2001: A Space Odyssey

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Judging from the film ballots, you've all seen it on small black-and-white TVs.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

i watched it with joel coens dick in my mouth and ethan coens in my ass

― oooh, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

i now understand blood simple a Hole lot better

― oooh, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

ihttp://www.duffgardens.net/media/images/2001.gif

― Gerard (Gerard), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.duffgardens.net/media/images/2001.gif

― Gerard (Gerard), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

ethan otm

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

I saw in on the big screen on acid once (in high school) and it's really, really fucking good, especially when they make that planet.

― andy --, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

needs more explosions and quotable dialogue. also, the music sucks.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

OK, I figured.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

on the other hand, monkeys...

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

and if only Morricone had scored it and Steve McQueen played Bowman.

btw, David Bowie, your new handle suits you, with the IQ and all.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't seen very many movies from the '60s. I voted for Planet of the Apes (monkeys!), Lawrence of Arabia, MASH, The Graduate, North By Northwest, Goldfinger, Easy Rider, and Cool Hand Luke.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

and if only Morricone had scored it and Steve McQueen played Bowman.
That would have been good, yes.

Paul Newman could have voiced HAL, too.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

So more like 2010, then.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

I was thinking Enemy Mine.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

also, this Kubrick guy is so obviously unfamiliar with teh laws of robotics, wtf

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

I'm encouraged that when I last saw it (December 2001) the audience laughed at the Dr Floyd briefing-room and space station dialogue, getting the satire. Many clueless critics in '68 complained about the curiously dull bureaucratese.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

also, who are these people? I mean, what else have you seen Keir Dullea in?!

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.sensesofcinema.com/images/top/2001_ape.jpg

if you're gonna be a monkey, be a gorilla

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

Dullea:

Bunny Lake Is Missing
David and Lisa

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

Black Christmas! He was terrible in that.

― Matt #2 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Dullea is kind of appropriate, don't you think?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

What do you expect from an *astronaut*? They're all military lunkheads who idolize George Lazenby.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

William Sylvester turned up in MST3K-worthy fare a few times, in Devil Doll and in some TV movie.

― monkeybutler, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

this used to be my favourite movie. i still kinda love it.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

s1ocki, gimme a hug.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

Gus: [gruff gus mode] Say, Hot Dog; what the hell does "astronaut" mean, anyway?
Gordo: [thinks for a moment] Star Voyager
Gus: "Star Voyager Gus Grissom"; I kinda like the sound of that.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

TS: the monkeys in 2001 vs the monkeys in Aguirre

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

i LOVE the right stuff too.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

This is one of my favorite things right now.

― Lemmy Caution (sleep), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

a few other military lunkheads

Russell Schweickart, BS and MS from MIT who did research in the Experimental Astronomy Lab there

Buzz Aldrin, an MIT PhD in Astronautics

Frank Borman, a Cal Tech MS in Aeronautical Engineering, and graduate of Harvard B School's Advanced Management Program

Story Musgrave, MBA (UCLA) and MD (Columbia) and member of the New York Academy of Sciences who has studied at an advanced level math, computer science, chemistry and neurophysiology

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

David and Lisa is awful, awful.

― detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

Anybody else play "Buzz Aldrin's Race Into Space" for PC? As a budding aerospace engineering student, it was my fave game for a long time(along with Wing Commander II and X-Wing).

Unfortunately, most NASA gigs in places I'd never live(central florida, houston, los angeles, cali desert, sunnyvale, etc).

― kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

I-erny, gabb; just batting down the idea of some exciting Studio fruitcake in Dullea's place. And if Clarke and Kubrick had made Bowman like Pete Conrad, it woulda kinda derailed the Ligeti and Strauss mood. (Boy Morbius had an Apollo scrapbook.)

Have, somewhere, a battered paperback called The Making of 2001 with lots of fascinating production details (I think it's stayed in print).

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

2001 in 70mm @ the Cinerama Dome in Hollywood (before they ruined it) was the best thing ever.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

It was my #2 in the poll. Strangelove was my #1.

― Keith C (lync0), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

incredible

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/colinohara/kubrick-2001.jpg

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

when i was still a student, we had some nasa-employed alumni come in and give a little talk about long-distance space travel(how you get to mars w/o going nuts, etc). some of them sat down one day to watch the footage of that spinning sequence, and figured out that it'd work fine, except that they were off. Either the carousel would have to be 2-3 times wider, or spin 2-3 times faster.

― kingfish hobo juckie (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

I saw it as a pup at the NYC Ziegfeld on the first major re-release in '74; the first film with a narrative I had to struggle with. And I knew nothing about the primordial stuff going in, so you can imagine, wtf.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

still one of my favourite films of all time. the beaurocratic banter totally makes it. "i'm afraid i'm not at liberty to discuss it" - love that.

once saw a back-to-back screening of 2001/2010. i am probably one of the rare few who thought 2010 wasn't so bad... hell, i even read that damn 2061 book. is clarke still alive?

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

the birthday party for poole

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

SEE YOU NEXT WEDNESDAY

john landis really ran with that...

― Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

There's a running birthday motif -- Floyd's [played by Kubrick's] daughter, Poole, HAL's (recalled as he dies) and Bowman/Star Child's.

2010 wasn't hideous, but it inevitably literalized everything. Tragic mundanity.

I didn't recall Clarke's status, but he just got honored in Sri Lanka (his adopted land).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_C._Clarke

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

x-post

is clarke still alive?

very much so! and living in shri lanka.

i love 2001.

― latebloomer: The Corridor (Yes, The Corridor) (latebloomer), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

Floyd's [played by Kubrick's] daughter, Poole

I wonder if she ever got her bush baby.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

What's Dullea's other movie? About a hostile youth in a group home?

― andy --, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

The Hoodlum Priest? And he's in the currently filming CIA film directed by de Niro:

http://imdb.com/name/nm0001158/

xpost

And "The Dawn of Man" birthday ... which covers both the man-apes and the moon excavation.

HAL was originally voiced by Bronx-accented Psycho detective Martin Balsam. I do a decent impression of HAL's rendition of "Daisy."

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

What I hear when I receive e-mail.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

Part of my ex-roomie's email is "ae35" (falsely malfunctioning unit on Discovery).

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

I just think 2001 is boring. The only Kubrick I can get into is War Kubrick. The rest (that I've seen) comes across as masturbatory rubbish. I AM STANLEY KUBRICK I AM SO FREAKING YOU OUT RIGHT NOW LOL. That's what I hear, in my head, during that stupid slow-motion blood spilling out of the walls shot in Shining. Or the space baby thing with the fanfare. Give it a rest, beardo.

Full Metal Jacket
Dr. Strangelove
Spartacus
Paths of Glory

I like all of these! I really do! And except for FMJ I liked all of them BEFORE I ever had any intention of joining the cast of MASH so there!

BTW Joshua could whup HAL's ass.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

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omg it's actually on Steam

― Two Meter Peter (Ste), Saturday, 28 November 2020 09:15 (four years ago)

and discounted at 60% off. so under a couple of quid

― Two Meter Peter (Ste), Saturday, 28 November 2020 09:17 (four years ago)

Someone has now removed it

― meditate in my direction (morrisp), Sunday, 29 November 2020 17:19 (four years ago)

“Someone”

― calstars, Sunday, 29 November 2020 17:55 (four years ago)

― meditate in my direction (morrisp), Sunday, 29 November 2020 18:02 (four years ago)

Whichever federal agency manages that land sure as shit needed to remove it, especially after those helicopter cowboys showed up on that youtube that forks linked, above.

― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Sunday, 29 November 2020 20:13 (four years ago)

The agency says they didn’t. Maybe they’re lying, but they’re the ones who announced its existence to the public in the first place.

― meditate in my direction (morrisp), Sunday, 29 November 2020 20:16 (four years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/9pYVabH.png

― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 29 November 2020 20:21 (four years ago)

Simplest explanation is that the aforementioned cowboys, or others like them, made off with it.

― meditate in my direction (morrisp), Sunday, 29 November 2020 20:21 (four years ago)

good riddance

― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Sunday, 29 November 2020 20:29 (four years ago)

this was cool as an idea but the internet kinda ruins everything.

― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 29 November 2020 20:38 (four years ago)

Simplest explanation is that the aforementioned space cowboys, or others like them, made off with it.

― calstars, Sunday, 29 November 2020 21:00 (four years ago)

The fuck’s your problem?

― meditate in my direction (morrisp), Sunday, 29 November 2020 21:10 (four years ago)

huh?

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 29 November 2020 22:21 (four years ago)

Space cowboys? More like some JOKERS.

― pplains, Monday, 30 November 2020 01:12 (four years ago)

Oh, I get it. Apologies I flew off the handle, should have read more carefully.

― meditate in my direction (morrisp), Monday, 30 November 2020 01:30 (four years ago)

gangsters of love iirc

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 November 2020 01:37 (four years ago)

of what do you speak?

― huge rant (sic), Monday, 30 November 2020 02:12 (four years ago)

The pompatus of love?

― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 30 November 2020 05:44 (four years ago)

or perhaps Maurice

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 November 2020 06:50 (four years ago)

A (shoddy-looking) copycat effort has surfaced in Romania.

― meditate in my direction (morrisp), Monday, 30 November 2020 20:28 (four years ago)

Angry mob of locals

https://boingboing.net/2020/11/30/utah-monolith-was-removed-and-broken-down-by-annoyed-locals.html

― Alba, Monday, 30 November 2020 23:54 (four years ago)

(After trying so smash it with bone, obv)

― Alba, Monday, 30 November 2020 23:54 (four years ago)

it was probably an alien disc that had many cures for many diseases n we DISTROYED IT?

― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, 30 November 2020 23:55 (four years ago)

"This is why you don't leave trash in the desert" and "Leave no trace" otm

― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 00:58 (four years ago)

Maybe they really loved some peaches?

― pplains, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 01:34 (four years ago)

one year passes...

Can anyone identify this painting from the beyond the infinite hotel room?

https://ro.nu/2001/d.html

― ledge, Friday, 25 November 2022 11:29 (two years ago)

https://ro.nu/2001/d1.png

― ledge, Friday, 25 November 2022 11:29 (two years ago)

and this one:

https://ro.nu/2001/c1.png

― ledge, Friday, 25 November 2022 11:31 (two years ago)

Oh, I'm sure I've seen something or read about these, let me look through my books.

I seem to recall that they were recycled (Barry L possibly) but I could be wrong.

― MaresNest, Friday, 25 November 2022 11:51 (two years ago)

As always with Kubrick, nothing is straightforward.

https://idyllopuspress.com/idyllopus/film/2001_boucher.htm

https://www.reddit.com/r/StanleyKubrick/comments/igrfi5/can_someone_identify_this_painting_from_2001_its/

― MaresNest, Friday, 25 November 2022 12:00 (two years ago)

yes that's definitely the same one in 'the man who knew too much', not that that makes it easier to identify! the fact that two of the paintings have been identified suggests that, even if they were painted for the studio, they were copies of genuine works rather than complete pastiches.

― ledge, Friday, 25 November 2022 12:09 (two years ago)

feel like he missed a trick here: itt: paintings that are plot-points in movies and TV that are terrible paintings (or excellent ones if there are any)

― mark s, Friday, 25 November 2022 12:11 (two years ago)

https://live.staticflickr.com/4480/24097904808_9ab1284082_b.jpg

― mark s, Friday, 25 November 2022 12:13 (two years ago)

Assumed the revive was for 2001 winning the Sight and Sound poll.

― Dan Worsley, Friday, 25 November 2022 13:22 (two years ago)

Tangentially related — Idyllopus Press’s cluster of analyses around the painting in Lolita are, as usual for that site, an absolute tour de force. (I read the middle one recently)

― "Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Friday, 25 November 2022 16:32 (two years ago)

My first thought on hearing that one painting is in both 2001 and The Man Who Knew Too Much isn't to theorize on shared themes or elaborate callbacks. I think it means they used the same prop house.

― Hideous Lump, Friday, 25 November 2022 20:08 (two years ago)

ah but clearly Kubrick chose to work with this film studio so as to gain access to that prop house and therefore...

― Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 25 November 2022 20:28 (two years ago)

To me the beauty of these deep, intertextual analyses isn’t to get hung up on what % of the stuff is actually “intentional”; but to enjoy the connections being made and themes/observations being drawn out.

― "Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Friday, 25 November 2022 20:37 (two years ago)

(When I read the Idyllopus write-up on EWS, I thought maybe 70% of her observations were brilliant/mind-blowing, and 30% a wild stretch… for The Shining, I would maybe reverse those numbers, but still really enjoyed reading it.)

― "Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Friday, 25 November 2022 20:47 (two years ago)

Wow, first I've heard of those series. They out to put them in print.

― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 25 November 2022 21:36 (two years ago)

She gets pretty "out there" – but the degree of cultural knowledge that she brings into play is incredible. I've also never seen anyone analyze a film so closely... and there's obviously a lot of grist for the mill there (as a basic example, I had never realized that Kubrick moves props around and stuff).

― "Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Friday, 25 November 2022 22:30 (two years ago)

(I would also highlight this piece called The Problems with Discussing Stanley Kubrick's Lolita... it's somewhat of a departure from her usual format, in that it's a lengthy, somewhat personal rumination/essay on "problematic" art & artists – obv. a very familiar subject these days, but she goes places that were new to me, and I thought it was really good and thoughtful.)

― "Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Friday, 25 November 2022 22:37 (two years ago)

Another good "Supplemental" piece (sorry, my last post) is The Real Horror of The Shining: The Misogyny of the Audience for Wendy Torrance.

― "Mick Wall at Kerrang!" (morrisp), Friday, 25 November 2022 22:42 (two years ago)

two years pass...

https://i.imgur.com/zjzQNp2.jpeg

― pplains, Wednesday, 30 July 2025 21:49 (three days ago)

https://jumpshare.com/embed/9McEBDvgJBmjK8wo30MH

― conrad, Wednesday, 30 July 2025 22:13 (three days ago)

If that's what they're eating in space, I'd rather be in the hibernation bed

― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 30 July 2025 22:16 (three days ago)

If you're going to be an astronaut, you have to sacrifice

― Dan S, Wednesday, 30 July 2025 23:19 (three days ago)

it looks like three kinds of refried beans with a side of butter

― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 30 July 2025 23:31 (three days ago)

it's rouge and the thing at the top is a brush, he's about to put on face.

― five six seven, eight nine ten, begin (map), Wednesday, 30 July 2025 23:58 (three days ago)

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