― anthony, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Of course you could as if the US Governement is psychopathic and has a different belief structure. You might be on safer ground there.
― Pete, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
But the worst thing they have done is denied my visa ;)
Personally I think the US government as an entity is acting out of sincere concern for a select few cronies, oil companies and their own individual members' security and comfort.
Whether its collectively evil, I'm not sure but a number of individual congressman and staff surely fall into that category.
― chris, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
However as we know, Washington is a law unto itself in the Beltway, and without wanting to sound like some kind of conspiracy theorist knucklehead, FcBiIa and politicians giving virtual head to lobby groups are the things that ruin it for everyone, both at home and abroad. I would prefer that the US military/intelligence did not intervene in the affairs of other sovereign governments unless it's for non-spurious Monroe Doctrine reasons (helping things along peacewise in Ulster is a good example of this; I like that it's keeping Clinton busy as an altruist special adviser). Anything else is evil and I resent that the government is used as a conduit to power/$$ for special interest groups with no responsibility to the public at large. So do most Americans if the argument against is put to them properly.
So, answer: no, not inherently evil but still fairly easy to twist to own ends by individuals who ARE evil. In Minnesota, which is my home state and possibly the closest thing to socialism you'll get in the whole nation, so allergic is the populace to Republican manipulation that even in the midst of being morally disgusted by a Democrat's sexual mores (and oh please, show me a Prez who doesn't have a bit on the side) they showed a sense of humour by choosing a former WWF wrestler to govern the state to register their displeasure with a betrayal of acceptable standards of behaviour in government.
― suzy, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
One of the biggest reasons that I fled that US was because its political system was becoming more and more abhorrent, they were impeaching a president as I left.
Like Christianity and Communism, the US government has a lot of beautiful thoughts and idealistic philosophy behind it. But like those other two models, it's been sold out by the fundamental meanness and smallness of the human mind and the tenacity of self interest of the few against the urge to protect those who don't really deserve it.
Why are you asking me about politics? Politics only brings out my most vicious of misanthropies.
― masonic boom, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
The founding fathers baulked at the idea of democracy, hence the electoral college system you guys have. Each state 'elects' an oligarch to make the decision on the president. The whole system is stacked against enrty by minority parties and there's no cap on how much money corporations can pay to get their guy electected. The US is a republic on the roman model not a democracy.
― Ed, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Any Americans got hold of the book Empire yet?
― tarden, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
The same thing happens in britain Thatcher got in in 97 with a smaller share of the popular vote than Kinnock, also Major in 92. Infact its probably worse because voting for the leader is not separate to voting for parliment. (look at the number of councils that went a different way from MPs, people are quite sophisticated if and when they vote)
― Richard Tunnicliffe, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Remind us how much do$h you will getting?, and what will you spend it on?
― DJ Martian, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Elections aren't about what the people have voted FOR: they're about formalising a process of (superficial? not always) change that the people will put up with without resorting to violence or widespread disobedience, a very different thing.
― mark s, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Geoff, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― Mike Hanle y, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Suzy, I agree with this, seeing as US=union of states, its just that a state like rhode island has x people per EC seat and California has y people where y>x
Mark s, coalitions can mean paralysis but can also mean a greater proportion of peoples desires are realised. A greater proportion of peoples views are represented round the cabinet table. There's lots of other stuff wrong with PR. Shortly I will go back to work on my half cocked idea for an electoral system, the half cocked rant can be seen here. I'd appreciate some further critique on it.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― tOM p, Monday, 16 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
― masonic boom, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Richard: I think it was February 1974 that the Tories got more votes than Labour but Labour had a majority in parliament, hence the hung parliament and the need for another election in October. This time, astonishingly and quite worryingly, Labour had a massive majority and virtually unlimited mandate with the support of only 24% of the electorate (41% didn't vote, 35% voted for all the other parties combined: therefore 6% more of the electorate were too apathetic to vote than voted against the government).
― Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 17 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago) link
Because We are fundamentaly evil. Period.
There is no way to get over it. Period. No way. ever.
The question is not whether the government is evil or not, nor is it why it is evil.
The question, we evil egoist ask ourself is (Why can't I dominate the world instead of the evil government?)
The answer is... because the government has rafined is machiavelism for century, it is the very soul of every person that help him through is ascention. It is every law that are voted for stability. It is the hearth and the soul of every evil politician that wanted to be the pawn of some obscure political plot because in there twisted illness they though they could won some political power...
So What can u do about that ?
Drink beer with your friends, have sex with your oh so many girlfriends, fall in hedonism ! Revel yourself in nihilistic tendancy ! And don't ever... ever ask yourself pointlless question... I know all the answer. but I'm not alway in a cynical mood, so I can give the anwer.
Pray Satan or God... Because u want to continue your evil deeds in afterlife...
And read the incoherent thought of a teenager in is basement in some obscure country.
Oh I forgot english is not my first language, it is rather my second language, so don't ever complain about my english because of the time I devoted to learn your language instead of burning wood in the backyard of a dark mansion in a dark land...
Have a nice day ! Have a bad day !
Either way I don't care !
― yann onimus, Saturday, 3 August 2002 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
So I have a BA in statistics from UGA... I applied for an entry level (grade 5) position at the Census Bureau in Atlanta. I moved back to my folks place after I graduated from UGA (last may). Now they are buggering me about getting a job. I tell them that I don't want to get a full-time job because I might just have to quit when and if I hear back from the Census Bureau. But my mom keeps saying "you might not get that job".
So what do I do now? Get a fulltime job while I wait to hear back from the Census Bureau (which might end in getting a month of training at this full-time job and then I end up quitting a couple months later...) Or do I go get a lesser paying part-time job at a call center...
What's your opinion? Full-time job where I might have to quit... or a part-time job where I might have to quit?
― CaptainLorax, Monday, 29 September 2008 20:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Full-time job!
― Abbott, Monday, 29 September 2008 20:26 (sixteen years ago) link
You won't regret it either way.
― Abbott, Monday, 29 September 2008 20:27 (sixteen years ago) link
if you can get a govt services job at the census bureau nobody is going to care if you only worked two months at your last job.
― El Tomboto, Monday, 29 September 2008 20:52 (sixteen years ago) link
also, great revive.
― El Tomboto, Monday, 29 September 2008 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link
the first thing you need to do is look up what "buggering" means
― goole, Monday, 29 September 2008 20:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Get the full-time job.
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 29 September 2008 20:59 (sixteen years ago) link
yann onimus OTM
― I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Monday, 29 September 2008 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link
captainLorax should take whatever job firewalls his ILX access
― akm, Monday, 29 September 2008 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link
walls cant be made of fire silly
― CaptainLorax, Monday, 29 September 2008 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link