Dazed & Confused, C or D?

"Okay guys, one more thing, this summer when you're being inundated with all this American bicentennial Fourth Of July brouhaha, don't forget what you're celebrating, and that's the fact that a bunch of slave-owning, aristocratic, white males didn't want to pay their taxes."

is beck's wife a scientologist too?

In case anyone forgot this was filmed in Austin. Neck in neck with Slacker as my favorite 'made here' movie.

It was in the news recently. From IMDB:

On Thursday 7 October 2004, former high school classmates of Linklater filed a lawsuit against Universal Studios saying that the director did not get their permission to use their likenesses and surnames and now suffer from ridicule. The three men are Bobby Wooderson, Andy Slater and Richard Floyd. The three men still live in Huntsville, Texas where according to the lawsuit "we had fun in high school."

(and no more goddamn Ethan Hawke)

On Thursday 7 October 2004, former high school classmates of Linklater filed a lawsuit against Universal Studios saying that the director did not get their permission to use their likenesses and surnames and now suffer from ridicule. The three men are Bobby Wooderson, Andy Slater and Richard Floyd. The three men still live in Huntsville, Texas where according to the lawsuit "we had fun in high school."

this was reported awhile back on SNL with the joke being, the lawsuit's ten years later. stoners.

Fave music cue: "No More Mr. Nice Guy"

I like Waking Life way more than the Before jabberfests.

..I've got it on VHS, Laserdisc (remember those)and am awaiting a freaking release date for it to come out on Criterion. YAY!!

"dominant male monkey motherfucker!!"

very classic shot: when the camera rises up from the action panning to show the wreckage of the kegger, all to the tune of "tuesday's gone"

was very confused by Marissa Ribisi being in love with Jason Lee, who I could not remember being in Dazed & Confused (they meant Jason London)

― onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:31 PM (twelve minutes ago)

No I think Ribissi was talking about being in love with Jason Lee as the reason she wasn’t interested in any of the actors on set.
xp

― mizzell, Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:37 PM (five minutes ago)

Ribisi was only allowed to date fellow Scientologists hence Jason Lee.

Adam Goldberg is a very good podcast interview - so neurotic it seems like he might be unbearable in person but he can spin a good anecdote

Agreed! Seems like he'd be exhausting to hang around with for extended periods, but I do like hearing him tell stories from time to time.

the comment about Milla’s mom being on set as a guardian as some kind if deterrent is kinda lol bc iirc her mom was pretty checked out (maybe thinknng of a diff celeb mom tho)

Iirc, Ribisi was--like Jovovich--underage at the time, and Jason Lee actually was there in Austin as her guardian.

Ribisi was only allowed to date fellow Scientologists hence Jason Lee.

also being put in an arranged marriage to Beck as soon as he broke up with his non-₵lam girlfriend

Goldberg: We would hang out in the lobby, drinking beer and playing cards. I was with Jason Lee [Almost Famous] a lot. He wasn’t acting yet; he was skateboarding. But he was dating Marissa, and since she was seventeen, he came as her guardian. We would sort of run wild in the hotel.

From: www.texasmonthly.com/the-culture/the-spirit-of-76-2/

^^Also in the book w/the Criterion DVD/Blu.

They should have called Jason Lee a skateboarder in the parenthetical, he hadn't made Clerks yet.

And he never would!

(agreed re "skateboarder")

Total derail, but if you didn't know who Jason Lee and/or Spike Jonze were in 1991, this is a clip from one of the best/most influential videos (in terms of riding/cinematography) of the genre at the time which led to both earning a much higher profile:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shKJ3kcSkh0

Shortly thereafter, McConaughey went to his parents' home in Houston, accompanied by producer Monnie Wills. At the funeral, his mother told everybody that Jim passed away while they were making love -- something his father had long predicted would happen -- even specifying that "he did get to finish."

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L-I-V-I-N indeed...

Fun fact: I grew up near Huntsville, TX. Both my parents worked there, went grocery shopping there, etc. It was the big city (we lived waaay out in the woods). I'm friends with the real Slater who in the movie is sort of a combination of him and his brother with a lot of fictionalized elements. If you mention the movie around him he'll start grumbling and whining which is usually pretty fun. He was thinking about trying to market Slater Bongs but the moment passed. At one point I was thinking about working at the prison to save up some money and he protested, letting me live with him rent free and giving me work, which likely saved my soul. As a tribute I got a tattoo that matches one he has. He knew a guy who knew a guy that could get weed so he kept me supplied when I needed it. Very good guy. A bit squirrelly.

Fantastic story.

I'm friends with the real Slater

That's pretty amazing...He's the iffiest character in the film for me; sometimes he works, sometimes he's a bit too much.

The real Slater, along with the real Wooderson and Pink, sued Linklater for using their names/likeness in the movie: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2004-10-10-0410100343-story.html

“ sometimes he works, sometimes he's a bit too much.”

This is a very good description of the real guy.

I don’t talk to him regularly because i’m not good at keeping up with people and... life. But I remember my mom telling me about the lawsuit and we laughed about it a while. They claimed that the movie hurt their reputation, but I know in Slater’s case most people wouldn’t have known about it if he wasn’t blabbing and complaining about it.

I’ve got a ton of Slater stories but I should probably hush up about him. He’s a great guy with a big heart who often makes confounding decisions.

catch you later

catch you later

not to worry: there's a new fiesta in the making as we speak

Let me tell ya this. The older you do get, the more rules they're gonna tryyyyy to get you. To fah-llow.

don't forget what you're celebrating

WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? WIPE THAT FACE OFF YOUR HEAD, BITCH!

this is the Big Don/gabbneb test

George Washington was in the cult, and the cult was in the aliens

aw, gee, you hear that? if we leave, we can’t come back!

oh, no! what should we do?

I was getting there!

i read the new oral history book "alright, alright"; it's breezy and light but a fun read. best chapter was the one dedicated to how much everyone hated shawn andrews, who played pickford. he was so obnoxious that his role got cut way down in favor of mcconaughey, who had an obvious good presence/vibe. that's why wooderson is on the football field with them in the end even though it doesn't really make sense that this older guy would be hanging out on a high school football field.

also linklater seems like a pricklier guy than i expected

Read it too. Yeah, the Andrews chapter was good--no surprise he and Milla Jovovich were the only two who didn't participate in the book. Also thought the story of that metal band the producers tried to foist onto the film, along with the complete listing for the proposed soundtrack, was fascinating.

even though it doesn't really make sense that this older guy would be hanging out on a high school football field.

I don't know, as someone who went to high school in a small Midwestern town that revolved around high school football, it 100% checks out that a weird older guy might be hanging out on the football field with the current high school football stars.

I went to high school twenty years later than when the film was set and quite a ways away, geographically, but there were many parallels with my high school - most egregiously was the school sponsored and supported "freshman initiation" that was held on school grounds and included such "highlights" as the seniors rubbing skunk piss under the noses of freshmen and making some freshmen push pennies around toilet bowl rims with their tongues.

We got a new superintendent my junior year who immediately banned it, but it was shocking to see the degree with which the school administration either outright condoned and encouraged the initiation or turned their heads with a wink and a nod. So when the movie came out, also in my junior year, those initiation scenes hit hard.

in the book they talked to a lot of people who went to high school with linklater and a number of them said they saw the initiation scenes in the movie as traumatic rather than funny

I need to read this book, been on my list but haven't gotten around to it. I can definitely see that.

Thanks for hipping me to the existence of that book, y'all. Had no idea it existed.

At some point I'll dig my old Film Threats out of whatever box they're in and scan the long article/interview re: D&C that came out prior to the film's release.

Gotta finish making it through Caste before I can start Alright Alright. Looking forward to it though!

it 100% checks out that a weird older guy might be hanging out on the football field with the current high school football stars.

Well, yeah.

Always loved the little detail that one of the cops who picks them up was Wooderson's teammate.

Almost finished the oral history myself, a really fun read. The Andrews chapter was crazy, everyone hated him. I loved Rory Cochrane's quote, "If all the people in this book are all saying the same thing about him? That's fucking karma."

Any good Slater stories in there?

xp Ex-son-in-law of Galina Jovovich.

(people that wrote their own IMDB entry?)

Most of the talk with Rory Cochrane was about how he didn't really relate to the Slater character and it pissed him off to be called in for every stoner movie ever after it came out, he even almost turned down Empire Records.

The best parts of the book, imho, are how the studios just completely botched the marketing and totally misunderstood the market and reading just how many of the actors ultimately looked back on the filming as a real special time in their lives. I was surprised by how much Ben Affleck participated.

I'm sure I've mentioned it in this thread, but I lived with the real Slater for a while and we have matching tattoos.

I remember when the movie came out, the imagery behind it looked horrible (posters, VHS covers, etc). Total WACKY HIPPY vibes. It still looks cruddy, my parents know some of those people and I bought my mom a copy on DVD and the look of it put her off so much I don't think she's ever watched it.

the rare making-of book that increased the mystique of the movie for me

I bet Nicky Katt's done something better.

https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/a094ea85-68eb-4f98-b455-0d160144e673_1.047be11dffbca4198e1f342cd55fad08.jpeg

yeah the poster/box art for the movie was very 90’s hippie revival

the criterion version came with a great Frank Kozik poster that should have been the official art

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=frank+kozik+dazed+confused&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fthumbs.worthpoint.com%2Fzoom%2Fimages1%2F1%2F0922%2F07%2Fdazed-confused-original-film-poster_1_ba954484d2d09ccc65ad393d8fecfd17.jpg

well shit

https://sothebys-md.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/380b2cc/2147483647/strip/true/crop/1288x2000+0+0/resize/2048x3180!/quality/90/?url=https:%2F%2Fsothebys-md.brightspotcdn.com%2F8f%2F0b%2Fa3ddd47e4895b6543a1f5d9f358a%2Fl19985-b9yct-01.jpg

oh that rules

right?

I have my copy hanging up in my home office. It’s the best

that criterion release was gorgeous: elaborate yearbook conceit w led zep 3 style picture windows

have it, love it, waiting til my wife gets home to watch

that criterion release was gorgeous: elaborate yearbook conceit w led zep 3 style picture windows

yes! have most of my old DVDs in CD wallets now, but I kept the full package of that one - now want to find it to see if I still have the Kozik poster, would def frame.

Just ordered a copy of that oral history as it sounds amazing and am a fan of Maerz's work