I've quit Levi's...

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I bought a pair of brand new dark blue straight-leg Wranglers.

I'm just sick of the Levi's aesthetic, they've gotten so far away from the original plan... low hip-hugger bootcut rocker bullshit. Wranglers remind me of 'Hud,' which is probably the greatest fashion ideal imaginable.

Oh, apparently low jeans are out this year for the ladies... I'm a little sorry, I enjoyed the buttcracks while they lasted.

― andy --, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

Ill-fitting clothing trends are destined to die quickly. cf. Kriss Kross.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

high waisted jeans are far more ill-fitting than low waisted ones.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

Fashion retailers deciding something is "out" doesn't always work. They tried phasing out giant baggy pants for teenage boys when my sons were in high school. Didn't stick.
So don't despair. The buttcracks may be around for a while.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

I always feel like someone's dad when I see butt crack. "Where are the rest of your pants, young lady?"

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

Why you break heart all time?

― gygax¡ (ex machina), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

I heart Wranglers.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

Beth OTM, they keep trying to phase out all sorts of things with jeans that just keep sticking. Jeans have a much longer fashion cycle than other types of clothing, I've found.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

I've been seeing some buttcracks around, but among the San Francisco fashion-leader girls, I've definitely seen a move away from Darkness-loving rocker chick-mode into something new, yet undefinable.

― andy --, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

I'm with you on the high-waist ill-fittingness, Ally. I got a pair of jeans at the thrift shop with too high of a waist and had to throw them out. Everytime I sat down they cut into my belly like a medieval torture device.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

http://daily.greencine.com/archives/newman-hud.jpg

THAT'S the cut I want.

― andy --, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

You sure you got the package for those?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

they keep trying to phase out pointed shoes for women too. not gonna happen.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

No, those come back in every 3 months.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

The high-waisted jeans for women only really work if you a) have a pretty flat stomach and b) loveLoveLOVE your hips and waist a la Scarlet Johanssen in that fashion show photo, because they make any curvature totally obvious. If you don't want to put your waist and thighs on a platter, stick to hip-height.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

Also those short sort of gaucho-cut pants are in, and with a low waist they look retarded.

― andy --, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

I'm short waisted so I can't even begin to describe the issues I've had with high-waisted jeans.

gaucho-cut pants /= jeans. Also they almost always look retarded anyway.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

"I'm short waisted"??? Explain.

― andy --, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

upper body significantly shorter than lower body, opposite of long waisted.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

"leggy"

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

The upside of being short-waisted is that Ally is pretty much all leg, so I refuse to feel very sorry for her fitting woes.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

You know, I just realized that my favorite winter pants, which are totally frumpy wide-wale corduroys, have a high waist. I'm wearing them right now and they aren't causing me the least discomfort. Maybe if the high waist is large enough it's okay. Also, these have a pleat so they fall baggy right from the waistband. Maybe the tightness below the waistband of high jeans adds to the pain. Maybe I should cut out all the Cozy Shack pudding. NOOOOOO!!!!!

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

I like the H&M jeans because they fit right (ie., not baggy) and they are cheap, and you can get any color/fade in any style; no "only dark blue if you get relaxed fit" bullshit. I like my jeans like I like my women, dark and tight.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

My favorite Levi's have always been the rigid ones where it takes ten washes just to wear them. Eventually they shrink to fit your body and they last years. They fade wonderfully if you have the patience.

― laurence kansas (lawrence kansas), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

I don't want sympathy! I never liked the way high waists looked anyway! Not on pants, at least.

― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

Beth, I would ask if you're my mother but I'm pretty sure she doesn't know what Cozy Shack pudding is.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

Nick, my favorite pair of jeans of from h&m.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

Laurel, I have recurring dreams where I suddenly remember that I have another child that I'd forgotten all about. Always a daughter!

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

This fashion show? I think they made fun of Johannson on gofugyourself for these.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/ludoedka/00480m.jpg

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

levi's are the only jeans i can regularly find in my length, and usually not even then.

― dabnis coleman's ghost (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

I wouldn't make fun of SJ, I think if you love your ass that much and you have a tiny waist for contrast, go for it. She's hot, there's no question, and I like that she reclaims the hips & thighs -- but I couldn't do it.

I like Lee dungarees best, I have two pair in different sizes but the store doesn't carry them any more. Are Lees some kind of JC Penny/awful-department store thing?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

I haven't had any Levi jeans for years, my best pair are the black Diesel ones I got for £20 in TK Maxx. I like the £20 cords from Uni Qlo, they have no leg size at all, you're only okay if you're tall.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

I got a bunch of Free-vi's a couple years back ( they are based in San Francisco, after all), but they were those 'old' style gold miner ones and I didn't like them, I gave them to a buddy.

I guess I was sort of disappointed too about them closing the last US factory. They say now that only 3% of clothes bought in the US are made in the US. (My wranglers are made in Mexico, BTW, not China! VIVA!)

― andy --, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

I never thought I'd say it, but Scarlett looks ridiculous in that picture.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

(O another thing, my wranglers have a chocolate bar on the ass just like the Toughskins of yore.)

― andy --, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

Scarlett looks ridiculous in that picture

OTM. Do those come with a free minivan?

They're like some sort of indigo anti-lust device.

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

Scarlett looks ridiculous in numerous pictures.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

These are better photos of the woman, but seriously, if you hate the jeans you're gonna hate them all:

http://static.flickr.com/18/68715265_ea24445340.jpg http://static.flickr.com/15/68715262_1f9dc36c74.jpg

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

It's true :(

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

It's Rizzo from Grease!

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

OMG! White bra, black top! That's a faux pas! (I've gone all metrosexual)

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

She looks just fine. Holy shit—the lipstick+the nails+the pumps? The whole thing is referencing a byegone era. She's all about that, don't you think?

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

And I love the glowing bra.

― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

most ridiculous S-Jo photo ever:
http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/5360/bac002404scarlettjohansson4ez3.jpg

not linked as it's safe-for-work but your boss might not appreciate it.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

xxpost I guess if you're going for that "I HAVE A GIANT 4X4 BUTT" look.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

i thought this would be someone else's thread

― oooOoOoOOoOoOOoOoOooo (dr g), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

WTF? (hurt...)

― andy --, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

― Gerard (Gerard), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

Skipping 45 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

His pants sound cool. xpost

― andy --, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

WRANGLER, PPL.

Rustler's are good, too. Ditto Carharrt's. Basically, if I can't get them at Fleet Farm, I'm not wearing them.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

The wranglers are cool because they're brand new dark indigo, no wash or wear at all. I remember my buddy's dad telling us about jeans in the early sixties (he was a biker); you bought them and NEVER washed them, 'til they could stand up by themselves in the corner.

― andy --, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

Carharts have a wierd cut. YOu either have to have the crotch at your knees or the waistband on your nipples.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

Alex in NYC's gonna kick your ass, man.

LOL -- i thought of that! though alex still has a few years of 30-somethingness left :-)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

Well, they have a practical cut: my double-knees ride *exactly* at my waist, which is good for working in. I have to get them too big in the waist for them to ride low like my favorite jeans.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

i like the baggy look -- though my baggy look is more preppy-ish than gangsta-ish.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

I HATE the baggy look. So '96.

― andy --, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

I like relaxed boot-cut jeans. Some definition to the leg, but wide enough to wear Pumas or Docs and not ball-hugging like your Wranglers.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

Mmm... ball-hugging.

― andy --, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

Like information, balls just want to be free.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

I just buy my Wranglers a little too big and cut them off at the bottom. Comfy.

Baggy jeans are for asshole frat boys.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

Ugh, Wranglers with a slit side or cut-off are a teenage memory I'd like to forget. Every wannabe shit-kicker in town...

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

I believe Alex in NYC has ditched Chucks for good, for exactly the reasons described above. Of course, he may now be rocking the special edition Motorhead Vans.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

Every wannabe shit-kicker in town..

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

To complete the ensemble you need a pair of http://www.justinboots.com/BOOTS/images/boots/414.jpg.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)

With those boots and levi's, you'd look like a bear, not a shitkicker.

― andy --, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:40 (twenty years ago)

Ppl that wear those boots do not wear Wrangler's, they wear knickerbockers.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

I'm afraid my shit-kicking aunt wears those boots. But she wears Rocky Mountain jeans, not Wranglers. Now that's some shit-kicking!

I like Dickies. They also are available with no wash (dark, dark, plenty of time to fade) and you can buy them at the grocery store. convience.

seriously, I hate anything that pre-fades the jeans b/c that just means I'll have to replace them sooner!

― Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:56 (twenty years ago)

Member when Banana Republic was all Pitfall Indiana Jones looking? I want to bring back that looks, because it spells ADVENTURE!

that would rule. it'd be so much better than what they have now!

― dar1a g (daria g), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

nine months pass...

I'm totally digging levi's 514s. ALSO: Levi's "Slim" line are too skinny even for me!

― Really cool, wickedly cool, cooly cool bon apetit! (ex machina), Friday, 15 September 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

i thought pete would revive this.

― p@reene (Pareene), Friday, 15 September 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

anyway, i pretty much only wear levi's and dickies, but i don't have any 514s. pair of 505s and three 501s of varying age, style and fit.

the dc levi's store is in lame-ass georgetown. anyone have the shrink-to-fit 501s? are they actually like old 501s or or they like whatever the hell they're selling as 501s at sears?

― p@reene (Pareene), Friday, 15 September 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

How can they be too skinny FOR JON??

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 15 September 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

maybe i should have played around with the sizes more but i wasn't crazy about the washes and the 514s (28x30) are good

― Really cool, wickedly cool, cooly cool bon apetit! (ex machina), Friday, 15 September 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

i really tried to buy some levi's but the butts are too saggy for my white girl ass... made my butt look frumpy. hmmph!

― fellini-esque-lit-rockist (tehresa), Friday, 15 September 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

levisstore.com changes their size availability every day WTF its the internet and you make jeans

im ordering 511 32X32

jon, i didnt try on 514's, but the 511's seemed righteous when i went to a 32.

― Lazy Comet (plsmith), Friday, 15 September 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

HAHAHAHA 28???? JESUS CHRIST YO

― Lazy Comet (plsmith), Friday, 15 September 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

my friend swears by 70's 517's

― Lazy Comet (plsmith), Friday, 15 September 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

Man, I'm getting fat. I'm up to a 32 inseam, though I have to wear a belt with it.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 15 September 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

i wear a 31 in 501's, but a 32 in the skinny cut

― Lazy Comet (plsmith), Friday, 15 September 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

also big inseam doesnt mean yr fat

― Lazy Comet (plsmith), Friday, 15 September 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

yeah that means yr tall, right?

― fellini-esque-lit-rockist (tehresa), Friday, 15 September 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

long legs, at least

― Lazy Comet (plsmith), Friday, 15 September 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

i'm up to a 33 these days -- and to think, that @ jon's age i was 28x30 too!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Friday, 15 September 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

Oops, yeah, I meant waist. My inseam is way fatter than that.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 15 September 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

this thread is not what i expected

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 15 September 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

It's a shame how far Levi's have fallen since the glory days, though the LVC line is a large improvement. Most of the American public seems to love the predistressed jeans with nasty washes and fabric of dubious quality though. There is a fantastic denim store in SoHo, JW, but it isn't cheap.

― ALLAH FROG (Mingus Dew), Friday, 15 September 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

i'm totally stoked on levi's lately. got a pair of Reds slim straights and a pair of Capital E Stacked Skinny that i'm really digging. jon, the skinny's really are like tights, but i went up a size and they look good. it's so funny how a year ago pants of mine that i thought were soooo skinny are my baggy jeans.

― jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 15 September 2006 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

slocki, gygax still works there

― jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 15 September 2006 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

that is why this thread is not what i expected!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 15 September 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

i figured

― jaxon (jaxon), Friday, 15 September 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

earnest sewn and cheap monday on my ass

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 15 September 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

i think if i was a 28 i'd be dead

― katie quirk (dubplatestyle), Friday, 15 September 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

i do need to find a good pair of jeans tho

― katie quirk (dubplatestyle), Friday, 15 September 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

Nice choice with the earnest sewn, Cutty, but YELLOW CARD for the cheap mondays.

― ALLAH FROG (Mingus Dew), Friday, 15 September 2006 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

why you hating on my cheap mondays? earnest sewn harlan's are all i want to wear.

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 15 September 2006 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

i have three pairs.

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 15 September 2006 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

Joeks! Not my style, I've become a whore for high end raw denim, but rock what you like. I'd beat the hell out of the earnest sewns though, nice denim looks great once you've really got it broken in from heavy wear.

― ALLAH FROG (Mingus Dew), Friday, 15 September 2006 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

i miss gygax, guys.

― disappointing goth fest line-up (orion), Saturday, 16 September 2006 02:49 (nineteen years ago)

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