Robert Conquest: THe Dragons of Expectazion

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Anyone read this?

Daniel O Mapo, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

This is the Soviet History guy?

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

Yes.

Daniel O Mapo, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

Storming thread.

Daniel O Mapo, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

The reviews make him sound like an old, allegedly-scholarly cold warrior who can't accept the fact that we're not fighting the commies anymore. In other words...

M. V. (M.V.), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.barnesandnoble.com/images/8400000/8408503.jpg

M. V. (M.V.), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

Conquest was anti-communist long before most of his British academic colleagues - AND HE HAS NEVER LET US FORGET THIS

He was also an old drinking bud of Kingsley Amis

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

I think, like his old drinking buddy, he has a way with words, whatever else you want to say about him.

k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...
Conquest as profiled by...Hitchens.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 4 February 2007 23:52 (eighteen years ago)

what does Robert Conquest have to do with Rise of The Vulcans which was quite an interesting book in its own right.

the Hitchens profile of Conquest captures a complex personality, like most intellectuals he's not easily labelled or pigeonholed.

I was hoping Hitch would repeat the story about Conquest's publishers requesting a new title for a reissue of The Great Terror, his magisterial study of Stalin. "How about I Told You So You Fucking Fools.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 5 February 2007 01:18 (eighteen years ago)

Foreword by Eric Hobsbawm.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 5 February 2007 01:24 (eighteen years ago)

I read this a while back. Roughly a third of it makes some kind of sense. Essentially anything he disagrees with is labelled 'delusion' or 'mania'. He dismisses the French Enlightenment completely. Then we get "I Told You So You Fucking Fools" in chapter after chapter, with the odd bit of new evidence thrown in. He seems to pride himself on being crassly anti-intellectual.

Frogm@n Henry (Frogm@n Henry), Monday, 5 February 2007 04:45 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

I had a dream last night that Conquest was in court on paedophilia charges. It completely smashed his Wise Old Man aura in my mind.

Freedom, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 12:52 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, and The Egyptologists, which he wrote with Kingsley Amis, is a pile of wop. Some of his poems are quite good though. Not good enough to get him off those paedophilia charges, mind.

GamalielRatsey, Wednesday, 17 September 2008 13:10 (seventeen years ago)

six years pass...

I was going to read The Great Terror but decided to wait for Kotkin's Vol 2 of Stalin instead.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/05/russian-region-bans-british-historians-books-from-schools

Keegan & Beevor banned in Russian schools for writing books that are "imbued with the propagandistic stereotypes of nazism", it is an absurd judgement considering how well documented Red Army atrocities are in the Russian archive.

xelab, Thursday, 6 August 2015 07:36 (ten years ago)

Yeah, it's madness however you slice it.

Freedom, Thursday, 6 August 2015 08:19 (ten years ago)

It fits to some extent with the broader idea of Russia reclaiming / reframing its own historical narrative in schools but looks in this case like it might be a local authority getting ahead of itself. The regional education ministries can only influence which books are made mandatory for learners and they don't have the power to get schools to remove particular works from libraries unless they contravene the law. There was a law introduced last year about 'deliberately spreading falsehoods about WWII' but there hasn't been any suggestion so far that any of the books in question fall foul of it.

The issue that probably prompted this, and which is referenced specifically in the letter, is the role of the Soros Foundation in supposedly promoting and publishing books that are aimed at undermining the authority of the state and presenting a negative image of Russia.

It's stupid either way but the main thing to keep an eye on is the state textbooks rather than the status of external narratives.

I wear my Redditor loathing with pride (ShariVari), Thursday, 6 August 2015 08:30 (ten years ago)


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