New Orleans asked for it.

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Some US Christians say Katrina was God's handiwork
16 Oct 2005 13:32:55 GMT
Source: Reuters

By Paul Simao

NEW ORLEANS, Oct 16 (Reuters) - When Hurricane Katrina slammed into New Orleans, submerging entire neighborhoods for weeks with its ferocious tidal surge, some say it was not a freak act of nature but a message from an angry God.

That's the belief of some Christians in the United States, who have been warning the Mardi Gras capital, long known for its hedonistic ways, was bucking for a good dose of divine retribution.

"There's been a black spiritual cloud over New Orleans for years," the Rev. Franklin Graham, son of influential American preacher Billy Graham, said during an appearance this month at Liberty University, a Christian school in Lynchburg, Virginia.

Saying New Orleans is a city known for Satan worship, orgies and widespread drinking and drug use, the younger Graham spoke about how some believed God was using the hurricane to spark a religious revival there.

That the death and destruction visited on residents of the city in late August could have been the product of divine intervention even found its way into the halls of government. "Maybe God's going to cleanse us," Oliver Thomas, president of the New Orleans City Council, told reporters after the storm.

For some Christians, a good cleansing would start with the saloons, gay bars and erotic dance clubs that line Bourbon Street in the city's French Quarter, which ironically was relatively unscathed by Katrina's wind and water.

It is there that tourists and locals flock when they come to town, especially during the annual Mardi Gras celebrations when public nudity and drunken revelry become staples of the historic district's street life.

Itinerant evangelists are also drawn to the quarter, although they seek stray souls rather than hook-ups and hangovers. "I'm here to spread the Gospel," said Michael Walker, who stood on Bourbon Street with a sign that read "Time is running out. Do you know Jesus?"

'APOCALYPTIC VISION'

Indeed, millions of people, particularly in the Southern Bible Belt states, believe the physical world will come to an end as the result of a supernatural event, such as those described in the Bible's Book of Revelation.

Those who embrace this Apocalyptic vision -- about 15 to 20 percent of U.S. Christians by some accounts -- have been bolstered in their beliefs by what they see as a spiritual decay in America that has lasted for decades.

From their perspective, legalized abortion, gay rights and the widespread availability of pornography are an affront to God and proof the world has descended into the darkness the Bible says is supposed to occur before the end of the world.

"Their rhetoric is that perhaps God's blessing has been removed and we can't expect to be protected," said Nancy Ammerman, a sociology professor at Boston University who has written about conservative Christians.

Indeed, some evangelicals latched onto Katrina, which hit New Orleans days before the city was to hold a "Southern Decadence" festival, as the sort of cataclysmic event the New Testament says will occur before Jesus returns to Earth.

Skeptics note Christians have been making incorrect predictions for 2,000 years about Judgment Day, including shortly before the dawn of the new millennium a few years ago.

Although most who subscribe to the idea of the world ending sooner rather than later peacefully practice their faith, there are a small number on the fringe actively working to help speed up the process, sometimes violently.

Often referred to as "Apocalyptic cults," these groups have on occasion convinced their followers to commit mass suicides in the belief that the world as they knew it was ending.

So why did God attack bible-thumping Baptist Mississipi?

andy --, Monday, 17 October 2005 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno. Ask Emmet Till.

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 17 October 2005 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yes, New Orleans asked for it, the same way Miami asked for it in the early '90s with Hurricane Andrew, the same way Galveston asked for it in 1900 with their big, catastrophic hurricane, etc. Geez. You would within that with the myriad of REAL problems this society has, from the ever-increasing inability of parents to actually parent (who want to be their children's cool friends instead of actual parents) to the way that certain people in this society are still considered to be second class citizens to the crime problems still facing us (perhaps related to concern #1 mentioned before), these evangelicals would stop moving their mouths for one moment and think about what's really been causing the harm in our society. And the whole "blame the victim" thing got old decades ago.

This Field Left Blank (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

Thank you, Dee the Virgin!

Jonothong Williamsmang (ex machina), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

"black spiritual cloud"

Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

: o

RJG (RJG), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

I asked for it.

adam (adam), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

Not really. But I may have led the hurricane on.

adam (adam), Monday, 17 October 2005 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

From Sturtle.com:

To the dozens of right-wingers who say that we brought it on ourselves; to the countless conservative Christians who believe Katrina was their god's attempt to cleans New Orleans of sodomites; please note:

The French Quarter was spared. The Faubourg Marigny was spared. The Bywater was spared. Most of Uptown was spared. These are the neighborhoods that we, the fags, dykes, and trannies of New Orleans, call home--not Lakeview, not Lake Vista, not the Lower Ninth Ward, not New Orleans East, not Arabi, not Chalmette. If god or Allah or Yahweh or whoever has it out for anyone, it would seem to be working families, immigrants (New Orleans East is home to one of the largest Vietnamese communities in the world), and the poor.

So the way I see it, either the hurricane was a random act of natural violence, or your god has really lousy aim.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 00:14 (nineteen years ago)

not to mention -- wasn't pat robertson's compound hit hard by a hurricane about a decade or so ago?!?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 00:30 (nineteen years ago)

Thank you for posting that link and quote, Michael. Also, I have to clarify something: the permissive parenting as societal ill angle I was working in my original post may seem to have come out of left field, but it's based largely on what I've seen happen in my own family, where the juvenile delinquents and general malcontents are the products of "cool" parents who try to act like their children's friends.

Thank you, Dee the Virgin!

All that (supposed) brain power you have and that's the best response you could come up with on this thread? I'm disappointed.

This Field Left Blank (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 00:40 (nineteen years ago)

Y'know, America, New Orleans was a haven for oversexual culture that the liberal elite wants to broadcast into the homes of good American christian families. But folks, God prevented that and saved America! God Bless America!

Will O'Really, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 09:48 (nineteen years ago)

i mean, dressing that way and all!

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

Unfortunately this argument is likely to be used again, since most likely targets of the Evangelical Wrathful God are on the ocean or on fault lines--the three most likely natural disasters simulated by FEMA in 02 were San Fran earthquake, NYC bomb and New Orleans hurricane. What are the chances of a natural disaster hitting the evangelical enclaves of Colorado Springs or Grand Rapids? Not high. Houston maybe, but didn't Yahweh spare them this summer? Yes He did.

Bnad (Bnad), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

Bah Gawd, King! That hurricane wasn't from God! That hurricane made a deal with the devil himself, Vince McMahon!

Good ol' Jim "JR" Ross, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

"Some US Christians"
"Some say"
"belief of some Christians"
"For some Christians"

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

some pythons eat alligators.

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

these evangelicals would stop moving their mouths for one moment

only some of them are. It seems like a lot more Paul Simaos and Richard Sturtles are moving their mouths about a lot less REAL problems.

A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

As Lakoff would point out, these folks' conception of God reflects on their own parenting style/politcal views... i.e. some times innocents get hurt in the Pursuit of Righteousness.

kingfish neopolitan sundae (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 14:20 (nineteen years ago)


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