Trying to decide if I'm ready for a dog

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Is it time? I def want a dog, and my schedule allows for it, but my SO thinks we should wait. How to decide?

Super Cub (Debito), Sunday, 27 November 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

Will you leave the dog alone during the day?

Are you willing to walk the dog every day? Some breeds needs a lot of exercise.

Will you be having children or do you have kids? Some breeds don't *mix* well with kids.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Sunday, 27 November 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

all that plus, do you have the $$$?

tres letraj (tehresa), Sunday, 27 November 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

My SO and I stop home a couple of times a day, and walking is no problem (we live down the street from a park). Kids will probably enter the picture in a few years, so we'd get a breed that is kid-friendly.

My SO thinks our apt is too dirty for a puppy (old NYC brownstone that hasn't been renovated in a long time). She thinks its too germy or something. Does that make any sense? I think a crappy apt is perfect for housebreaking and other puppy craziness.

Money is perhaps an issue. Anyone have an estimate for costs associated with a small dog?

Super Cub (Debito), Sunday, 27 November 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)

get a nintendog!

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 27 November 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

This article has a detailed chart of the various yearly costs of owning a dog. I don't especially agree with the "spend $1000 on a guaranteed healthy purebred" philosophy, but the estimates look reasonably ranged from low to high cost and very real-world, based on how much my step-daughter's "free" pitbull has cost her over 3 years.

Jaq (Jaq), Sunday, 27 November 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

Thanks Jaq.

Super Cub (Debito), Sunday, 27 November 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

Also, what are your career plans? Do you intend to emigrate? I know you can't predict the future, but remember that any puppy you get (hopefully from a rescue) will probably live at least 15 years. Have you got 15 years to give a wee dog? You're not planning to undertake some massive project that will bring you to the other side of the world or something?

As long as your puppy is vaccinated and gets regular boosters and is wormed and de-flea'd a couple of times a year, it won't care what state your apartment is in. The only drawback is that older, less shiny surfaces are harder to clean poo off.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 28 November 2005 01:01 (twenty years ago)

I'd be wary if you aren't both 100% into ownership. The party less excited then gets bitter about cleaning up puppy crap and it all goes badly.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Monday, 28 November 2005 01:03 (twenty years ago)

Have a baby. If that goes well, then maybe try a puppy.

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Monday, 28 November 2005 01:05 (twenty years ago)

Dogs live for approximately 15 years, I think.

That's great - like a Belle and Sebastian song - xpost.

youn, Monday, 28 November 2005 01:05 (twenty years ago)

I may very well move to the other side of the world sometime in the next 5 years. I would hope to take the beast with me, but I wouldn't want to put a dog through that kind of trip more than once or twice.

There are several reasons why I may not be the best candidate for dog ownership, but I sure do want one. I think I'll sit on the idea for a few months.

Super Cub (Debito), Monday, 28 November 2005 02:22 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps you could rent one for a few months.

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 28 November 2005 02:23 (twenty years ago)

Do you have a friend with a dog you could practice with, maybe dog-sit for a weekend or something? I had a Jack Russell terrier as a god-dog for about a year before I got a puppy.

Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 28 November 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)

maybe you should just get a hot dog

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Monday, 28 November 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)

Volunteer at the humane society. They always need people to help walk the dogs and play with them.

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Monday, 28 November 2005 03:13 (twenty years ago)

http://www.theilliterate.com/archives/illiterati/hallowiener.jpg

Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 28 November 2005 03:14 (twenty years ago)

god, don't get one of those, too inefficient, not even cute

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Monday, 28 November 2005 03:16 (twenty years ago)

I thought I was ready to get a dog when I got mine, but- wow. Puppies are a HUGE amount of work, I think you've never raised a puppy, you'll underestimate the amount of effort. It's so worth it, though. I love looking up from a book and seeing him sitting next to me on the sofa & meeting his eyes & seeing his doggie smile. He's such a snuggly little guy.

lyra (lyra), Monday, 28 November 2005 03:34 (twenty years ago)

the security guards at the airport wouldn't let me play with their dogs. even tho the dogs looked so happy!

also, some lady in first class had a basset puppy in her purse on the return flight. he was so tiny! he wanted hugs!

i want a dog, dammit. or a cat.

kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 28 November 2005 03:35 (twenty years ago)

I forgot to add this- my dog is 6 now, and hardly any work at all. A bit of food in the morning, some in the evening, 3 walks a day. He's all snuggles & playtime & fun & hardly any effort these days.

But the first year that I had him, it was really rough. I remember sitting in my kitchen after he'd puked all over my living room rug & wondering how I was going to manage. I think my exact thoughts were "christ, I made it all the way through college just fine, and through my first months of my first job just fine, and 3 pounds of fuzz are defeating me." I'm sure a lot of new dog owners go through that, but I felt like a failure. So worth sticking with it, though. I brought him to dog training, learned to not leave human food where he could reach it & puke it up, and generally adapted. Owning a dog is the greatest thing ever- you get so much love from them.

lyra (lyra), Monday, 28 November 2005 03:40 (twenty years ago)

my fuzzy boy at a hotel in Portland:

http://static.flickr.com/23/32487184_c2a426e9e8.jpg

lyra (lyra), Monday, 28 November 2005 03:44 (twenty years ago)

awww! so cute! i'm sad because the dog i've had since fifth grade is dying. he's 11. i mean he's not dying-dying but he's often in a lot of pain from hip dysplasia and i think he might have to be put down soon. hopefully not too soon. he's still able to stand up to the counter and grab a loaf of bread when no one's home and tear it to pieces all over the kitchen floor. he's always loved bread for some reason, it's weird.

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Monday, 28 November 2005 04:03 (twenty years ago)

i can't even take care of an inflatable penguin

gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 28 November 2005 04:16 (twenty years ago)

aww caitlin. he sounds so cute!
i am in love with my roommate's dog. she's currently sitting on the floor and resting her head on my feet and it's adorable. my roommate sometimes remarks that kujin (the dog) likes me more than she likes her!

tres letraj (tehresa), Monday, 28 November 2005 06:01 (twenty years ago)

gabbneb otm.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 28 November 2005 06:15 (twenty years ago)

also, some lady in first class had a basset puppy in her purse on the return flight

... Keep in mind that bassets are one of the most stubborn dogs around. We still have one left - the other died over two years ago - and she's one stubborn bitch. But I love her to bits.

In regard to puppies: they are a lot of work. We slept in the living room, next to the dog, because one of the dogs was very sick. He pulled through though. But yeah puppies are a lot of work. Once they're grown up, it gets easier.

Will you be training the dog? We tried but the teacher said it wasn't really worth the hassle as our bassets were much too stubborn.

I think if you'll leave your dogs alone for hours on end, then it's not really worth it.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Monday, 28 November 2005 08:28 (twenty years ago)

Dogs have all the emotions that humans do, minus the self-analysis. They get abandonment issues if you have to leave them alone too long. Wolfish or mutt dogs are usually smarter and easier to teach (Overbred dogs tend to have A.D.D.), particularly if you get them at a Pavlovian early age -then they mostly want to find out what you want them to do. Getting a puppy is better than getting a dog already imprinted. A puppy will learn to live YOUR lifestyle. It's hard for dogs to unlearn (a friend of mine got a dog from the pound that cowered under chairs its whole life from early abuse). The more time they can spend outside when they're puppies, the better since they teach themselves not to shit and piss in the house.

My dog died at fifteen last year. Having him ended up having a much larger effect on my life than I would've thought. I ended up travelling by car all the time and only going places I could get to that way. When he was young we were out in the sticks so I didn't have to tie him up or walk him with a leash. When he was 4 we lived in NYC and he didn't need a leash (he felt safer close to me anyway). I only hit him 3 times in his life: once when he killed a chicken (we lived on a farm); the first time he ran into the road; and when he took food out of my 2-tear-old daughter's hand. He never did any of those things again. He learned not to beg because we'd reward him for not bothering us at the ends of meals. My friends passively taught their dog over a hundred words, by saying the words when the dog did whatever it was: when it sat they said sit, when it barked they said bark, stuff like that, then when they'd say the word the dog would do it. Cool.

The good food is worth the expense. I always gave him natural (not Purina Chow) food and he didn't have tumors like most old dogs get.

As for the germy apt, dogs have incredible immune systems. Their saliva is kind of antibiotic. If you have to paper train just put the turds on the paper and the dog will figure out the drill pretty quickly. Don't spank them or any of that, they don't want to live in shit any more than you do. As for children, almost any dog will want to love and protect any that come along, even pitbulls love their families' babies. Almost any environment is good for them if they know what's expected of them and all that. Their greatest skill is their adaptability, but they have to adapt when they're young. It's sort of true about not teaching old dogs new tricks. They're very linear in how they learn. When they're young they have a lot of energy and need roughhousing and play. Bored puppies can be very destructive.

Dogs also like routines, they like knowing what happens next (walk after food etc.) it makes them feel secure and that makes them behave well. They really want to co-operate, they've evolved for that, and if their humans understand them a little they'll be great friends and comrades. They don't like, or respond positively, to yelling.

They get over hardships like long trips very quickly. My mom always said they didn't have the same sense of time as us, so the past is just the past to them and they aren't much interested in it.

I worked in kennels when I was in high school and have been around dogs and other critters most of my life. The English lady ("Walkies!") who says there aren't any bad dogs (only foolish owners) is right.

steve ketchup, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 03:27 (twenty years ago)

Thanks Mr. ketchup. That was a great post.
I've just ordered a couple of books on dog training from Amazon. I'll start by reading those.

Super Cub (Debito), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 04:15 (twenty years ago)

If you have to paper train just put the turds on the paper and the dog will figure out the drill pretty quickly
Crate training is apparently the way forward now. You can use it to toilet train your dog, and also to teach it not to climb on the furniture.

The big advantage to rescue dogs over puppies (apart from your own sense of well-being at saving a dog's life) is that they are eternally grateful to you.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 07:38 (twenty years ago)

definitely get a rescue dog. please.

the one we got is a heeler/Aus. shepherd mix. Smart dog which means she gets bored very easily. And she's only a year and 7 months which means she has way too much energy.

As you can tell I'm more of a cat person and was pushing for a lazier dog like a lab or something.

Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)


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