Whitehouse Denies Bush "God told me to invade iraq" Claim

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The White House has dismissed as "absurd" allegations made in a BBC TV series that President Bush claimed God told him to invade Iraq.
"He's never made such comments," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said.
The comments were attributed to Mr Bush by the Palestinian negotiator Nabil Shaath in the upcoming TV series Elusive Peace: Israel and the Arabs.
Mr Shaath said that in a 2003 meeting with Mr Bush, the US president said he was "driven with a mission from God".
Holy war?
"President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan. And I did, and then God would tell me, George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq... And I did.
"'And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East. And by God I'm gonna do it.'"
Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas, who attended the meeting in June 2003 too, also appears on the documentary series to recount how Mr Bush told him: "I have a moral and religious obligation. So I will get you a Palestinian state."
The TV series charts recent attempts to bring peace to the Middle East, from former US President Bill Clinton's peace talks in 1999-2000 to Israel's withdrawal from the Gaza Strip this year.
It seeks to uncover what happened behind closed doors by speaking to presidents and prime ministers, along with their generals and ministers.
Israel and the Arabs: Elusive Peace will be broadcast on BBC Two on Monday 10, 17 and 24 October at 2100 BST.

Will this mean more BBC is anti-american claims from government ministers?

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Friday, 7 October 2005 00:11 (twenty years ago)

Why is it anti-american to claim Bush said in meetings with Palestinians the same thing he says in public speeches to Americans?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 7 October 2005 02:06 (twenty years ago)

In this case I think the White House is right. It is pretty absurd to think that God actually talked to Bush and told him to invade some sovereign countries...

― wmlynch (wlynch), Friday, 7 October 2005 04:21 (twenty years ago)

uhm, what? Dude has mentioned before that God talks to him...

― kingfish superman ice cream (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 7 October 2005 04:22 (twenty years ago)

And even if it's not true, one Palestinian being interviewed CLAIMS that Bush said this; it's not the BBC boldly stating it as fact. Though that won't stop the PNAC Neocon fox news fruitcakes from complaining about the evil terrorist-loving pinkos who infest Auntie, and the Sun going on a little rant about how this proves we shouls scrap the licence fee and give all the money to those lovely people at Sky.

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:45 (twenty years ago)

Oh, whoops, sorry, I didn't see this thread before starting the other one. Feel free to delete mine.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 06:43 (twenty years ago)

OK, I've found the Indie article online:

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article317805.ece

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 06:45 (twenty years ago)

When all else fails, blame a deity.

― Hotman Paris Almanac (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 7 October 2005 06:50 (twenty years ago)

Shit I thought wmlynch was nickalish for a moment. but it isnt. IM CONFUSED.

― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 7 October 2005 06:54 (twenty years ago)

You know, if I walked up to my cigar-smoking boss, punched him in the face, and then said "God told me to do it" I'd be in the locked ward of St. George's faster than you could say Paranoid Schitzophrenic.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 06:54 (twenty years ago)

http://www.blue-underground.com/images/imgcache/35ed34b91e4bef5f7ed0b1eebc8e773b.jpg

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 06:58 (twenty years ago)

I'd be in the locked ward of St. George's

Based on the current number of escapes, I don't think they actually lock anyone in...

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Friday, 7 October 2005 07:12 (twenty years ago)

Fancy becoming the 1st female president of the US, Kate?
What would you do with all that power?

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Friday, 7 October 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

free cookies for all?

― g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 7 October 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)

Oh, but watch out world when she has a cranky day!

― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 7 October 2005 09:36 (twenty years ago)

Spacemen 3 made to be friends again?

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Friday, 7 October 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

http://www.susanlawly.freeuk.com/picturefiles/wholdbailey.jpg

"He's never made such comments"

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 7 October 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

What has Paul Whitehouse got to do with this?

― Pete (Pete), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

I couldn't be president of the US, I wasn't born there. Prime Minister, however... especially if I get to use Mrs. Thatcher's boy-scouting secret service. (At least this is what my brother claimed, however I think he had the hots for her. But then again, my brother is, like, the archetypical Cute Tory Boy.)

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:41 (twenty years ago)

Heh, I mean a secret service that scouts for boys, not a secret service made from Boy Scouts. However, if god was talking to me, he might tell me to surround myself with boyscouts.

Any minute now, this will turn into Tudor ILX so I will stop now.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)

Who would be in your cabinet?

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Friday, 7 October 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)

Do you want serious political answers, or do you want jokey ILX answers like "Mark S for Minister of Transport to get those floating platform busses in operation, Ed for Minister of Energy and the Environment to put up windmills and implement chip-oil running cars, RickyT for minister of ~~Science~~ MATHEMATICS!!!" etc?

(And yes, my cabinet would be all attractive men. What can I make RGJ? Chancellor of the Exchequedjacketsor?)

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

Maybe this is why I shouldn't participate in political threads, because they turn jokey and in-referncey too quickly?

(Also, I think I have just solved my Halloween costume dilemma.)

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 11:12 (twenty years ago)

Since no one apears to be interested in this thread I think jokey answers might be in order for now.

RJG can be minister for Art(As Copied By Jack Vettriano

― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Friday, 7 October 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)

this man is crazy or just getting dumber, he might aswell have said aliens spoke to him or the devil made him do it. both are more likely. a chistian god told him to do things that in no way collerate to the teachings of his religion, boy was sleeping in R.E.

― TREVER, Friday, 7 October 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

collerate? Don't worry. I'm sure the devil made you write that.

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 7 October 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

lol, my spellins n grammer is probly better than your president.

― ttttt, Friday, 7 October 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

Funny cartoon here:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons/davidaustin/archive/0,14919,1275290,00.html

― chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Friday, 7 October 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000581H/qid=1128698666/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-9365489-9577630?v=glance&s=music&n=507846

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 7 October 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

lol, my spellins n grammer is probly better than your president.

This is so true, it's not even funny. Almost anything is better than our President.

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 7 October 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

You are a hoot. TREVER read the old testament. You have to know what the teachings of the Christian religion are to know what can "collerate" with them. The Christian God has punished sinners and destroyed much more than any nation or president. The Christian religion teaches that God is just, but everyone is sinful and deserves punishment.

I am in no way talking about what Bush does or did.

― A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 7 October 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

The fuck? What does The Old Testament have to do with Christianity?

― Masked Gazza, Friday, 7 October 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

Oh, God! Do we have to do this again? Listen, Gazza, without the OT, there would hardly be any sex at all in the Bible so they had to add it on for sales.

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 7 October 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

do you want serious political answers, do you want jokey ILX answers, or do you want religious truths?

― A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

All three in one bullshit paragraph please.

― Masked Gazza, Friday, 7 October 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

I'm outta here.

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

http://www.logosik.pl/images/9873347.jpg

― A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

i said christian god, the old testament was writen before the teachings of christ.

― tt, Friday, 7 October 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

nevermind, forget it.

― ttttttttttttttttt, Friday, 7 October 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

Everytime I see Crazy Frog, I think of Amy Poehler.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Friday, 7 October 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

The Christian religion teaches that God is just, but everyone is sinful and deserves punishment.

The BDSM version of Christianity, possibly.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 7 October 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

I understand the point you were trying to make, TREVER.

― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

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