Dope Detox

SO I guess my message is - hang on in there, it gets easier!

Did you notice any feelings of slight hysteria? I've been laughing myself into a sweat over non funny things, like when you first start puffing dope and get the giggles. This is kinda scary though.

Why no? It's great. I didn't smoke much weed (before I was pregnant) but I loved the few times I went to sleep stoned. Freaky dreams.

I don't kow if it makes a difference that I was smoking really shitty soapbar, on the few occasions I've had a good bit of weed the stone is TOTALLY different.

xpost - what's soapbar?

the weed was not laced with liquid lsd.

I'm off w33d at the moment; whenever I run out of my quarter I'll just go without for a month or longer. I find when I have it I so at it so much (2-4 cones an evening) that I start getting really depressed, and lately I've been bad. Mind you Ive been drinking loads too, and I'm cutting that back to nothing also (and by default, cigs).

Being toasted was kinda helping me write tho, so.. hrm.

xpost

Sooo... hows the quitting going?

i tried it and it created a really shit yogurt.

rumpie: sadly, i don't have any great advice for you. i don't remember finding it particularly difficult to stop my two-joints-a-night thing, but this is going back six years now, so details are sketchy. i did carry on smoking cigs, so maybe trayce and tracer hand are right and it is the nicotine.

i don't recommend you smoke cigs as a cure, mind.

I've had this from being badly stoned. I've hallucinated, I've fainted, Ive had racing repetitive thoughts so I couldnt sleep... and since Ive also had one or 2 E's I now sometimes get what I think you mean by darting eyes - well, my eyes do this weird almost "fitlike" rapid side to side flicker. Its very disconcerting!

I just always assumed, like Chaki says, that some weed is just really strong (apparently now its all hybrid and hydro stuff, its WAY stronger than what our olds would have had?).

I had to stop fr a few months a while back because of my heart, i should probably still be stopped but am not. I had the tiredness, the headaches and also a total loss of appetite. It lasted abt two weeks. I am also on the really cheap plastic-laced soapbar stuff, i am unsure if this makes any difference to stopping and it's effects but i know it kills my lungs more.

Next step is kicking the caffeine.

Also, no one in the history of humankind has smoked weed "laced with LSD." The idea is laughable, and the whole "laced weed" notion is, as stated before, a propagandist myth told to scare the kiddies in anti-drug education seminars in jr. high. It just doesn't happen. You and your friends just got really, really high on some good shit.

the dreaming thing is cuz mj inhibits REM sleep, so when you stop you get a big burst of it. that'll go away though as your sleep schedule renormalizes.

This is way off the mark. What's going on is actually that you're suffering from a deficiency of serotonin in your system. It's a natural chemical in your brain that is released when you smoke. It's what gives you that "ahhhh" feeling when you get high. The "high", literally. Serotonin is also what ecstasy pumps into your system in huge doses every time you take a pill. There are actually over the counter nutritional supplements that will boost your serotonin level and help to detox your system. If the phrase "nutritional supplements" scares you off, it shouldn't. Sure, some of them are just crap, but I'm talking about taking basic vitamins and amino acids which we should be getting from our food, but don't always get enough of. Most of this information comes from several well-documented books, and I would highly recommend that, if this problem persists, you go out and get yourself a copy of End Your Addiction Now by Charles Gant. Of course, a physicians professional guidance is highly recommended as well, but for me the cost issue on that was prohibitive. The thing is, as I said these supplements are all naturally occurring, and it's really hard to take a dosage that is toxic at all. The main one you need is called 5-HTP (a serotonin precursor), but it ain't cheap. If you're not going to do any further research, I'd also recommend getting a basic multivitamin and a multimineral supplement. THIS STUFF WILL REALLY HELP YOU OUT.

The other thing which really helps me out is meditation. This is not for everyone, I realize, so I'll just throw that out there and you can make what you will of it. There are many different methods of meditation, so if you have had a bad experience with one method, don't write them all off. To me, meditation is basically anything you do that occupies the "busy" part of your mind and leaves the creative part free to roam. Washing the dishes, for example.

"wow! is this what being stoned feels like?"

Yeah, I'm stoned right now. The first time getting high after quitting for a while is a profoundly psychedelic experience for me now, and not in a good way. I just get really confused and thick-headed. Then if keep using, I get accustomed to it, my mind gets used to being slow and addled. I've been doing a lot of stupid things recently, and marijuana way well be the least of my worries.

Good bud is quite common in the UK these days, so there's no real reason to stick to soapbar. (Although there are some worries about the effect of inhaling hydroponic chemicals used for homegrown grass).

This is bullshit. Maybe not LSD, but people have mixed weed with PCP or even cocaine or speed. My wife smokes tons of weed and got totally fucked up off a couple of tokes at a Grateful Dead show once (this was a long time before I met her), she found out later that had PCP in it.

i think the people upthread that are saying it was just strong weed that you couldnt handle. people forget it can be a strong drug also. i cannot handle it, it makes me go to sleep

This part may be important - hippies be sharing shit.