An asian girl told me in school today that Asians are smarter than everyone

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I asked her what race she was then.

Mr Adolph bin Streisand (Mr_Adolph_bin_Streisand), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)

trudat

bato (bato), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

http://www.sfgate.com/n/pictures/2005/11/09/warm7.jpg

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

She's right.

giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

japanese women don't get old OR fat.

Special Agent Dale Koopa (orion), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

and they're all great at the drums.

Fetchboy (Felcher), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

m.white with the pic post judo!! respec

geoff (gcannon), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

And did she confirm any other legendary traits for you?

k/l (Ken L), Thursday, 10 November 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

Someone told me last night that Asian people don't smell bad.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

Trains, planes, cars, rockets, telescopes, tires, telephones, radios,
television, electricity, atomic energy, computers, and fax machines.
All miracles made possible by the minds and spirits of men with
names like Ampere, Bell, Caselli, Edison, Ohm, Faraday, Einstein,
Cohen, Teller, Shockley, Hertz, Marconi, Morse, Popov. Ford,
Volta, Michelin, Dunlop, Watt, Diesel, Galileo, and other "dead
white males."

SAT scores by race:

Whites do better in verbal skills
Asians do better in math, so they tend to cancel each other for the combined score.

http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d01/dt134.asp

White Verbal Asian Verbal
1987 - 524 479
1991 - 518 485
1996 - 526 496
1997 - 526 496
1998 - 526 498
1999 - 527 498
2000 - 528 499
2001 - 529 501

White Math Asian Math
1987 - 514 541
1991 - 513 548
1996 - 523 558
1997 - 526 560
1998 - 528 562
1999 - 528 560
2000 - 530 565
2001 - 531 566


ACT Scores for university applicants:

http://www.act.org/news/data/04/charts/text.html#eight

White - 21.8
Asian - 21.9


Here are chidren's test scores from America.

http://nces.ed.gov/quicktables/Detail.asp?Key=652

Science:

Grade 4 White - 160
Grade 4 Asian - 151

Grade 8 White - 162
Grade 8 Asian - 156

Grade 12 White - 154
Grade 12 Asian - 153
http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/reading/results2003/raceethnicity.asp

Reading:

Grade 4 White - 229
Grade 4 Asian - 226

Grade 8 White - 272
Grade 8 Asian - 270
http://nces.ed.gov/nationsreportcard/mathematics/results2003/raceethnicity.asp

Mathematics:

Grade 4 White - 243
Grade 4 Asian - 246

Grade 8 White - 288
Grade 8 Asian - 291

Mr Adolph bin Streisand (Mr_Adolph_bin_Streisand), Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

haha i didn't even see the pokey nipples thread

geoff (gcannon), Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

I'd like to remind you that Asia is about 75% Russia.

andy ---, Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

A white dude told me today that white dudes have 10% more awesome than anyone else.

Spinktor the Unmerciful (mawill5), Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

trudat

bato (bato), Thursday, 10 November 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

Someone told me last night that Asian people don't smell bad.

That's true. Less scent glands.

JimD (JimD), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

Ha: how amazing that we got everyone in Asia to take the SAT for us!

nabiscothingy, Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

I wonder how Americans would do on an Asian verbal skills test.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 10 November 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)

Asians thank parents for top grades

By Diane Rado, Tribune staff reporter. Tribune reporter Darnell Little contributed to this report
Published November 9, 2005

Year after year, Asian students in Illinois outpace their peers on state tests.

Test results from the Illinois State Board of Education show the state's small population of Asian students posting higher passing rates on reading and math tests than every other racial group--at every grade tested--this year.

And a Tribune analysis of average test scores by grade shows Asian students consistently scoring higher than white, Hispanic and black students since 2000. What explains the gains?

Educators, parents and students say Asian students' gains are fueled by their family's attitudes, with parents pushing harder and almost exclusively on academics, particularly in the early grades, while whites emphasize sports and extracurricular activities as well as good grades. The state doesn't break out Asian students by country, but census data show that the largest groups in the Chicago area are Indian, Filipino, Chinese, Korean and Japanese.

Since federal No Child Left Behind reforms were enacted in 2002, educators have focused on narrowing performance gaps between white and black or Latino students.

Meanwhile, the gap between white and Asian students in Illinois has mostly widened in five years, the Tribune found.

In 2000, for example, less than 1 point separated white and Asian average scores on the 5th grade reading test. This year, that difference grew to about 4 points. In 8th grade math, Asians scored 6.3 points higher than whites in 2000, but 8.5 points higher this year.

Only in high school math has the gap narrowed slightly between Asian and white students. Both groups have posted slight declines since 2000, but Asians dropped a little more on the 11th grade test.

In grade school, the gap has widened in part because white students have posted flat reading scores since 2000, while Asians have improved some of their already high average scores.

Asians also have posted larger gains than whites in grade school math since 2000.

Several Asian students, recently named National Merit Scholarship semifinalists, said academics come first in the minds of their accomplished parents.

"Growing up in a Chinese family, grades are highly emphasized," said Naperville North High School senior Eugene Wang, who recalled having to lobby his parents to let him play in middle school sports.

"When it came to academic opportunities, my parents would present research opportunities, camps--they'd bring the brochures to me," he said.

Extracurricular activities are more acceptable in high school, when students need to build resumes for college applications.

But Nanditha Ramachandran, an Indian senior at Naperville North, said she still encountered some resistance from her mother when she joined the track team last year. "She said, `I don't know if you're going to get your schoolwork done.'"

Jack Zhou, a Chinese senior at Lake Zurich High School, said in elementary school his father, who is an engineer, would teach him math far more advanced than what he was doing in class.

When he read fantasy and science fiction in middle school, he said, his parents would remind him to read "famous books by famous authors," as well as biographies of scientists and entrepreneurs.

Beilin Ye, a senior at Chicago's Whitney Young Magnet High School, said getting good grades isn't just about bolstering her academic record. Respecting her Chinese heritage also is important.

"You bring honor to your whole race," she said.

She said her father, who works in computer science, would add his own math problems to her homework and her mother would take her to the library every day.

Ye's mother, Xiaohong Chen, was a doctor in China and is a nurse here. In her homeland, she said, people respect those who are smart and study hard.

She and her husband came to the United States in the early 1990s with high hopes.

"Our dream ... is giving my daughter the better life. But she has to do her part."

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drado@tribune.com


Copyright © 2005, Chicago Tribune

oops (Oops), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)

I, for one, welcome our new Asian overlords.

M. V. (M.V.), Thursday, 10 November 2005 22:52 (twenty years ago)

Allow me, for a moment, to blunder into the realm of questionable political correctness. This question actually frequently occupies my thoughts these days because I'm studying in a field where I'm heavily immersed in Chinese culture. Lately, I've been thinking that although Chinese culture places a very high value on a strong work ethic (especially "mental" work), there is not much value placed on critical thinking and the importance of individuality. I'm not totally gung-ho on the cult of the individual myself, but there's a time and a place...
Sometimes, I just have to say, "now wait a minute, these concepts you're presenting are of very questionable validity, and I'd like to see some independent verification." I'm too tired to go much further along this line of reasoning at the moment, but does this make any sense?

viborgu, Friday, 11 November 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

Here in Singapore the government is currently engaged on a crusade to force the populace to be more creative.

Jacob (Jacob), Friday, 11 November 2005 08:11 (twenty years ago)

I have to ask... how would you force people to be creative? Can it be done without the threat of physical violence / mental torture, e.g. I can see how being put in a room full of cockroaches & a supply of kitchen equipment might encourage creative problem solving, but it's of a limited application, surely?

Zora (Zora), Friday, 11 November 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

I'd like to remind you that Asia is about 75% Russia.

not in terms of population

ken c (ken c), Friday, 11 November 2005 09:46 (twenty years ago)

I have to ask... how would you force people to be creative? Can it be done without the threat of physical violence / mental torture

if you're more creative you'll figure out a way.

ken c (ken c), Friday, 11 November 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

oh i'm so asian today

ken c (ken c), Friday, 11 November 2005 09:50 (twenty years ago)

im good at standardized tests!

phil-two (phil-two), Friday, 11 November 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

i'm good at bastardized tests.

ken c (ken c), Friday, 11 November 2005 10:45 (twenty years ago)

Do youa really think Asians would bother discussing something so stupid as this?

Bisexual Phag, Friday, 11 November 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)

of course. we're so smart that we are actually able to discuss on both smart and stupid things!

ken c (ken c), Friday, 11 November 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

http://www.zippyvideos.com/1552062551713046/bounce/

The above link should settle the debate forever.

Bise\xual Phag, Friday, 11 November 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)

Breakdancing AND bowling! (xpost)

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Friday, 11 November 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)

That's true. Less scent glands.

From the linked wikipedia sweat gland article--

In some areas of the body, these sweat glands are modified to produce wholly different secretions, however, including the cerumen ("wax") of the outer ear. Others are greatly enlarged and modified to produce milk.

blech

Hunter (Hunter), Friday, 11 November 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

woah! They sweat MILK!!!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 11 November 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

asians or boobies?

Kim (Kim), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

This is the same ploy sports fans use when they speak of how "we" beat the shit out of the opposition. She wants to identify herself with a successful group because it is easier than being successful. The same holds true of nationalism. BTW, U-S-A! U-S-A!

Aimless (Aimless), Friday, 11 November 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)


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