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Was watching SNL over the weekend and noticing, certainly not for the first time but for some reason it’s really smacking me around now, how flat out AWFUL this show is and continues to be. How the heck does Lorne get away with hacking out the same weak, tired junk year after year? I’m not blaming the cast so much as I’m blaming the writers for stuff like the “Bob Bummer” skit, where the joke’s telegraphed in the first half minute. The “all black guys = Kenan” thing’s dead, stop reanimating it. The cartoons and performances are the best thing about SNL at this point. These aren’t new complaints, I know, but I can’t help making them now.

And now, a dumb corollary:

SNL’s continued existence = Bush administration’s continued existence (equally contrary to sanity)

(p.s. Saturday’s episode DID have its moments, i.e. “Katrina Gone Wild”)

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

Welcome to the 90's, bitch. Let us know when you make it to the new century.

Jimmy Mod wants you to tighten the strings on your corset (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

God, I love ILE.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

Debbie Downer is the best recent sketch. I don't remember anything else. I do like Tina Fey and find it generally very watchable. I think people forget how many BAD sketches there were even during the "golden age".

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

i liked tina fey for the firt year or two but she's not funny anymore either.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

ipart of the problem being that by the time saturday comes around, john stewart used all the good topical news jokes

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

I like Fey's touch with the commercials: "Mom Jeans" "Lower-Back Tattoo Remover" etc.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

SNL is as funny as it was in the Golden Age. REMOVE YOUR ROSE-TINTED GLASSES.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

i only watch for maya rudolph and chris parnell

_, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

SNL SUCKED IN THE "GOLDEN AGE" TOO AND I WEAR CONTACTS, HIPPIE.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

I like Fey's touch with the commercials: "Mom Jeans" "Lower-Back Tattoo Remover" etc.

and the robotic deodorizer that freshens "..my business. My LADY business."

when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

Is Trenchmouth and Mrs. GOB still on it?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

i don't think this show was ever very funny, now. except for the year lorne michaels wasn't involved.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

tracy morgan really blew it, didn't he

s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

WHERE HAVE YOU GONE SHERI OTERI?
Our nation turns it's lonely eyes to you.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

I wish that Horatio Sanz would explode onstage.

O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

and the robotic deodorizer that freshens "..my business. My LADY business."

THAT HAD ME IN TEARS.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

Basically, they've got some really talented comedic actors right now (esp. Poehler, Rudolph, Parnell, and dude who plays Bush (though his Bush imitation is pretty shitty)), but the writing and choice of topics are for shit.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

i was kinda surprised by how funny the last episode i saw was! (keep in mind i probably hadn't seen a new episode for about five years.)

strng hlkngtn: what does it mean? (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

>except for the year lorne michaels wasn't involved.<

It was a lot longer than a year; Dick Ebersol exec-produced most (or all?) of the '80s. I've seldom tuned in since Mike Myers left.

Lost its subversive nature circa 1978.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

mike myers is a fanny

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

yeah I guess I meant 80-85 actually. with the chris guest/martin short year being the highlight

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

Huk-L, what are you doing calling for Cheri Oteri? I thought you knew comedy.

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

God, she's the worst.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

no-one on this show bothers to even learn their lines anymore. the cue-card reading utterly destroys any hope of comedy.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

The Times had a thing last week about all the great characters Fred Armisen has done, but last time I was paying attention he hadn't moved much beyond Ferecito and the senile Vegas drummer, the one who hit the rimshot long after Chris Kattan had finished his punchline, said "I can't stand it!" or "Ooh, my prostate!" and moved on to the next joke.

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

maya rudolph carries that fucking show!

dan, nbc has been airing "golden era" snls on saturday nights after the new one is over -- or at least, they were during the summer -- in their entirety, sometimes with three music numbers, and it is astonishing to see the difference in ingenuity and simple variety of acting styles/pastiches they had then. it's like people were born with better brains.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

unfortunately looks like maya is about to take a little break from the show.

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

The Times had a thing last week about all the great characters Fred Armisen has done, but last time I was paying attention he hadn't moved much beyond Ferecito and the senile Vegas drummer,

He's gone way past those. The Nuni character was pretty funny the FIRST or SECOND times it was on. His Tony Danza is quite cringe worthy, in a good sort of way. And Prince suffering from an allergy attack was pretty fucking funny.

I wish that they would pick up Darryl Hammond and throw him into the dumpster. Maybe now that they've picked up a new impressionist, they'll act on that. I think ten years is a little long to be doing the same lame Trump or Chris Matthews imitations.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

God Darryl Hammond blows. How many fucking excuses can they come up with to keep having Bill Clinton in sketches for no reason?

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

And every single one of his newscaster imitations is EXACTLY THE SAME.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

Even Aaron Brown?

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

A good impressionist becomes his character and "fools" the audience not by repeating the same phrases and catchphrases. When Hammond does Schwarzeneggar for instance, all I see is a gap in the teeth, a fake Austrian accent and repeated use of ending each sentence with "...and all these things" or "...and things like that".

The new guy, however, was able to bring something remotely new to Al Pacino, someone who is frequently imitated. The THERE'S A SHITZU STUCK IN A CHARTER OAK TREE line was funny while Hammond would have just said HOO-AH 800 times.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

I don't know much about his SNL roles, but Fred Armisen is pretty fucking hilarious in his SXSW video

Zack Richardson (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

Amy Poehler's performances are great.

Will Forte is underrated. His appearences back I think when he wasn't even a regular castmember as Tim Calhoun were amazing. It reads funny, but it was performed even better, really slow and stilted with long pauses between sentences:

http://members.aol.com/ummmliz/home/calhoun.html

wow, this is a great website:

http://members.aol.com/ummmliz/home/forte.html

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

YES. The Tim Calhoun stuff was the funniest stuff on SNL in AGES. I think it helped that it was quiet instead of LOUD AND OBNOXIOUS.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

Actually, Fred Armisen doing a Parrot is the funniest thing I have seen on TV in months.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

>"golden era" snls ...it is astonishing to see the difference in ingenuity and simple variety of acting styles/pastiches they had then. it's like people were born with better brains.<

It was written and staffed by Lampoon and Second City people then, after all, not careerists trying to develop lowbrow characters for spinoff movies.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

I read they're going to have those Lonely Island guys writing soon and one of them's going to be on the cast too, which sounds like a good idea.

Dan I., Tuesday, 4 October 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

Actually, Fred Armisen doing a Parrot is the funniest thing I have seen on TV in months.
Did the parrot say "I'm Brian Fellowes"?

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

Mike Myers & Kanye West on SNL

kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

The entire introduction of Kanye had me in TEARS. Easily the funniest thing Mike Myers has done in years.

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

Kayne mouthing Mike's lines had me in TEARS of a different variety.

kurt broder (dr g), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

oh god, how did I forget the myers/kanye thing? i'm losing my mind

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 10:50 (twenty years ago)

The “all black guys = Kenan” thing’s dead, stop reanimating it.

the noise dudes write this now?

N_RQ, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

I read they're going to have those Lonely Island guys writing soon and one of them's going to be on the cast too, which sounds like a good idea.

-- Dan I. (w1nt3rmut...), October 4th, 2005 3:55 PM. (later) (link)

Andy Sambourg is in the cast now. I didn't catch if the other guys were writers, though.

a picture of a fat girl hugging Rick Perry, awesome (Matt Chesnut), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

The Short/Guest/Shearer season def was a decent one, but it also revived Billy Crystal's career, so...

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...
Alright, I gotta admit that this is pretty hilarious...

http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewTVSeason?id=111067020
http://www.youtube.com/watch.php?v=zLElfJ9YCh0

Aaron W (Aaron W), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 03:46 (nineteen years ago)

i am surprised "lazy sunday" has not been brought up until now! i am gonna marry andy samberg one of these days. mark my words.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 03:49 (nineteen years ago)

We talked about it on the Neil Young SNL thread on ILM actually! It definitely was a sketch that had me in tears. The 4 new featured players regularly outshine the rest of the entire cast, mainly because it's been so long since the show has had any new blood.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 05:24 (nineteen years ago)

worst target girl sketch yet

Mordy, Sunday, 15 January 2012 04:46 (thirteen years ago)

fuck SNL

billstevejim, Sunday, 15 January 2012 04:49 (thirteen years ago)

jason sudeikis as ricky gervais is so perfect

occupy mobb deep (some dude), Sunday, 15 January 2012 04:51 (thirteen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Brittain out

Nicole, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:20 (thirteen years ago)

Thats too bad, he was really growing on me this season. I loved his Little Lord sketches. But something doesn't scan between "effective immediately" and "parted amicably".

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:21 (thirteen years ago)

It seems like cast members only "leave" mid-season if they seriously fuck up on the air or otherwise piss off Lorne Michaels (I believe Norm MacDonald did both). Theoretically, Brittain could've gotten offered something he couldn't turn down, but realistically, what're the odds that Paul Brittain is getting insane unturndownable offers?

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:25 (thirteen years ago)

Exactly.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:26 (thirteen years ago)

First time I saw his Ron Paul, I wasn't sure which cast member it was. That's how underutilized he was.

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls2ncysXrA1qz79iao1_500.png

Hawaiian mime montage (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:48 (thirteen years ago)

“Sex” Ed Vincent nooooooooo

Critique of Pure Moods (goole), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

Aw, too bad -- there goes my one degree of separation from SNL.

jaymc, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 16:58 (thirteen years ago)

every once in a while i check in on this thread just to make sure snl is still not funny

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:35 (thirteen years ago)

Well, whatever relieves you of the burden of forming your own opinions.

SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 17:47 (thirteen years ago)

also, every once in a while i watch 5 minutes of snl just to make sure snl is still not funny

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

Too bad. It seemed like he was finally starting to get more screen time, as well as a couple leads in sketches. I wonder if this means Jay will get some more screen time. Taran and Vanessa seem to be heading straight to full-time cast members by next year.

Michael F Gill, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 01:18 (thirteen years ago)

It seems like cast members only "leave" mid-season if they seriously fuck up on the air or otherwise piss off Lorne Michaels (I believe Norm MacDonald did both).

it's extremely common knowledge that he did neither!

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 01:32 (thirteen years ago)

Norm? Yeah, he didn't piss off Lorne, rather one of the NBC execs that was friends with OJ Simpson and got sick of the jabs on Weekend Update. But that may have been in reference to the F-bomb Norm dropped on air that a lot of people still seem to think he got fired for.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 01:50 (thirteen years ago)

have we ever done a weekend updater poll? and did someone who wasn't norm mcdonald win? if so, FUCK YOU.

hhhhhh Bill I juste like ertronic thinges (NZA), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 02:51 (thirteen years ago)

how do you get so preemptively angry about something that doesn't exist

lana del rey: everythang's workin' (some dude), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 02:53 (thirteen years ago)

i was trying to imitate norm mcdonald's voice

hhhhhh Bill I juste like ertronic thinges (NZA), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 02:55 (thirteen years ago)

Norm? Yeah, he didn't piss off Lorne, rather one of the NBC execs that was friends with OJ Simpson and got sick of the jabs on Weekend Update. But that may have been in reference to the F-bomb Norm dropped on air that a lot of people still seem to think he got fired for.

I stand corrected on Lorne/Norm, but yeah, I was also thinking of when he said "fuck" on the air, which probably didn't help.

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 03:00 (thirteen years ago)

one year passes...

!

https://twitter.com/SteveMartinToGo/status/310161621832056832/photo/1

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 March 2013 23:32 (twelve years ago)

six months pass...

that picture is amazing

i was just coming here to post that very early 80s SNL is sooo terrible. why have i never heard about this era as a dark age for the show? it's srsly painful to watch. during update, people in the audience laughed at almost none of the jokes! i'm surprised that the show didn't die around that time.

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Thursday, 26 September 2013 10:10 (twelve years ago)

though obv i's not like i've heard about it as a golden age, either. just never heard people talking about how bad it was. apparently it was nearly cancelled in 81?

gilbert gottfried talking in a normal voice, tho

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Thursday, 26 September 2013 10:19 (twelve years ago)

that's the piscopo years i guess?

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 26 September 2013 10:35 (twelve years ago)

yeah. murphy too, but he's not really being used yet

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Thursday, 26 September 2013 10:44 (twelve years ago)

Jean doumain iirc. There was at least one time in the 80s (and a second time either in the 80s or 90s) where almost all of the cast was scrapped except maybe one or two people

The time when Janeane Garofalo was on was also notoriously unfunny; there's a Wizard of Oz sketch w SJP floating around, maybe on YouTube, that might actually be the most awkwardly unfunny thing they have ever aired

Tetsu: The Inoue Man (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 26 September 2013 11:12 (twelve years ago)

Though otoh the season where almost everyone got fired has one of the show's best episodes where Francis Ford Coppola "directs" it and keeps trying to call "CUT!!" in the middle of sketches and there's a lot of self reference abt how bad their own show is and then everyone dies in a fire at the end, not jk

Tetsu: The Inoue Man (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 26 September 2013 11:14 (twelve years ago)

Also Oprah hosted an episode in the 80's!!

Tetsu: The Inoue Man (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 26 September 2013 11:15 (twelve years ago)

The final sketch of the 11th season: "... in the final sketch, Billy Martin is shown dumping gasoline around the studio and then setting it on fire. The entire cast is shown to be trapped in a room as a parody of TV show cliffhangers. Credits rolled with question marks on each name, signaling that the viewer didn't know which cast members would be returning the next season. Cast members were angered by an ending added to the sketch, in which Michaels has the opportunity to rescue the cast from the fire, but chooses to save only Lovitz."

Lovitz, Nora Dunn and Dennis Miller actually returned for the 12th season.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 26 September 2013 15:22 (twelve years ago)

it seems like a lot of the 1980 stuff was self-referential about how much they sucked. like, a majority of it! the very first sketch of the season does that. it gets pretty old.

nearly everyone was fired from the 1980 cast when charlie rocket let "fuck" slip, apparently. i didn't know that he killed himself until i was looking stuff up about this incident.

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Thursday, 26 September 2013 18:52 (twelve years ago)

Saturday Night Live

curmudgeon, Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:28 (twelve years ago)

oops

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:37 (twelve years ago)

five years pass...

Thirty years ago today, the great Gilda Radner died. She was beautiful and gifted and funny. Eternal love. pic.twitter.com/CiXniXilSd

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) May 20, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 May 2019 15:54 (six years ago)

Love Gilda is fantastic. I wept.

Tiltin' My Lens Photography (stevie), Monday, 20 May 2019 15:56 (six years ago)

As I get older it gets clearer she was the best of the original cast. That sketch where she plays the little kid who keeps jumping off the bed into her wall is just so perfect.

Tiltin' My Lens Photography (stevie), Monday, 20 May 2019 15:57 (six years ago)

three years pass...

is sarah squirm funny or not? i'm confused by her.

treeship., Tuesday, 15 November 2022 01:47 (three years ago)

she seems to enjoy her own humor immensely which signals to audiences that it must be incredibly amusing and they respond positively to that because they want very much to participate in the good time she's obviously having. that's probably a lot of what's confusing you.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 01:55 (three years ago)

the body horror comedy she did before snl was pretty out there -- a little too off-putting for me, but i am wondering if anyone on ilx is a fan

treeship., Tuesday, 15 November 2022 02:12 (three years ago)

I was a fan pre snl and and was astonished that she made it into the cast. I don’t watch regularly but have enjoyed a lot of the snl stuff of hers that I’ve seen. Anything that makes the show weirder is good for the show imo, as is anyone outside the mode of “forgettable milquetoast standup” types that seem to dominate the cast these days

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 02:39 (three years ago)

I HATE don’t stop believing or whatever they’re called

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 02:56 (three years ago)

The video skit crew

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 02:56 (three years ago)

The video skit crew

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 02:56 (three years ago)

^^Please Don't Destroy

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 03:28 (three years ago)

yeah they are fine, and sarah sherman is the funniest person in the cast. IMO she is a future legend.

akm, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 04:59 (three years ago)

don't care for her. she insists upon herself.

made entirely of styrofoam (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 19 November 2022 10:31 (three years ago)

She just says stuff really loud?

kurt schwitterz, Saturday, 19 November 2022 10:32 (three years ago)

one year passes...

lol, this has you guys written all over it. you can't wait, admit it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ9O_tl5Npk

scott seward, Thursday, 8 August 2024 19:17 (one year ago)

and by you guys i mean everyone except me. these things make me cringe. its mrs. parker and the vicious circle all over again.

scott seward, Thursday, 8 August 2024 19:18 (one year ago)

Dude: Saturday Night Live

Charlie Hair (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 8 August 2024 19:22 (one year ago)

i searched for that i forgot it wasn't shortened.

scott seward, Thursday, 8 August 2024 20:29 (one year ago)


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