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I get this periodically, but right now it's really bad and affecting my mood, work etc. I've always been resistant to taking any kind of prescribed medicines for it, as I've no desire to get addicted to something I'd probably need/want quite a lot of the time. I've tribed herbal remedies such as valerian, but that doesn't work. I've also tried weed and alcohol which tend to work a bit better, but I'm trying to avoid total reliance on that.

Anyone got any magic remedies?

sleepless (jaybob3005), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

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(it'll send you to sleep while you wait for the results)

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Medication doesn't necessarily result in addiction. Try it. In moderation it can help you finding back your sleep cycle.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

(Also, probably a stupid tip, if you can't sleep, get out of bed and do something. Bed is for sleep... and sex of course.)

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

xxpost have you tried anyone in particular and found it worked? prob is now that when i go to bed i'm anxious about not sleeping and therefore don't sleep so if i were to get out of bed when not sleeping i wouldn't get in at all!

sleepless (jaybob3005), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

Anyone got any magic remedies?

if you find any please let me know, i'm going out of mind at the moment.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

Clean sheets, a more comfortable mattress, turkey sandwiches. Make sure the temperature is coolish in your bedroom. Try an aromatherapy candle or one of those soothing plug-in scents. Turn off all stimulation (TV & stereo).

Maybe you can get a prescription and just use it on Sunday nights so at least you get fully rested once a week.

Rebekkah (burntbrat), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

If you're waking up in the middle of the night, maybe you have apnoea or something like it. If you can't get to sleep in the first place, some things that have worked for me: Try hypnotising yourself. Concentrate on making all your breaths exactly the same, etc. And don't do anything in bed except sleep and have sex. Avoid mental activity like reading when in bed.
xposts - what Nathalie said

beanz (beanz), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

If it's stress-related, this might work (it did for me): have a small box or bag next to your bed and every night before trying to sleep, write down everything that is worrying you, however minor, and even things that you just have to remember to do the next day, on small pieces of paper then drop them into the box.

Also, I was advised to take a small dose of anti-histimine like Piriton, which as Nathalie says can just help break the cycle of sleeplessness. (I was worried about not sleeping and the tiredness was multiplying the anxiety and etc etc). I didn't actually need to take the Piriton in the end, but I'm pretty sure you wouldn't get dependent on it (much better than alchohol anyway).

Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

Red, red wine.

andy --, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

my problem is that i usually don't need more than a few hours of sleep, so i take this for granted and get ZERO hours instead of the four that i typically get by with. that's fine for one night, but it adds up. it's not uncommon for a week to go by where i've accumulated as little as 12 hours of sleep.

j b everlovin' r (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

Obv you need to work out what is causing your insomnia; stress, bad sleep habits, environmental factors, physical factors such as sleep apnoea.

As for drugs I can recommend Zopiclone, it's prescription only in the UK, don't know about the US, but it's not as 'heavy' as Piriton, which gives me a bit of a hangover.

Zora (Zora), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 22:52 (twenty years ago)

six years pass...

third or fourth night in a row where i'm looking out the window brighteyed and bushytailed at 4am creeping in over the hills. ggmkhfddfhuooplhxbm

less of the same (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 03:08 (thirteen years ago)

Can I retract my recommendation of Zopiclone pls? It's horrible.

Also unknown as Zora (Surfing At Work), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:23 (thirteen years ago)

one month passes...

Anyone ever bought pillows, duvets or beds that have changed - improved, really - their sleep patterns?

djh, Sunday, 29 April 2012 21:18 (thirteen years ago)

i can only imagine this working if your current mattress is *really* shitty

mookieproof, Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)

agree, and yeah it happened to me. I moved house last year and ended up moving from a shitting Superman undersized quilt cover and crappy sofa cushions to a proper king sized duvet and feathered pillows. The moving house part 'may' have helped too, but the improvement in bed quality was unmistakably a factor.

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)

somewhere in all that I should have noted "and my sleeping improved", but I'm sure you guessed that.

PSOD (Ste), Sunday, 29 April 2012 22:57 (thirteen years ago)

I bought a shaped memory foam cushion which seemed to help for a while.

Pondering a new duvet as our current one is tragic.

djh, Monday, 7 May 2012 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

Anyone ever been to a (UK, NHS) sleep clinic?

djh, Monday, 7 May 2012 11:37 (thirteen years ago)

I had this badly recently...coupled w agitation, often about things that were actually fine but I churned through each permutation

I quit coffee, I'm sure it was a bit contrib factor even tho I didn't drink that much

One other thing I find helps is going to bed at 8 and watching a film

Plus no alcohol or coffee or bad food during week

coal, Monday, 7 May 2012 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

Turning computer off too

Sorry these prob too basic but they're helping for me

coal, Monday, 7 May 2012 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

It's difficult for me because my work hours are often irregular or unpredictable but the closer I get to routine the more balanced I feel

coal, Monday, 7 May 2012 11:56 (thirteen years ago)

kept awake last night by a swollen thumb, not sure if it's gout which I do get but fucken inconvenient.
Had me drifting in and out of sleep and eventually getting up at 4am to get a painkiller. Then my alarm went off at 6.30 cos I neglected to turn it off with today being a bank holiday. So feeling about half asleep.

Stevolende, Monday, 7 May 2012 11:57 (thirteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

"Anyone ever been to a (UK, NHS) sleep clinic?"

No one?

djh, Wednesday, 30 May 2012 21:27 (thirteen years ago)

Any ideas re flinching/jumping/body-popping as drifting off to sleep and while asleep (often wakes me up)?

djh, Tuesday, 5 June 2012 21:44 (thirteen years ago)

four weeks pass...

So. White Noise and White Noise Machines.

I've rigged up a fake one using a ten minute sample of Brownian Noise on a loop in iTunes to see if this is actually something worth investing in.

After 3 days, I am finally starting to get to the point where I can tolerate the sound of it while I sleep. It is intrusive, but not as intrusive as neighbours, street noise, pub across the road, etc.

I'm just wondering if these machines are programmable so you can make them louder in the evening/morning when your neighbours are most active, but have them not be so loud and intrusive in the small hours? Or is there an MP3 player I can get for Mac that has programmable volume for the length of a multi-hour playlist?

Yes, Virginia, There Is A Higgs Boson (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Wednesday, 4 July 2012 08:37 (thirteen years ago)

First full night of white noise. Still only got about 6 hours. Seems like it makes it easier to stay asleep once I get there, but harder to get (/back) to sleep when/once I'm awake.

I just hate feeling like so much of such a basic thing like sleep (and all its effects on health) is at the beck and call of other people. The takeaway next door doesn't shut up shop until past 11, but stompy upstairs neighbour starts up at 6am. I don't even get to catch up on sleep at the weekend because of 1) pub across the road who thinks that licensing hours just don't apply to them (I can't even tell you how often I've complained to the council) and 2) church on the other side who take that whole "make a joyful noise unto the Lord" thing literally.

Coming to accept that, short of moving, the environment is never going to change, and I have to do something to make an environment conducive to sleep for myself. :-(

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Friday, 6 July 2012 09:03 (thirteen years ago)

that weird feeling in a car or train when you fall asleep for a split second then jolt awake?

today i've had that jolt thing a couple times but without the dropping off for a split second thing, its kind of weird and i've definitely not been sleeping enough for some time

coal, Friday, 6 July 2012 15:38 (thirteen years ago)


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