ID Cards in Britain?

but, er, i wouldn't be prepared to spend even one fucking shiny penny on said card ;)

It's bad, but it's not as bad as the police's plans to track every vehicle on the British road network.

but yes, is there anything that isnt really forgeable?

and, as for the public, i am convinced that they want them. but, they want them for other people (you know, happyslappers, albanians, bird-flu carriers, people who play mp3s on their phone on the bus, people who take the bus). thats why they dont care about how much it will cost them, they wont be getting one, dear

Seems a total waste of dosh to me. I don't give two hoots about "ooh big brother ooh no" there are plenty of id options out there already. I really think this is a direction towards the ridiculous.

holy shit. that gets me thinking. i've lost my oyster card twice already. i'm not paying £93 to get it replaced each time!

for a card!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/10/17/clarke_id_3rdvote_spin/

that's how it's like in hong kong! it's really neat. you basically never have to carry proper cash.

pistol whipping.

It's basically the same as cash. it's only used really for little things. and so you don't just put your whole bank's balance on it. but better than cash because if you lose it you can cancel it.

There's not much fucking stealthy about charging people upwards of £93 for a document they need.

Gareth you should try living somewhere else for a while! I agreed with you all the time about england before I left, now I only agree with you some of the time (although I do here, abt albanians etc...)

where the hell are they getting the idea that ANYONE wants this? it's being talked about a lot everywhere and has been since it first came up, and i have not spoken to or overheard one single person saying they think it's a good idea. er, except gareth now.

lol but that's going great guns!

-- ken c (it...), November 18th, 2005.

haha, i was going to call this out, before i saw the addy.

A matter of considerable, nay vital, national importance

It would make it harder for you to use more than one identity at a time. The bloke who stole the dead baby's name seemed quite happy to live life under his new ID, so when he went to apply for his first ID card he'd just take along the deceased tot's birth certificate and say "Here's who I am".

Then with his biometrics on file it would be, in theory, impossible for him to get another ID card, but he would still be living under a false name.

yebbut how long did it take and how much did it cost? it seemed to frag on FOREVER.

Ha! Guess what I just received from transport of london...

Dear Mr Chu,

We have recently introduced a new payment method when using Oyster to pay as you go (Pre Pay) called Auto top-up.

Using either a credit or debit card, this service allows your Oyster card to be topped up automatically with either ?0 or ?0, whenever your balance drops below ?.

But everyone has something to hide - So we all have everything to fear

except for http://www.loscavio.com/images/portfolio/loscavio_videoproduction_mymonkey.jpg

The ID cards bill has gone back and forth between the Commons and the Lords with the crucial aspect of compulsory entry to the national
database being debated. Last week, sadly, the Tories and Crossbenchers
caved in and we now have a dodgy compromise deal that forces us all on
to the ID Card database when we renew our passports from 2008.

Be careful, therefore, in choosing when to renew your passport. If you
can time it to be just before the compulsion is mandatory, at the end of 2007 for example, you would then have 10 years with that passport,
during which time there's every chance the requirement will have been
dropped or modified (the Conservatives currently claim they would repeal this legislation if they were elected.* More likely, however, the Lib Dems could force this issue if in coalition with Labour from 2009.)

If you are unaware of why the database is a_very_bad_thing, read
no2id.net article

*NB: Obviously, this does not mean one ought to vote Tory or that this
will be their policy next week ...

http://www.badscience.net/2007/11/make-your-own-id/

In fact you might sense that the whole field of biometrics and ID is rather like medical quackery: as usual, on the one hand we have snake oil salesmen promising the earth, and on the other a bunch of humanities graduates who don’t understand technology, science or even human behaviour. Buying it. Bigging it up. Thinking it’s a magic wand.

hahaha yep!

srsly why the fuck do they teach english literature in universities? what posssible good comes of it?

quod erat demonstrandum

ID card scheme to be scrapped: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/may/27/theresa-may-scrapping-id-cards

That's all well and good but

A separate scheme under which identity cards are issued to all foreign nationals resident in Britain by 2015 run by the United Kingdom Border Agency is still to go ahead. Home Office ministers said yesterday this was a separate scheme for biometric residence permits for foreign nationals that was required by European Union legislation.

this is still pretty annoying.

I don't know how the scheme survived this long - the figures (as detailed upthread) were always enormous and the case for always made the benefits seem really half-arsed. Would like to know exactly how much was spent to allow Labour to posture as tough on whatever-it-was.