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Anyone been? What's it like? Right cheap at the moment and I feel the need to be somewhere else.

Tag (Tag), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

it's nice, for a weekend; being quite small you may run out of things to do quite rapidly (unless you like drinking cheap beer all the time). incredibly full of westerners.

N_RQ, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

I do like drinking cheap beer all the time. I get quite enough Westerners at home, maybe they won't be there in November.

Tag (Tag), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

i went early april, it was sometimes very cold.

N_RQ, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

Cold is fine. It would be a shame if it rained all the time though.

Tag (Tag), Thursday, 13 October 2005 08:08 (twenty years ago)

it rained a bit when i was there, but it can rain anywhere, can't it?

N_RQ, Thursday, 13 October 2005 08:18 (twenty years ago)

Beautfiul City. I went in '98 and there was a big fuss because Pizza Hut had just moved in.

I think Kazimiriz is now the trendy area. The castle's great, there's a Leonardo in one of the museums and the brown, twin-towered church is a thing of beauty. Krakow managed to dodge the bombs in the second world war, which is unusual for Polish cities.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 13 October 2005 08:56 (twenty years ago)

i stayed in Kazimiriz, the slightly inaccurately named 'jewish quarter' (not a vast jewish population in poland). it does have the bars, but the town itself is small (well, the pre-soviet town).

N_RQ, Thursday, 13 October 2005 08:58 (twenty years ago)

What constitutes a "trendy area" in Krakow? How cheap is accomodation? How is the scenery round about - my Polish geography isn't great so how far are the mountains, Zakopane etc?

I'm not going to be darkening the doors of Pizza Hut, I'll be on an artery-hardening diet of pierogies.

Tag (Tag), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

one notable thing there: the prevalence of kebabs. seriously *everybody* eats them. the locals, i mean. we did too, eventually. 'trendy' = bar plays mid-nineties trip hop. i didn't leave the city. the hotel was cheap and really good, dunno how much, but cheap.

N_RQ, Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

lovely city

hostel was disgusting and it rained, a lot, though

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:40 (twenty years ago)

There is one FANTASTIC peasant food restaurant you must go to, just off the big market square, I will try and find details, it'll be in the guidebooks tho.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:52 (twenty years ago)

i tried to go there, but all the peasants were stkinking it out...

N_RQ, Thursday, 13 October 2005 09:53 (twenty years ago)

It's Chlopskie Jadlo, which turns out to be a chain of sorts, but I think it's a chain in the same way the Sri Krishna restaurants in Tooting are i.e. family business becomes successful and renowned enough to expand. Anyway whatever it is it's delicious and friendly. We also went to a 'surrealist restaurant' which I forget the name of, and lots of bars and nice little art shops/galleries on Kazimirz.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)

Mmmm...

Apparently Chlopskie Jadlo seats people in "cosy sleighs". I am intruiged.

Tag (Tag), Thursday, 13 October 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
So, I'm off on Friday, staying with travelling companion's grandmother who can't speak a word of English. That should be interesting. Forecast is for snow. Last request for advice?

Tag (Tag), Monday, 21 November 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

Use sign language and grin a lot.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 21 November 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

theres a really good pierogi place within the main old centre, but unfortunately, i cant remember the street name. thats helpful. on the main bit where everyone walks down and shops, leading down to the main square (>!>! this is friggin useless advice! i was only there 3 days mind, in feb, so go easy), theres a georgian khatchapuri bar, where you can get decentish khatchapuri (cheesey bread stuff, only more so).

also, its a lovely lovely city. go to nova huta if you can, if you want to see what building an enourmous steel works next to a beautiful old city does to it.

the castle is definately worth doing to as well.

er....theres loads of little subterranean bars but god knows where they were/are.

ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 21 November 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

theres a really good pierogi place within the main old centre, but unfortunately, i cant remember the street name. thats helpful. on the main bit where everyone walks down and shops, leading down to the main square (>!>! this is friggin useless advice! i was only there 3 days mind, in feb, so go easy), theres a georgian khatchapuri bar, where you can get decentish khatchapuri (cheesey bread stuff, only more so).

also, its a lovely lovely city. go to nova huta if you can, if you want to see what building an enourmous steel works next to a beautiful old city does to it.

the castle is definately worth doing to as well.

er....theres loads of little subterranean bars but god knows where they were/are.


some vocab

"djenKUje" - thanks
"przhePRASham" - excuse me
"proshe" - please

maybesome of thats right. ??!! thats really gonna help eh

ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 21 November 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

"djenKUje" - thanks
"przhePRASham" - excuse me
"proshe" - please

lol -- this, other than my hotel room number (and they figgered that out after a few goes) was all i used.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 21 November 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

if you see a cafeteria with bright, kind of pop art decor then go in. amazing pierogies! and so cheap! we called it the pink elephant, i think, but i have no idea what the actual name is... ok, so this perhaps isn't so helpful.


lauren (laurenp), Monday, 21 November 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

if u see a bar playing a bunch of mid-90s trip hop, well, i was there. it's a small town, how many can there be?

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 21 November 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

TOMBOT doesnt believe in the Holocaust.

Spink, Monday, 21 November 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

Thanks all of you. I got myself a phrase book with CD. Horrible Berlitz thing. "ARE YOU READY TO LEARN POLISH!". I can only remember my p's (i.e. pierogies and pivo) and q's.

Tag (Tag), Monday, 21 November 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

I went, I saw, it conquered. I loved Krakow.

So where next? Vilnius? Riga? Bratislava? Split?

Tag (Tag), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

All wonderful places. Riga is surrounded by the worst of Soviet appartment blocks, but the old town is gorgeous. Bratislava is Prague's young nephew, Split is a Roman Palace with a layer of Communism on top and Vilnius is untouched beauty. Stay at the Shakespeare.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

Now I'm really confused. Maybe which ever has the cheapest flights.

Tag (Tag), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

TOMBOT doesnt believe in the Holocaust.
-- Spink, Monday, November 21, 2005 2:06 PM

waht??

bobby bedelia, Saturday, 26 May 2007 03:47 (eighteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

Revive...

So, I'm finally going to my namesake city - I'll be there for 5 days in the first week of June - and am mightily excited.

Any more Krakow tips?

How about cheap accommodation; any particular hostel recommendations? I was given flights as a birthday present, but need to sort out my accommodation etc. myself, and am on the cheap/poor end of the scale.

krakow, Sunday, 11 May 2008 21:16 (eighteen years ago)

I stayed in Hostel Giraffe (http://www.hostelgiraffe.com/) when I was there in 2006, and it was fantastic. Cheap, clean, awesome staff, nice big bar. It can be pretty lively and noisy though, so depends on what you want.

jng, Sunday, 11 May 2008 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

only go to bars in Kazimierz. atmosphere is better and more natives, less tourists. i used to have a very detailed guide to krakow that i wrote, might have to try to dig that shit out of old e-mails.

the table is the table, Sunday, 11 May 2008 23:22 (eighteen years ago)

I stayed in Nathan's Villa and had a brilliant time. It's a chain hostel but don't let that put you off, it's very well set up, not overlarge or impersonal and great for meeting people.

I'd recommend you a particular basement bar but I can't remember what it's called. You'll stumble across a good one eventually anyway, there are shitloads.

chap, Sunday, 11 May 2008 23:27 (eighteen years ago)

i used to have a very detailed guide to krakow that i wrote, might have to try to dig that shit out of old e-mails.

That would be great if you could the table is the table.

Both those hostels look pretty good. The colour scheme on the Hostel Giraffe is fantastic, though a bar next to the bedroom may be a downside.

I'm going to pick up a guidebook at Waterstones today, probably the Rough Guide to Poland (future proofing for when I hopefully fall in love with the place and go back to explore the rest of the country), unless anyone has other particular recommendations.
I may also have a two week stab at a few basic bits of Polish. Despite my online persona I actually know zero.

krakow, Monday, 12 May 2008 06:51 (eighteen years ago)

Oh yeah, one downside of my recommendation - I did get kicked out after four nights cos they'd booked a large chunk of it for a stag group and had to find somewhere else to stay, so I'd recommend booking for the whole duration of your stay if you go with that one.

chap, Monday, 12 May 2008 17:27 (eighteen years ago)

I've just booked myself into the above mentioned Nathan's Villa for the week. It got good write ups in the guidebooks and sounded good on the website, so in the interests of decisiveness I went for it.

I'm now working my way through my Rough Guide To Poland.

krakow, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 08:35 (eighteen years ago)

five years pass...

I thought I'd revive this old thread as I'm off to Krakow for the first time next month and would love to hear any food & drink recommendations. Plus any tips for places to buy records.

I'm in town for Unsound and staying in Kazimierz.

Barnaby, Hardly, Thursday, 12 September 2013 11:04 (twelve years ago)

You're staying in the right place for bars. Alchemia is nice. Kolanko no.6 is decent too. Singer remains one of the best despite people complaining that it's too heavily frequented by tourists - last time i was there i was the only customer and it was like being in another world. It's such a condensed district you can easily poke your head in somewhere and if you don't like the look of it, move ten yards down the road to somewhere else.

I'm awful at remembering the names of cafes but there are a few nice ones just off the central square. Zakątek is good and atmospheric. It's tough as a lot of places are closing due to high rents.

If you're after current Polish music (which i'm kind of assuming that you wouldn't be) then Empik should be ok. Otherwise, maybe Records Dillaz if it's still there. There used to be a place called High Fidelity run by a guy who would refuse to let you in to the shop, or physically eject you, if he didn't like you (but was otherwise extremely helpful) but i'm fairly sure that's gone now.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Thursday, 12 September 2013 11:42 (twelve years ago)

Thanks a lot for this, much appreciated.

I'm really hoping High Fidelity is still open, as I've heard good reports, despite the owner's rep.

This link seems to suggest someone had paid the place a visit last month, so fingers crossed...
http://www.recordjunkie.com/stores/view/389

Is it straightforward to get a train to Katowice? As that seems to hold a bit more promise on the records-front.

Barnaby, Hardly, Thursday, 12 September 2013 11:55 (twelve years ago)

I remember a very nice, cosy vodka bar called simply Wodka just off the main square. All kinds of different flavoured vodkas. Worth a visit.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 12 September 2013 11:59 (twelve years ago)

Ah nice, thanks!

Barnaby, Hardly, Thursday, 12 September 2013 12:04 (twelve years ago)

Katowice is easy to get to on the train from Krakow Glowny. Most take quite a long time, though (two and a half hours plus). You might be able to find an express one, though. Bus might be quicker but trains are probably more comfortable and nice if you aren't in a mad rush.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Thursday, 12 September 2013 12:09 (twelve years ago)

Excellent, thanks for the info.

Barnaby, Hardly, Thursday, 12 September 2013 17:11 (twelve years ago)


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