Do we cherish our MILFs, or do we punish them?

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I mean, really, it's not that hard to "seduce" a stoned horny teenage guy.

Still, 30 YEARS?!

kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

turn, turn from the rain and the wind

detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

They said Johnson provided drugs and alcohol to eight boys and had sex with five of them.

I would have been one of the other three, I just know it.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

smoking gun details

detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

Now I'm glad I was one of the other three.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

Yeah. They probably needed the drugs to want to sleep with her.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

" "You said you wanted your daughter and her friends to consider you a cool mom," the judge said. "A cool mom provides a safe environment for her children and their friends. You provided drugs. A cool mom provides advice and guidance. You provided beer and hard liquor. A cool mom provides love. You provided sex." "

God damn activist judges trying to legislate taste and morality...

JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

waitaminit! sex/=love?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

" "Because that was never something (inaudible), never something I was a part of growing up. I was never in the popular group."

Johnson also said in that interview that she resented what she described as a double standard for men and women. "I think what I always had a hard time with is guys who do it are considered studs," she said. "A girl does it, she's considered a slut." "

what a scholar. finally, someone points out how in the UNITED STATES OF HYPOCRISY, older men are getting away with meth-fueled sex with drunk 15 year old girls. or as i like to call it: "Wednesday"

JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

Lemme just note that that seems SO TOTALLY ARVADA.

And really, here's the problem. Thirty years isn't that much, not if you want to imagine the law as something doesn't differentiate based on sex: if some older guy had been getting various high school girls high and having sex with them, we wouldn't be surprised to see the sentences for three statuatory rapes and delinquency-of-minors and so on add up to a few decades. On the other hand, we do live in a world that still has gender roles and gender expectations -- it's just that it's painfully difficult to imagine a form of law that can adequately respond to that in cases like this.

This is one of the things about statuatory rape in general: the laws can't really distinguish between really fucked-up manipulative statuatory rape and relationships that are odd and iffy and unhealthy but don't necessarily cause so much more damage to anyone than a legal unhealthy relationship. (Not saying that's very often the case, just that it's the best-case scenario here; e.g. a college kid who sleeps with a consenting high-school girl may well be doing less damage than an adult who emotionally abuses his adult wife.) But it also makes sense that the law wouldn't distinguish on those grounds, because the whole idea is that minors don't have the ability to distinguish on those grounds, and that puts all the power in the hands of the adult.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

I suppose the victim here is mostly this woman's poor daughter!

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

Who will spend the rest of her high school years getting called "Stiflette."

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

OMG, Wednesday is tomorrow! Where do I sign up?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

But it also makes sense that the law wouldn't distinguish on those grounds, because the whole idea is that minors don't have the ability to distinguish on those grounds, and that puts all the power in the hands of the adult.

Which is also why we don't try minors as adults, ever!

D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

if this woman is bi-polar, as the documents and reports state, then she is sick, and not totally in control of her actions. but it becomes a little hard to swallow when the reports also state that she used meth to control her symptoms.

huh huh swallow.

JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

Howcum "cool moms" just gotta try to fuck the neigborhood teenagers? Why can't they just be like "cool uncles", where they buy you beer and play Halo?

kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

this "cool mom" phenomenon was rather common where i grew up. I remember one graduation party where I, along with a few freinds, helped a mom take a keg stand. One of my best friends moms used to smoke pot with us, and at another party an acquaintance's drunk mom asked me if my dad was single because she "hadn't got any in a while". I don't know of any of them sleeping with teenagers, tho.

JD from CDepot, Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

Umm Dave I half-agree with you but I'm not sure that comparison is a very apt one -- in terms of human development I think the stage where you know not to, say, kill someone comes before the part where you're able to make sound decisions about whether adults are taking sexual advantage of you or not. But yeah, I still find it ridiculous that we break around our concept of a minor when it comes to crime (something that wouldn't even be an issue if we just had a juvenile justice system that allowed itself to deal with serious crimes, instead of passing them off into "adulthood").

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)


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