresh food on the table." The two divorced and Nguyen is now remarried to Jon, who is white.

"My parents have prejudices, but they've accepted it," said Nguyen. She described occasionally feeling different with her parents and other single-race couples. "They know it's inevitable. My native tongue will eventually fade, and history will take its course."

The demographic shifts can complicate conventional notions of racial identity.

Due to increasing interracial marriages, multiracial Americans are a small but fast-growing demographic group, making up about 5 percent of the minority population. Together with blacks, Hispanics and Asians, the Census Bureau estimates they collectively will represent a majority of the U.S. population by mid-century.

Still, many multiracial people — particularly those who are part black — shun a "multi" label in favor of identifying as a single race.

By some estimates, two-thirds of those who checked the single box of "black" on the census form are actually mixed, including President Barack Obama, who identified himself as black in the 2010 census even though his mother was white.

Census figures also show:

_Hawaii had the highest share of mixed marriages, about 32 percent. It was followed by Alaska, Oklahoma, New Mexico and Nevada, which ranged from 15 percent to 19 percent. The bottom five states were Pennsylvania, Maine, Kentucky, Mississippi and West Virginia, each ranging from 3 percent to 4 percent.

_Mississippi had the fastest growth in mixed marriages from 2000-08, a sign of closer ties between blacks and whites, though it still ranked second to last in overall share of mixed marriages.

_Mixed marriages jumped from 2.25 million to 3.7 million, or 65 percent, from 1990-2000, as such unions became more broadly accepted in Southern states.

_Among U.S.-born whites, about 0.3 percent married blacks in 1980; that figure rose to about 1 percent in 2008. About 0.3 percent of whites married Asians in 1980 and about 1 percent in 2008. About 2 percent of whites married Hispanics in 1980, rising to about 3.6 percent in 2008.

Juan Thurman, 37, a Houston sales account manager, says both family pressure and a strong ethnic identity weighed heavily on him as a Hispanic when he was dating, even as he found himself interacting more with other races in school.

In high school and at Rice University, Thurman said, he had fewer opportunities to meet Hispanic women in his honors classes. Ultimately, he married Emily, who is white, based on shared life views of gender equity and a liberal outlook toward religion. He relishes having friends of many different backgrounds.

"Interracial marriage is not a big deal," Thurman said. "Still, from a family standpoint, I did feel culturally different and I continue to feel so."

The figures come from previous censuses as well as the 2008 American Community Survey, which surveys 3 million households. The figures for "white" refer to those whites who are not of Hispanic ethnicity. For purposes of defining interracial marriages, Hispanic is counted as a race.

I am mixed of A (mom) & B (dad) and when my last serious relationship was someone of C.

Mom complained "why don't you marry an A?" and Dad was like "you should marry a B", but before I knew it I had met C's parents and things didn't work out, mostly because I wasn't a C.

Now I am now with someone who is also mixed of D & E and everything seems to be cool so far.

Keep your filthy Alsatian Belarussian hands offa our pure Danish Eritrean daughters.

By some estimates, two-thirds of those who checked the single box of "black" on the census form are actually mixed, including President Barack Obama, who identified himself as black in the 2010 census even though his mother was white.

By non-insane estimates, PRACTICALLY EVERYONE who checked "black" on the census form is "actually mixed." I mean WTF is this nonsense sentence.

"we have a mixed president and you do not"

mixed people check census forms like this

I'm sort of wondering if they published a related op-ed arguing that the census should just have a single box that says "I was raised in a vacuum-sealed laboratory and, having no social sense of racial constructs, have attached a complete genetic profile with significant markers highlighted in blue"

totally using my Greek Cypriot heritage to identify as Moorish you guys

i checked "i'm white but if it was 1830 i would not be white"

(Hey BTW I realize this is off-topic for a romance thread, but did anyone watch that Skip Gates genetic/genealogy series, and if so can you remember who was the one person who turned out to be 0% European? I feel like it was Oprah but I could be wrong.)

i watched it but i don't remember anyone being 0% european, i remember some 0% native americans

About 8 percent of U.S. marriages are mixed-race, up from 7 percent in 2000...The latest trend belies notions of the U.S. as a post-racial, assimilated society.

It was just a silly notion to begin with, but for those who clung to this notion I fail to understand why statistic would belie anything of that sort.