Is everyone going off postmodernism?

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Is everything a little too knowing now. Where is the real sentiment?

― scirrp ridd, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)

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― THIS IS THE SOUND OF ALTERN 8 !!! (noodle vague), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

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― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

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― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

i never liked it in the first place. but let's anticipate some answers:

1) the claim that people are going off this thing you call 'postmodernism' implies that it has a single, fixed identity blahblahblah

2)you oppose 'knowing' to 'sentiment'!!!! QED!!!!!!!

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

Postmodernism reached its peak sometime in the late eighties, and has been in decline ever since.

― jz, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)

discus

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I thought postmodernism went out of fashion about 20 years ago, and was actively debunked as a fraud about ten years ago.

― The Damp Is Rising (kate), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

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― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

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― Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

When even Momus is making a "radical, experimental" album and claims to have lost interest in kitsch, I think we can safely say that postmodernism is over and modernism is back. Long live neomodernism!

― it's "war-hol" actually, as in "holes", Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

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― THIS IS THE SOUND OF ALTERN 8 !!! (noodle vague), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

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― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:49 (twenty years ago)

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― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)

Post-modernism mustt die, Modernism, Futurism and Rationalism must rise again.

CAn the post-modernist wank fest be removedfrom this thread, thank-you.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

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― THIS IS THE SOUND OF ALTERN 8 !!! (noodle vague), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

surely 'bringing back' old styles like modernism (not really a style, ok) and futurism (horrid thing) *is* post-modern?

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

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― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

Culture is like this now and that's how it's going to stay. We can't go back to less knowing times because then we'd just be knowingly unknowing and that's just silly.

― James Ward (jamesmichaelward), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

what's 'knowing' about james blunt or batman begins or lil jon or or or?

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)

no its restarting modernism, rationalism and futurism based on their principles not their outward styles and mode. Just raiding those philosphys for retro enjoyment is indeed very post-modern.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

sctually post-modernism need not die but it needs to be put back in it's box; returned to the occasionally useful analytical technique that it once was.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

This could be an interesting topic, I don't see why it needs to be bombarded with unfunny pictures. We're definitely in a post-postmodern period now, since we can look back at it with a sense of distance from it. I find it interesting that something that was supposed to be so non-chronological by mixing and matching styles from various periods and levels of culture in itself congealed into a highly-recognisable style that seems so of its time. Like seventies period movies that no longer look period, just seventies. Ultimately, postmodernism seems like just another failed attempt at a transcendental meta-discourse, not a way out of modernism, but a way that led deeper into its presumptions.

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Actually I think 'knowingly unknowing' might be a good description of our age. In the eighties, there was this emphasis on exposing underlying structure - movies that emphasised that they were nothing but shadows on the wall, novels in which their authors make an appearace etc. It's all that that feels very naive now. We understand that movies and novels aren't 'real' now, we've moved on from that, and postmodern trickery now feels like dead horse flogging.

― jz, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

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― THIS IS THE SOUND OF ALTERN 8 !!! (noodle vague), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

This could be an interesting topic, I don't see why it needs to be bombarded with unfunny pictures.

you dont understand

do you

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― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

OK, you win, I give up.

― jz, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

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― THIS IS THE SOUND OF ALTERN 8 !!! (noodle vague), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

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― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

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― THIS IS THE SOUND OF ALTERN 8 !!! (noodle vague), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

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― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Tuesday, 22 November 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

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