living in south london/deciding between living in a flat in brixton or streatham - C or D

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cant decide which to go for - which is the better area?

aaaaaaaaaa, Saturday, 26 November 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

Brixton - more danger, more vibrancy, more menks, more transport options.

Streatham - more comfortable, better serviced by high street action, further away from the centre, more safety.

I appreciate what I have living in Streatham, but would feel a litle closer to the action in Brixton.

Who the hell do you THINK I am? I'm the goddamn Batman! (Barima), Saturday, 26 November 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

Depends what you're looking for. I lived at the top of Brixton Hill which meant both were close

Vicky (Vicky), Saturday, 26 November 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

bit worried about potential crime in london, my flatmate is a woman as well, so am wondering how safe it would be for her to walk from brixton station to the house which is ten mins down the road (but down a long possibly empty street at night time)

but then streatham seems kinda dead as an area, so maybe that would be worse for her when travelling late at night, i dont know

brixton i supose is more active, so being in the heart of it might be nice, but then its only a bus ride away isnt it?

aaaaa, Saturday, 26 November 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

I never had any problems walking around brixton station, the trick is to always look as though you know where you're going, and not to dawdle. My boyfriend was much more uncomfortable coming to visit me, and probably rightly, as I think men are more likely to get hassle. Buses are really frequent, even though it's only a ten minute walk, would getting the bus from the station be an option?

Transport's much better in Brixton, there are always other options if one form goes tits up.

Vicky (Vicky), Saturday, 26 November 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

why are you only looking at south london? closer to your job? just wondering cause the north and the east has more to offer. atleast that's my impression after spending 2 months in london.

Lovelace (Lovelace), Saturday, 26 November 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

men getting more hassle doesnt bode well for me but anyway, yeah she can get a bus, or a cab too i suppose, just dont want her to have hassle though, she recently was mugged for her phone

streatham might be the safer option, but it seems a bit dead, and i dunno if walking from the BR station there would be better for her than walking from brixton tube

to be honest, im a bit worried about the safety for myself as well, i suppose its just a case of pros and cons though with brixton, you get all the energy and vibrancy but you dont get the other things

i really have to make my mind up soonish though
streatham is the safer option i suppose but brixton might be more interesting (not sure if interesting is always good - the reviews on nowhere.co.uk were quite mixed!)

sorry for all this internal dialogue!

i dont know why im only looking at south london, maybe just cos its cheaper for what you can get, its def not nearer to my workplace

aaaaa, Saturday, 26 November 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

part of the reason for choosing south london i think is that my flatmate wanted to try it out as she hasnt lived there and it seems to be cheaper

aaaa, Saturday, 26 November 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

why only streatham and brixton? there are many other places in south london. camberwell and peckham seem preferable to me, or deptford even

calderdale in the 70s (gareth), Saturday, 26 November 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

To be honest, I don't think there's much difference safety wise between brixton and streatham. I lived in Brixton Hill for four years (getting the bus between brixton tube and home), and never ever had any hassle in brixton, and non of my flatmates did either. Camberwell's nice, I lived there for a year, but the transport links are rubbish, unless you absolutely love buses and don't mind being stuck in traffic jams. Haven't lived in peckham, but if safety's your main concern I wouldn't have thought Peckham was any better or worse than brixton.

What time/day was it when you visited the flat? Did you feel uncomfortable, or are you just reaching conclusions based on hearsay?

Vicky (Vicky), Saturday, 26 November 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

partly hearsay yeah, i suppose myths and hearing things amplifies your preconceptions, so maybe im worrying about nothing, im a bit of a worrier in general so am probably stressing in advance for no real reason

i didnt feel uncomfortable visiting the flat, its a kinda quiet area, its just the travelling aspect for my flatmate/cousin im concerned about

visited at night once, and once by day as well
might just go for brixton actually, the flat in streatham is a bit nicer and brighter (plus it has a nice plush hallway!) but at least brixton is nearer to the tube (would have to get the bus there from streatham) and theres nightlife there too, not much to do in streatham really is there?! so will prob be in brixton more anyway

aaaaaaa, Saturday, 26 November 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

Streatham is lovely, come on down South.

I don't know if there's a crime difference between Streatham and Brixton - there has been a rash of breakins on our street and we live in a really quiet bit.

However, Streatham is a lot more affordable and a lot more quiet. If you want excitement, Brixton is only a 10 minute busride/20 minute walk away.

Sophisticated Boom Boom (kate), Monday, 28 November 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)

danger is overrated.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 28 November 2005 11:25 (twenty years ago)

have lived in brixton for 3 years and have had more hassle (the few and unfortunate times I've been) in Streatham than anywhere else in the local vicinity.

if you live in brixton the area going towards herne hill/dulwich road is nicer and safer than brix hill. triangular area between brix, stockwell and clap north also has lots of nice, affordable rents but make sure not to live on landor road itself unless you want to be hassled to buy drugs every single evening.

brix, herne hill area has far more variety of shops, restaurants, nightlife than anywhere else i know of in south london. having said that, it's still not exactly a utopia.

barbarian cities (jaybob3005), Monday, 28 November 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)

it is a shame no one has asked about other places in south london, like peckham, brockley or deptford, for example

calderdale in the 70s (gareth), Monday, 28 November 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)

i've been to brixton loads for the academy, so my experience is limited to nights and the occasional afternoon trip if i was working w/ a band. based on that experience, i wouldn't live there. the last time i was there, two guys tried to get in the cab with me and the time before that i had to be wonder woman and kick a guy who was trying to grab my friend's bag.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 28 November 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

ps. southeast london is great, though.

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 28 November 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

SW London rules :(

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 28 November 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

SW in dah MANNOR!

Please Snap StressTwig (kate), Monday, 28 November 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

of the little i know about south 'london', i agree with barbarian cities about herne hill: know a few people who live/have lived there and the consensus is mostly positive.

re danger, i have v little first-hand experience of brixton, but having lived in hackney and bow for the past year and a bit - both of which have probably worse reps - i can say that the danger levels are usually overrated as long as you take a sensible amount of care.

The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 28 November 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

Herne Hill is lovely, but kinda expensive. I couldn't afford to buy a one bed flat there, while I could in Streatham.

Please Snap StressTwig (kate), Monday, 28 November 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

it is a shame no one has asked about other places in south london, like peckham, brockley or deptford, for example

well, the thread starter asked specifically about brixton v. streatham, so i suppose that's why we've stuck to those topics, g.

brixton was the first place i lived when i moved to london. i am a bit of a worrier too, and safety did concern me, but i can say that having lived there for the better part of a year, i had no troubles at all. however that's just me. my flatmate was stabbed for his wallet once a few years back over towards brockwell park/water lane, which can indeed be dodgy. i lived off brixton hill on hayter road (past the fridge, before the white horse), and i'd say that generally, the streets on the west side of brixton hill (toward clapham) are nicer, and seem to have less crime/nastiness. vicky is right about how to get around the hub of brixton at night if you feel uncomfortable - just keep walking 'with purpose', and you're normally fine. sure, there can be crowds, drunks, tension, etc, but you'll get that in a lot of places late at night in london...

sadly, i think that a lot of the general 'fear' of brixton has to do with the area having a large black community, and the underlying fear/racism white people have of such things. sure, ignoring ethnicity, the stats do speak for themselves - the crime rate is high in brixton. but it's high in plenty of other parts of london (and england) which don't get as much attention as brixton. of course the riots have a lot to do with that, but that was ages ago! anyway, that's a whole other discussion and i don't want to de-rail the thread about it...

i've felt less safe in plenty of other areas of london. brixton treated me well.

sorry i can't offer any opinion of streatham, though.

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

the crime rate is high in brixton. but it's high in plenty of other parts of london (and england) which don't get as much attention as brixton.

this is true, but these parts aren't as popular with the young (white) professional twentysomethings who find brix so exciting.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

To be honest, I wouldn't want to live in either - although I find Brixton a pretty exciting place to go now and again, I feel a bit nervy wandering off the beaten track there, even if the crime thing is probably exaggerated. I doubt Streatham is really much more or less expensive.

There are better places than both mentioned on this thread - Camberwell has some decent bars and restaurants and nice housing. Peckham Rye (as opposed to Peckham proper) is actually really pleasant and leafy. Herne Hill is also pretty cool but awkward to get in and out of - but then people don't really move to South London for its proximity to the city centre. Unless you want to move to Elephant & Castle, which trust me, you don't.

If you're going anywhere south of the river and have price/transport issues, my recommendation would be Lewisham - you can get bit more for your money and there is always a train or DLR going within the next five or ten minutes, up to about midnight.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

I doubt Streatham is really much more or less expensive.

I meant more or less safe.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

lauren, isn't palaver like that par for the course outside any huge rock show, though?

I never got any trouble living off Effra Road in Brixton, and I never actually felt close to any trouble. It's not a desperately poor area or something. There's all the weed dudes but people mostly keep to themselves. Nobody ever came up to me like "have you got the TIME mate" or anything. I know less about Streatham.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, if my only experience of Brixton was the freaking Academy, I'd hate the place, too. But that'd be true of any neighbourhood with a large venue.

Please Snap StressTwig (kate), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)

isn't palaver like that par for the course outside any huge rock show

not to the degree that i've experienced. i know it's skewed because i'm always there around a big nighttime event, but it's enough to make me think "ugh" (rightly or wrongly) whenever brixton is mentioned.

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)

nine months pass...
i wonder how long it will be, before the new cross venue is converted into flats

-- (688), Thursday, 14 September 2006 10:22 (nineteen years ago)

I walked past it last week and it is no longer painted black! What a blow for the local goth community.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 14 September 2006 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

Vauxhall deserves a mention - it doesn't usually feature in the South London threads.

Bob Six (bobbysix), Thursday, 14 September 2006 10:45 (nineteen years ago)

yes, it has been sandblasted hasn't it?

-- (688), Thursday, 14 September 2006 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

xpost, Nor does Balham, which is the best place I've lived in S. London.

Bidfurd (Bidfurd), Thursday, 14 September 2006 11:02 (nineteen years ago)

Will Self sandblasts Vauxhall first thing every morning.

Marcello Carlin (nostudium), Thursday, 14 September 2006 11:22 (nineteen years ago)


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