Who will be first against the wall come your own personal revolution?

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Following the scenes in Brixton last night, I'm going for anyone who thinks Pete Doherty is big and clever. What about you?

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 05:52 (twenty years ago)

People who actually express anger that homeless people ask them for money.

― Hurting (Hurting), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 05:54 (twenty years ago)

whoever posted this dumb butt thread

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 05:54 (twenty years ago)

ESTEBAN BUTTEZ

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 05:54 (twenty years ago)

A total jerk called Rodney. Boy do I ever hate that guy.

― rainy (rainy), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 05:55 (twenty years ago)

ESTEBAN BUTTEZ

i wont be against the wall because i will be off the wall like michael jackson (but not kiddy fiddling like wacko jacko)

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 05:57 (twenty years ago)

too late, you said you want to be in a molestation foundation with michael jackson and you want to learn everything from him that he knows.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 06:17 (twenty years ago)

The Management.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 06:18 (twenty years ago)

Me.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 06:27 (twenty years ago)

People who make noise - drivers of cars with loud exhausts/loud music, motorcyclists, people who shout in the street etc.

I want to make the world a more peaceful place.

― Rumpie, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 06:38 (twenty years ago)

So you want to make the place more peaceful by shooting people? ;-)

― nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 06:40 (twenty years ago)

The thread only specified "against the wall." She might want to pee on them.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 06:41 (twenty years ago)

"Here come the warm jets!" ;-) Actually she couldn't do that, only men can pee against people who're against a wall.

― nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 06:42 (twenty years ago)

If they are seated she could come and squat on them for a number one/two deal!

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 06:44 (twenty years ago)

Except some of them might enjoy that...

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 06:44 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, of course, didn't think of that option. :-)

― nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 06:46 (twenty years ago)

My personal revolution is going to involve going to pilates classes and cooking more food from scratch, so I don't think there'll be any bloodshed.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)

I'm going to ban guns in favour of bows and arrows too.

― Rumpie, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 06:56 (twenty years ago)

the red hot fucking chili peppers

and all their dumbshit fans

and people who drive around london in cars on their own

twats

we're better off without them

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 06:57 (twenty years ago)

i wish i could find a way to say "greedy politicians" without sounding like a college student dipshit.

― glasgow coma score (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 06:59 (twenty years ago)

I used to be a Chilis fan - will I be spared?

― Rumpie, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 06:59 (twenty years ago)

yes, you have seen the error of your ways. i hope you burned all their records and any t-shirts and assorted paraphernalia you may have accumulated. (you may be asked to prove this.)

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:03 (twenty years ago)

Why shouldn't people drive around London on their own if they want to?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:06 (twenty years ago)

Little old ladies who block supermarket aisles while they stand there gossipping.

People who let their screaming, badly-behaved toddlers run around in restaurants/pubs.

TV presenters who shout.

― C J (C J), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:07 (twenty years ago)

Why shouldn't people drive around London on their own if they want to?

Because it means nobody else can, for one thing. Sit in solid traffic on the A4 for two hours on a Friday evening and count how many of the cars slowly shuffling westward have only one person in them. It's frightening.

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:09 (twenty years ago)

I used to commute from Oxford and am well aware of the Savoy Circus-Hanger Lane log jams at rush hour time. Funny how these jams seem to vanish during school holidays.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:12 (twenty years ago)

use one tube train?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:13 (twenty years ago)

Mr Brown, my old DT teacher.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:16 (twenty years ago)

yes what sunshine said. selfish fucks. sure, it's lots of FUN zipping past all the stupid selfish fucks killing themselves in their cars listening to magic fm or keane going absolutely fucking nowhere, but i'd prefer it if, well, if they just weren't such selfish fucks. (obv i am not talking about people who are disabled and can't get around any other way... public transport provision for the disabled in london is absolutely fucking appalling.)

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:17 (twenty years ago)

(what scenes in brixton, btw? i am going there in ten minutes.)

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:19 (twenty years ago)

Well they have changed the buses so that disabled people can access them more easily so you can't say they're doing nothing about it. Unfortunately there's not a lot you can do about four selfish mothers who block up the bus with four king-sized buggies and 20 bags of shopping apiece so that no one can get on it even though it's 100% empty upstairs there I've had my moan.

Personally, if I could drive I'd definitely opt for sitting in my own car where I can listen to what I want and control my environment, as opposed to having to bundle up against smelly, ugly and mentally disturbed public transport passengers who take up two seats apiece with their stupid dick-airing stance, and then I also have to be subjected to their shit taste in music courtesy of their Walkmans/mobiles. Nobody who listens to Walkmans or mobiles on public transport has good taste in music. This is demonstrable fact.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:22 (twenty years ago)

Before the Baby Shambles gig there last night, everyone's favourite house-breaking junkie, blood streaming from nose, leant out of the window of his dressing room and threw beer and bog roll all over the queing masses below.

And they all cheered and said what a GREAT GUY he was. Then one tried to cimb up the side of the building to get to him, and afterwards two more tried to stow away in his bus.

Cos he's the man, see?

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:24 (twenty years ago)

"if I could drive I'd definitely opt for sitting in my own car where I can listen to what I want and control my environment,"

Fine, but you can still share your car with other people going the same way, thus reducing congestion.

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:25 (twenty years ago)

Dom you got scammed by Mr Brown. The DTs don't need to be taught, they're pretty easy to figure out all by yourself after a solid week or so of gin binging.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:27 (twenty years ago)

(xp)

I don't want to share with other people unless I know them. Explain to me why I should expect to have strangers IN MY OWN CAR, other than getting carjacked on the White City sliproad.

As I intimated above, if you abolished schools and the stupid outmoded Victorian 9-to-5 working day syndrome, there wouldn't be a problem with congestion. And if Livingstone's stupid congestion charge extension goes through, as it will, then that will simply drive more traffic onto the A40 and M4 and make the situation a whole lot worse.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:30 (twenty years ago)

The Federal Member for Bennelong, Hon. John Winston Howard MP.
Or Rupert Murdoch.
(Whichever is on top)

― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:31 (twenty years ago)

litterbugs, there's just no fucking excuse

― Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:46 (twenty years ago)

no bins in the street 'cos the council's scared of terrorists?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:49 (twenty years ago)

People who don't say THANK YOU.

― Rumpie, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 07:52 (twenty years ago)

Queue jumpers. People who listen to stereos on public transport without headphones, or with their headphones turned up so loud that the whole bus has to listen to their music. Also what Emsk said about the "one person in their car" in London. Whatever fuX0rs are running the trains so we don't get more than 2 an hour, even at rush hour. People who drive in bus lanes - especially the ones who are actually taking up *two* lanes by not driving carefully and holding up busses, even while they're technically not even in the bus lane.

OK, I have to stop because I'm getting wound up again.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:02 (twenty years ago)

LONDON IS NOT A CUTESY WUTESY CUDDLY WUDDLY ICKLE WICKLE PLAYGROUND IT'S LONDON IT'S AS HARD AS IT GETS YOU DON'T LIKE GET ONE TICKET TO DURHAM OR YORK OR STOW ON THE WOLD end of message

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:06 (twenty years ago)

pedestrians who press the little green man button at the traffic lights and then cross without waiting until the light actually changes for them. i am very happy to stop for people who actually want to cross while the cars are stopped at the red lights. however if you can't wait for the lights to change to the little green man, why do you inflict a pointless wait on the drivers? don't press the button!

― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

Mostly because, at least in London, cars don't take any notice of traffic lights either and drive straight through when it's red.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:08 (twenty years ago)

oh. well we have cameras that catch you doing that here so you're compelled to stop at the lights or cop a big fine and demerit points.

― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:09 (twenty years ago)

plus i would never drive through a red light anyway! that's not safe driving behaviour.

― gem (trisk), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:09 (twenty years ago)

Didn't Bill Hicks do a routine about why it is that the last driver to notice that the lights have changed is always the car at the front?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:10 (twenty years ago)

Many many people. i'd need lots of bullets as i never forget those who’ve made me cross.

My favourite word is revenge.

― not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)

Are you Osama Bin-Laden?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)

no, just a friend of.

― not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

The editorship of the Daily Express is yours for the asking.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

litterbugs, there's just no fucking excuse

yeah i saw some cunt chucking stuff everywhere out of his pocket on the way to work and was gonna add that.

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

My bank. Rude lying fucks.

I mean that's not really a person, but still. I resent them more and more in new ways each day.

― sgs (sgs), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

I find Emsk's rationales sound. (I would however spare John Frusciante.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

Drivers who honk when they're coming up behind cyclists or runners. EVIL. Also, people who talk about taxation in terms of "what the government stole from me this time."

― Maria (Maria), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

CHRIS MOYLES
DUBYA

and all right-winGers who are only right wing because they HAVEN'T EVEN GIVEN THE MATTER ANY FUCKING THOUGHT WHATSOEVER.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

THE LORD GOD HIMSELF the fucker

― Philip Pullman (gcannon), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

Offing God would be interesting...But you'd only have to go and do it again three days later.

― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

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― strng hlkngtn: what does it mean? (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

Old rich white guys would be a nice start.

― recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

Explain to me why I should expect to have strangers IN MY OWN CAR

Because with a decent car-sharing scheme you can expect strangers to take you where you want to go in return? On a purely economic level it's outrageous to have so much energy used on so much wasted capacity - it's not just about reducing congestion. Car ownership as a symbol of our independence, control and individuality is a joke - it's generally a representation of societal stupidity, selfishness and lack of imagination.

― angle of d... (tingo), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

ile
-- strng hlkngtn: what does it mean? (wt...), October 12th, 2005. (later)
Old rich white guys would be a nice start.

-- recovering optimist (christbaitrisin...), October 12th, 2005. (later)

In forty years time the second category will probably control the first, so two at once.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

haha most days i'd like to start with young rich white guys

― geoff (gcannon), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

Young poor white guys aren't so great either.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

Killing all the white male children as they're born, although morally reprehensible, would solve that problem.

― when something smacks of something (dave225.3), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

My last two bosses.

― Lion-O (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

Everyone, really.

I'd like to be like Burgess Meredith in that Twilight Zone episode, except without the broken glasses bit.

― O'so Krispie (Ex Leon), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

TIME WARNER CABLE

― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

Explain to me why I should expect to have strangers IN MY OWN CAR

Bollocks. This is a tired argument and what it's really subtexting is "I'm envious because other people have independent means of transport wherein they can do what they like whereas I'm stuck on a packed train/tube/bus with hundreds of psychotic no-marks," i.e. "I hate these people because their life is better than mine."

"societal stupidity" and "selfishness" are oxymorons. which did you mean?

and again i have to underline the fact that I DON'T WANT TO TAKE STRANGERS ANYWHERE NOR FOR STRANGERS TO TAKE ME ANYWHERE. This is London for chrissakes, where picking up strangers usually means your body being found hacked to death in a clearing somewhere near Epping Forest.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)

"this is a tired argument and what it's really subtexting is "I'm envious because other people have independent means of transport wherein they can do what they like whereas I'm stuck on a packed train/tube/bus with hundreds of psychotic no-marks,"

Actually I tend to think it while sat in a car with a couple of mates wondering why everyone who lives in Reading but works in London has to drive on their own in a fuck-off big Jaguar or 4x4 when half of them probably know each other anyway.

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Thursday, 13 October 2005 07:23 (twenty years ago)

Because, believe it or not, some of us actually like to have some portion of the average working day to ourselves?

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 07:35 (twenty years ago)

Rupert Murdoch

People who drive SUVs

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 13 October 2005 07:41 (twenty years ago)

I dont drive by choice, and I dont ever, at all, think "I hate these people cos their life is better than mine". I like taking the tram - I still get time to myself to write/read/stare out the window and I'm not:
- polluting
- clogging up the road
- getting stressed out from driving

Also I get exercise walking to and from the stops. Sense, innit. Melbournes a lovely city, why not enjoy a stroll? Some peeps.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 13 October 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

Tsar Nicholas II.... no, hold on....

― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 13 October 2005 07:58 (twenty years ago)

Yes, well, Trayce, Melbourne isn't London.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

With all due respect, Trayce, Melbourne isn't London.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

FUCKING STUPID ILX SERVER

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

it's ok, you were right both times.

re: car sharing/strangers etc, if you enrol in a carshare scheme, you may be surprised at how quickly the "strangers" you travel with, day in, day out, cease to be strangers and turn out to be either a. nice people you wouldn't otherwise have met, or b. nice people you have something in common with. no fucker talks on the tube/bus in london anyway - then again, on my way to work i never want to talk to anyone, regardless of my form of transport - i'm too busy waking up.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 13 October 2005 08:41 (twenty years ago)

i find it hard to believe i'm the first to say jimmy carr.

― N_RQ, Thursday, 13 October 2005 08:44 (twenty years ago)

Well I don't want to talk to anyone either on my way to work or on my way back home, not even to people I know (not that there's much chance of that on my route). Anyway I don't want fucking strangers in my car, friendly or not, cease to be strangers or not cease to be strangers, end of story.

This is of course all hypothetical as I cannot drive. I'd walk to and from work if I could, but you know, Streatham to East Acton and back...I'm not 24 anymore...

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 08:44 (twenty years ago)

This is of course all hypothetical as I cannot drive.

!!!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 13 October 2005 08:48 (twenty years ago)

I did point that out several dozen posts above.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 08:49 (twenty years ago)

did you ever pass your test mc? i never took mine.

― N_RQ, Thursday, 13 October 2005 08:50 (twenty years ago)

Laura passed her test about nine months before she died. I was banned from even learning to drive because L was afraid that I'd cause multiple fatal pile-ups on Junction 6 of the A40 on a daily basis. She was going to do the driving, and then life happened :-(

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)

I sat my driving test once and failed due to ennui

― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 13 October 2005 08:56 (twenty years ago)

You should have used Castrol instead thank you very much ladies and gentlemen my name is Billy Dainty are your oysters parked nicely goodnight.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 08:58 (twenty years ago)

I consider that last post a major contribution to road safety

― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)

The problem with car sharing is that no matter how nice the people you share with are, you just don't often WANT to be in close proximity with anyone first thing in the morning (or after a long hard day's work), and social pressures and whatever make in-car etiquette a matter of potentailly huge embarassment and/or misundertsanding.

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)

otm

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)

Let's go back to cutting the hands off of litterbugs. I liked that better.

― Paranoid Spice (kate), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

it's funny, i don't really mind the proximity factor on a bus cos you're not supposed to talk to people, but in a car, it's awkward if you don't. i wdn't want to share, if i had a car, but i can't even drive, and wouldn't be able to afford to even if i could (what is the conjestion charge now?).

― N_RQ, Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

let's see - people get blown up on tube trains and we're supposed to feel sympathy for the bombers. people drop litter in the street and we're supposed to cut their hands off.

something's wrong here somewhere.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, that reminds me of that story in the Kenneth Williams' Diaries. about a that car was stopped at some traffic lights in Bury St. Edmonds, and the woman passenger rolled down the window and threw out an empty fag packet and old lady who was passing stopped and gave it back to the passenger, "I threw it away because I don't need it" said the woman, "Neither does Bury St. Edmonds" said the old lady.

― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)

what did pete doherty do in brix then?

― N_RQ, Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)

I took the theoretical test. Then I had driving lessons but either excelled or failed miserably depending on the teacher. I realized this was a warning I should not take my test. Once one of the teachers asked: "Did you check for cyclists?" Oops, no. I think I would do alright now, but why should I have a DL? It's not as if I need it: the shop is across the street from our house! Other than that I don't really go anywhere where I can only go by car. Sometimes it's difficult - for example, we have to get some things for the baby room so how do we arrange transport - but the expense is ridiculous.

― nathalie, a bum like you (stevie nixed), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)

With all due respect, Trayce, Melbourne isn't London.

Yah fair call, there.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)

I wasnt meaning to boast or nowt anyway. Theres times where non-driving me (Ive never had my licence beyond Ls either and Im 34) gets annoying - I canne pop into Ikea for a new table, for eg. Or suddenly zip off for a relaxing trip down to the Great Ocean Road (and that IS annoying).

But I made my choice.. Im terrified of driving! I'm terrified enough being driven to be honest. I have a weird neurosis about lack of control being in a car.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:17 (twenty years ago)

I will exhume the body of Richard Nixon and put it up against the wall. After which I may hang it upside down from a lamppost, in the peerless style of il Duce.

Once that bit if fun is over I can really get down to cases.

― Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 13 October 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

"societal stupidity" and "selfishness" are oxymorons. which did you mean?

It's not a condradiction in terms to suggest that stupidity and selfishness can go together, is it?

― angle of d... (tingo), Thursday, 13 October 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

no, but "societal" and "selfishness" don't, unless the stupidity implies asocietal impulses, and then you get into more fundamental questions about basic human nature.

― Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Friday, 14 October 2005 05:40 (twenty years ago)

So a selfish society is impossible? Even in comparative terms?

― angle of d... (tingo), Friday, 14 October 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

Karl Rove, Ann Coulter, Pat Robertson, James Dobson, Peggy Noonan, and the inventor of the car alarm.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 15 October 2005 04:34 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

TIME WARNER CABLE
-- jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:54

― get bent, Saturday, 25 August 2007 23:07 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

is it me or has the phrase "the first against the wall" almost become a meme in the last few months?

― fwiw (rockapads), Sunday, 15 February 2009 22:48 (seventeen years ago)

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