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Noah Baumbach's roman a clef (or whatever the cinematic equivalent is) of his parents' divorce. Seen it?

I thought it was good, a few off notes -- ocasionally loses the balance between comedy and domestic trauma -- but nice performances. The major characters are all kind of obnoxious, but still sympathetic to varying degrees. Thoughts?

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 27 October 2005 22:08 (twenty years ago)

The one major thing I couldn't believe was (SPOILER) that any high school kid in 1986 could have fooled anyone into thinking that a song off The Wall was an original composition. I was in high school in 1986, and everybody knew that album. And "Hey You" was on rock radio all the time. I mean, maybe that was based on real life too, I don't know, but the movie presented it as some obscure thing that '80s teenagers wouldn't have known, and that didn't make sense.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 27 October 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

haven't seen it yet, but it's on my very short list of "theatrical features i'd pay money for," right behind good night, and good luck. (saw capote already.)

― jagged little filly (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 27 October 2005 22:11 (twenty years ago)

Capote is next on my own list.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 27 October 2005 22:12 (twenty years ago)

The one major thing I couldn't believe was (SPOILER) that any high school kid in 1986 could have fooled anyone into thinking that a song off The Wall was an original composition. I was in high school in 1986, and everybody knew that album. And "Hey You" was on rock radio all the time. I mean, maybe that was based on real life too, I don't know, but the movie presented it as some obscure thing that '80s teenagers wouldn't have known, and that didn't make sense.

if i include 9th grade (which would have been my freshman year), i started high school in 1990 (four years after '86). a very small amount of the kids in my class that year were into rock music at all (and they were metalheads).

― jagged little filly (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 27 October 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

wow that was a lot of parentheses.

― jagged little filly (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 27 October 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)

anyone like Kicking & Screaming and Mr Jealousy? I rather like the former.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 27 October 2005 23:13 (twenty years ago)

I liked K&S. Haven't seen Mr. Jealousy.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 27 October 2005 23:15 (twenty years ago)

i like both! i thought i was the only person who saw mr. jealousy.

― jagged little filly (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 27 October 2005 23:16 (twenty years ago)

i haven't seen tis movie, but it was filmed in my neighborhood.

― Special Agent Dale Koopa (orion), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:51 (twenty years ago)

There is lots of Park Slope in it.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:54 (twenty years ago)

Jesse Eisenberg kept me thinking that this was an evil version of Pete & Pete.

Good tho.

― Jimmy Mod Is The Damnation (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Sunday, 30 October 2005 03:29 (twenty years ago)

The more I think about it, the more I like it. Most of the characters are really well drawn (obvious exception is Billy Baldwin's tennis coach, but he's there as basically a running gag). But the four members of the family in particular, the way they all relate to each other, the complicated domestic geometry, there are a lot of little moments that are just very nicely done.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 30 October 2005 03:48 (twenty years ago)

Kicking & Screaming had its moments, but it suffered a bit from time & place (the dawning of the age of Kevin Smith) and a low budget (sitcomy locations, weak acting, Eric Stoltz).

― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Sunday, 30 October 2005 07:26 (twenty years ago)

I didn't like either Kicking and Screaming of the LIfe Aquatic. Will I like this? It looks better than either of them.

― kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 07:59 (twenty years ago)

I was thoroughly disappointed by this movie. There are indeed little moments that are nicely done, as gm put it, but that's about all there is. As a Brooklynite with a car I found the running riff about the lack of parking amusing.

― rasheed wallace (rasheed wallace), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

i liked this movie

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 00:15 (twenty years ago)

i want to see it but cannot persuade wifey to go

― F.R.I.E.N.D. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 00:16 (twenty years ago)

i bet it sucks

why would she not like this though?

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 00:35 (twenty years ago)

I went with mrs. L, we liked it. She pointed out some of the Museum of Natural History anachronisms. I've liked all the Noah B. that I've seen so far- I managed to catch Mr. Jealousy on cable, but there seems to be one that nobody has seen called "Eightball" or something like that- surely not based on comic book? Besides Wes A, he also reminds me of Whit Stillman, I guess what tipped me off was the Chris Eigeman connection (have you ever seen him walking around downtown Brooklyn, Jody? I haven't recently, I think he moved to LA).But Noah's distancing device is not the Newberry Award Winner into Joseph Cornell magic dioramas of the one or the Brooks Brothers cool of the other, it's a borrowed pretentious gobbledygook that the characters use which, because they fail to pull it off and show themselves to be trying too hard, makes them more vulnerable, human and real. So, I'll accept the reference to "The Mother and the Whore," which was the film that showed the soft white underbelly of the Nouvelle Vague.

― k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 03:14 (twenty years ago)

OMG, that post makes me sound just like one of the fools in these movies. It's catching!

― k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 03:48 (twenty years ago)

A.O. Scott had a good line about it being "the filet of the Sundance coming-of-age genre" or something like that.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 03:50 (twenty years ago)

(which is only funny if you've seen the movie)

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 03:58 (twenty years ago)

The title of A.O. Scott's Royal Tenenbaums review was pretty funny-"Warning: Do Not Feed Or Annoy The Woebegone Former Prodigies," or something like that.

Was I the only one who laughed out loud when he did that Jean Paul Belmondo thing from Breathless?

― k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 04:06 (twenty years ago)

That was hilarious. And then she's like, "You're calling me a bitch?" It was a great little window into their relationship.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 04:14 (twenty years ago)

It was one of the sparsely dealt out things that made that character likeable, that at a moment like that he was thinking: "Hey, this is an opportunity for the movie reference gag I've waited my whole life to do!"

― k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 04:20 (twenty years ago)

Really really, almost surprisingly, good. The scenes with Daniels' giving "dating advice" are really really uncomfortable.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 13 November 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

shame about that last scene though huh

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 13 November 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

The actual squid and the whale scene? Yeah that was a little too obvious, but whatever. The last scene with Daniels is great though!

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 13 November 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

I thought the younger kid was great- already a much better actor than either of his parents.

― k/l (Ken L), Sunday, 13 November 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

best masturbating in a library scene evah!

(I thought the 2 boys were the best thing in the movie acting-wise)

― m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 13 November 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

yeah, the actual squid and the actual whale... i mean come on. very "worst tendencies of wes anderson" way to end the movie

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 13 November 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

That was weak yeah; he'd already spelled out the whole squid and whale thing with the shrink, didn't need to actually show it. Would've been much better to just end with him walking out of the hospital. Didn't ruin anything for me, though.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 13 November 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

this hit ~~a little~~ a lot too close to home. it was home.

not the divorce stuff, but everything else.

― mimi in st. louis (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 20 November 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)

my parents put me into private school for third grade because they felt public education wasn't cutting it for me. it was this scatterbrained boomer-bohemian kinda glorified day-care center, in a sprawling two-story victorian house that was kinda falling apart. my mom used to take me there every day on the subway -- to the newkirk avenue stop. this was '84-'85. lotta memories flooding back. go away, memories.

(the school sucked and when my parents put me back into public school the next year, all the kids laughed at me because i hadn't learned anything.)

― mimi in st. louis (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 20 November 2005 00:47 (twenty years ago)

when the dad said "walt and i are taking a road trip to suny-binghamton," i nearly DIED.

― mimi in st. louis (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 20 November 2005 00:52 (twenty years ago)

scatterbrained boomer-bohemian kinda glorified day-care center

I had several friends who went to a place like that, in Rochester. My sister went there for a year too. It was called Our School.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 20 November 2005 02:01 (twenty years ago)

OUR SCHOOL

i can't remember what my school was called. gotta ask my parents. i have a class pic of me from that year... i'll scan it if i can find it.

― mimi in st. louis (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 20 November 2005 02:29 (twenty years ago)

also it was funny that the dad taught at brooklyn college... both my parents went there.

― mimi in st. louis (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 20 November 2005 02:31 (twenty years ago)

the trip to suny-binghamton reminded me a lot of that college reading scene in deconstructing harry.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 20 November 2005 06:03 (twenty years ago)

ah binghamton, pride of the sunys. william baldwin went there!

― mimi in st. louis (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 20 November 2005 06:23 (twenty years ago)

This has been showing in Dallas for a couple of weeks, but after seeing Broken Flowers, I just cannot work up the will to see an American Sundance-friendly independent film.

American indies have become the cinematic equivalent of the Shins - completely affected, heartless, nothing to say, no new ground broken, no real reason for existing and/or for not just going all-out commercial.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 20 November 2005 06:25 (twenty years ago)

that's nice.

to me, the squid and the whale is the curb your enthusiasm to the royal tenenbaums' seinfeld -- darker, naughtier, less reliant on "stock" characters, less shy about showing awkwardness and conflict. doesn't mean i don't love both movies. i see tenenbaums as a tableau piece, a family portrait with action. this is closer to being a movie movie.

― mimi in st. louis (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 20 November 2005 06:31 (twenty years ago)

That...is very well put.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 20 November 2005 07:44 (twenty years ago)

Allison: I'm in the midst of doing my thesis.
Alvy Singer: On what?
Allison: Political commitment in twentieth century literature.
Alvy Singer: You, you, you're like New York, Jewish, left-wing, liberal, intellectual, Central Park West, Brandeis University, the socialist summer camps and the, the father with the Ben Shahn drawings, right, and the really, y'know, strike-oriented kind of, red diaper, stop me before I make a complete imbecile of myself.
Allison: No, that was wonderful. I love being reduced to a cultural stereotype.
Alvy Singer: Right, I'm a bigot, I know, but for the left.

― mimi in st. louis (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 20 November 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah? My parents divorced when I was 9. I lived 30 minutes out of manhattan, but in the other direction (NJ). I had the same SHEETS as the younger son, the ones that say sleep, sleep, sleeep, sleep on them. When they divorced my father moved into a shabby townhouse development several blocks away. The first thing he did was buy a warped Ping-Pong table. I was obsessed with pink floyd by the age of 11. And obsessed with the big whale at the museum, which was not lit the way it is now as shown in the movie. Talk about hitting close to home!

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 20 November 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

i love that exchange so much. (xp)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 20 November 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

I guess there were a lot of cars made twenty years in the future on the streets of Park Slope in 1986? There were so many obvious anachronisms in this movie it sort of annoyed me. Otherwise, I liked it.

― Keith C (lync0), Sunday, 20 November 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

This movie has the sleep sleep sleep sheets in it? AWESOME

― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Sunday, 20 November 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

i liked this movie. it was kinda hard to watch cuz it hit close to home yes.

― howell huser (chaki), Sunday, 20 November 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

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it's hard to judge this because the characters are all varying degrees of despicable: the old chestnut of attempting to pass misanthropy off as realism. We may have come across people as vile as this in real life but never an entire group of them, surely? There is some clever dialogue in here but i can't remember having such an averse reaction to every character in a film since Todd Solondz's Happiness. Solondz's films have the bonus of having a certain style, whether you like it or not, whereas this one was pretty ugly throughout. That may be a good thing actually, i'm not sure.

It has the added problem/ chestnut of including the scene explaining the typically random-seeming title so it can include it as an epiphany (yawn) at the end of the film in a predictable indie-filmish way. Please stop doing this.

anyway, i liked this more than all of that ^ suggests i did.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

"i've met some of those but none who were so totally invested in their character."

Yeah, the guys like Daniels I know get away with their asshole-ness by occasionally flashing some (maybe disingenuous) charm or warmth to throw everyone off balance.

"the old chestnut of attempting to pass misanthropy off as realism."

Yep, that's it exactly. Stories about humans who sometimes behave cruelly to one another are richer than a string of set pieces illustrating unpleasant interactions.

― Martin Van Buren (Martin Van Buren), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

it's hard to judge this because the characters are all varying degrees of despicable: the old chestnut of attempting to pass misanthropy off as realism.

I agree. I'd also add Neil LaBute to that list. But this film ain't one of them.

See, I still sensed Laura Linney's love for her boys despite her narcissism.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

anyway, i liked this more than all of that ^ suggests i did.

Yeah, at least the film made an impression on me. So many don't.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

Daniels was the only character I found thoroughly horrible. The other characters were troubled but not dislikable.

― Big Willy and the Twins (miloaukerman), Thursday, 13 April 2006 00:03 (nineteen years ago)

i liked it. has jonathan baumbach talked about it publicly yet?

― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 22 April 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...

just saw this movie and thoroughly enjoyed it. I had no idea at all it was a wes anderson, but from the start it felt so much like Tannenbaums, and this feeling only got more pronounced as the film progressed.

to me, the squid and the whale is the curb your enthusiasm to the royal tenenbaums' seinfeld -- darker, naughtier, less reliant on "stock" characters, less shy about showing awkwardness and conflict. doesn't mean i don't love both movies. i see tenenbaums as a tableau piece, a family portrait with action. this is closer to being a movie movie.

-- mimi in st. louis (theundergroundhom...) (webmail), November 20th, 2005 1:31 AM. (Jody Beth Rosen) (link)

more or less otm.

also, JB's character of a middle aged English prof is SPOT ON. couldn't be more perfect.

― AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 13 July 2006 04:18 (nineteen years ago)

it's not a wes anderson movie!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 13 July 2006 04:24 (nineteen years ago)

it sucks like one - OH!

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Thursday, 13 July 2006 04:31 (nineteen years ago)

This was so good ("Hey You" debacle and final scene were problematic, but certainly didn't ruin it, imo).

Favorite part: every time the little kid would tie one on he'd be shirtless. kinda like "philistine solidarity, my brother!"

― Will (will), Monday, 24 July 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

it's not a wes anderson movie!

i finally rented it and kept getting a nagging feeling that it borrowed too heavily from Wes Anderson's precocious brand of "twee cinema". Of course you're right, but it turns out Anderson was one of the producers.

― fongoloid sangfroid (sanskrit), Monday, 24 July 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

baumbach also wrote (co-wrote?) the screenplay for the life aquatic, so it's not as if he's just some random wes anderson PLAGIARIST.

― taco de ojo (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 24 July 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

i hated the life aquatic, the boats in it were totally from the wrong years, such an anachronism.

― fongoloid sangfroid (sanskrit), Monday, 24 July 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

If only the boats were the biggest problem with that movie.

― GILLY'S BAGG'EAR VANCE OF COUPARI (Ex Leon), Monday, 24 July 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

Did you really find that family TWEE?? Not mortifying?

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 24 July 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

NOT the filet of movies. But OK to see once.

― Bnad (Bnad), Monday, 24 July 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

morbs, i did not read that hoberman piece and am only catching up with the movie now -- but it sounds like he nailed it.

i wasn't implying the family or the characters were twee, rather i was noting the tendency of these post-Anderson/S. Coppola filmmakers to indulge in certain sentimental tropes.

― fongoloid sangfroid (sanskrit), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

I don't really see that strong a similarity. Anderson is always so cartoony and insincere, whereas Baumbach is obviously going for realism, sincerity, psychological drama, etc.

― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

childhood memories
retro fashions
the exotic as running gag
failed geniuses

― fongoloid sangfroid (sanskrit), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

I sort of see what you're saying, but "childhood memories" has been a staple of pretty much all fiction for a long time, "retro fashions" happen to be period fashions in this case (and not all that hip in S&W either), the "failed genius" here (the father) is hardly romanticized - in fact if anything his "genius" is made to look kind of questionable, and I don't know what you mean here by "the exotic as a running gag."

― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

it's so much better than the life aquatic (and Kicking and Screaming)

― kyle (akmonday), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

"exotic as running gag" doesn't really apply here, it comes up more in Coppola's (goofs on English pronunciation in Lost in Translation) and Anderson's (the Punjabi manservant) work. maybe it does apply to Squid + Whale, i can't remember if the subway montage showing off the father's relegation to "the other side of the park" was played for comic effect.

Anderson is always so cartoony and insincere, whereas Baumbach is obviously going for realism, sincerity, psychological drama

i don't agree with this, i don't see much difference between the two filmmakers. these twee indie filmmakers have a cloying way of wrapping up highly sentimental moments in a mantle of high irony and snark. it shouldn't work, but it does. baumbach fell flat doing this in a couple scenes, but the better ones -- the Belmondo reference in the ambulance for example, work great, they hit the right notes of funny and sad and define the characters.

― fongoloid sangfroid (sanskrit), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

I see less snark in Baumbach's work, though. He gets away with it by letting one character play the George Sanders trenchant-commentator (Chris Eigeman, Eric Stolz, Jeff Daniels).

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

these twee indie filmmakers have a cloying way of wrapping up highly sentimental moments in a mantle of high irony and snark

Such as?

― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 24 July 2006 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

i thought i was pretty clear. wes anderson, s. coppola, baumbach, and to a much lesser extent michel gondry. also one-off films such as garden state

― fongoloid sangfroid (sanskrit), Monday, 24 July 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

what about that thumbsucker motherfucker

― Supercalifragilisticexpiala Brosius (chaki), Monday, 24 July 2006 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

anyone/anything i'm forgetting here in this twee canon?

― fongoloid sangfroid (sanskrit), Monday, 24 July 2006 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, I mean "such as?" as in, can you please give an example of a scene in The Squid and The Whale that fits that twee snarky sentimental blah blah blah description?

― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 24 July 2006 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

Is there gonna be a separate Margot at the Wedding thread, or will we just use this one?

― James Redd and the Blecchs, Monday, 26 November 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

I can't wait to see it. Sunday Girl is on the soundtrack.

― I know, right?, Monday, 26 November 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

Margot at the Wedding is fucking a

― Mr. Que, Monday, 26 November 2007 16:50 (eighteen years ago)

three months pass...

thought this was excellent. 'margot' got shat on by crix in england but want to see it and it isn't here.

― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 22:54 (seventeen years ago)

some kid said I reminded him of the older brother in this movie. i've never seen it. is that a compliment or an insult? if it's the second, i've got some back of the head to punch.

― burt_stanton, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 23:41 (seventeen years ago)

lolololol some kind OTM

― max, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 00:04 (seventeen years ago)

some kid

― max, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 00:04 (seventeen years ago)

At least you're not the compulsive masturbator.

― milo z, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 00:51 (seventeen years ago)

compulsive masturbator >>>> older brother

― t_g, Wednesday, 5 March 2008 11:02 (seventeen years ago)

two years pass...

jesse eisenberg has such an exquisite hunch

― always be cozen (dayo), Thursday, 9 September 2010 15:05 (fifteen years ago)

this film was very good at summing up my family circa 1999-2003.

― village idiot (dog latin), Thursday, 9 September 2010 15:32 (fifteen years ago)

I don't see why he can have it both ways, though. Just because it's a small film? I mean, it's either supposed to be 1986 or it's not. And if it is, then there's a reasonable expectation that it's going to look and feel like 1986. It didn't to me.
― Keith C (lync0), Monday, November 21, 2005 12:57 PM (4 years ago) Bookmark

I lol'd

― always be cozen (dayo), Thursday, 9 September 2010 23:20 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

We watched this tonight and I loved it, for all the reasons ^ up there. So I shan't repeat them except yeah, great writing. The missus wasn't so swayed I think; she hates cringing, and there was a lot of that. It packed so much in too - I looked at the timer at one point thinking we must be quite a long way in, and it read 8 mins 50.

I actually got this because I was reading about City Island and it said Margot At The Wedding was filmed there and I'd like to see what it looks like. But its reviews are terrible so I got this instead. I'm glad I did.

― Ismael Klata, Friday, 1 June 2012 21:14 (thirteen years ago)

margot sorta epitomises frivolous, pointless, domestic filmmaking iirc.

― blossom smulch (schlump), Friday, 1 June 2012 21:28 (thirteen years ago)

Never knew this had its own fairly lengthy thread. One of my favourite movies ever--#17, to be precise, last time I counted them down.

― clemenza, Friday, 1 June 2012 22:20 (thirteen years ago)

four months pass...

the version of Street Hassle at the end of this is driving me crazy. I could've sworn that it's different from the album version...?

― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 4 October 2012 23:00 (thirteen years ago)

Pretty sure it's exactly the same...three or four minutes' worth?

― clemenza, Friday, 5 October 2012 03:41 (thirteen years ago)

I might watch this again today

― This Is... The Police (dog latin), Friday, 5 October 2012 08:00 (thirteen years ago)

Pretty sure it's exactly the same...three or four minutes' worth?

what throws me is the scene starts with the string riff from the middle of the song but when Lou's vocals come in it's not the narrative/story that he sing/speaks on the track, it's some sung refrain that I didn't recognize as actually being from the song

I would A/B these but the final scene doesn't appear to be on youtube

― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 5 October 2012 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

report back dog latin!

― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 5 October 2012 22:30 (thirteen years ago)

Here's part of it--the whole final scene was up a while ago, must have been taken down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mvc27mAieLQ

― clemenza, Friday, 5 October 2012 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

huh

I guess it's just an edit, my memory of the vocal was wrong

― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 5 October 2012 22:37 (thirteen years ago)

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