I want one that heats up the water quick. I want one that will make 2 shots of espresso and then 2 cups of frothed milk, w/o having to reload water. I want the espresso shots to have that nice bit of creaminess when they come out. I want it to be easy to clean. I don't want one that only takes specially designed espresso pods.
― marianna maclean, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
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― alix, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I think there may have been a survey in December 2000's Which? magazine.
― David, Tuesday, 8 January 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)
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― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 25 March 2004 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)
You buy one, you use it three times, you put it away, and never use it again.
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 25 March 2004 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)
― webcrack (music=crack), Thursday, 25 March 2004 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ed (dali), Thursday, 25 March 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 25 March 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)
http://www.fairfaxcookshop.com/images/La%20Pavoni%20Europiccola.jpg
My first experiment produced fair results - about as good as the espresso in my neighborhood coffeeshop, but not exactly great. I understand these things take a little practice (tamping, grind, pulling speed, etc.) I have yet to watch the accompanying video. Also, the burr grinder I picked up seems to be defective and does not work on the finest settings, so I was only able to produce a grind on the lower end of acceptable for espresso.
I used Zabar's espresso, which is probably not the best thing available, but seemed pretty good.
One thing about this machine is that it's a bit light so that when you're pulling the lever it can move around a little - you kind of have to hold it still by one of the parts that doesn't get too hot.
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 24 July 2006 00:23 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.abbode-cookware.co.uk/acatalog/gaggia_classic_brushed_chrome%5B1%5D%20new%20photo.jpg
― Dxy (Danny), Monday, 24 July 2006 00:25 (nineteen years ago)
I made my first espressoey-tasting espresso this morning. I used a grind from my favorite place (since my burr grinder doesn't work properly), and tamped it good and hard. The lever finally gave me that "armful of resistance" I've been hearing it's supposed to give. I also managed to work the steam arm properly and get a good frothy cap.
I wish I had one of these on top, though expensive and purely decorative:
http://www.bella-italia.com/gondola/coffee/pav-AGC.jpg
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 04:23 (nineteen years ago)
― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Monday, 11 September 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)
― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 11 September 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)
Incidentally, did anyone see this?http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/13/dining/13coff.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Has anyone tried these places? I was just talking to someone about how hard it is to get good espresso in NYC, so let's hope this is a real trend.
― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 15 September 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)
― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 21 September 2006 21:22 (nineteen years ago)
just ordered a 3-cup bialetti
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Monday, 9 March 2009 02:11 (sixteen years ago)
just got a 3-cup bialetti & two pretty pavina double-wall espresso cups
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 12 March 2009 18:08 (sixteen years ago)
i love bialettis. but the rubber seal on mine is getting old and frayed. the past few cups i've made have had a gross burnt rubber taste. anyone know where you can buy replacement ones? (haven't checked bialetti's website btw)
― mark cl, Thursday, 12 March 2009 18:33 (sixteen years ago)
yuppie scum: the thread
― abanana, Thursday, 12 March 2009 18:38 (sixteen years ago)
lol bialettis are so cheap dude
― mark cl, Thursday, 12 March 2009 18:39 (sixteen years ago)
3.5 years later, the handle of my pavoni portafilter breaks into pieces - it had completely rusted through because the plastic grip on the handle allows in moisture. The base is getting rusted as well, because the steam wand drips water under the tray. Pretty o_0 for a machine that expensive.
― pithfork (Hurting 2), Monday, 15 February 2010 23:22 (sixteen years ago)
We've had a Saeco Aroma machine for about 4 years now...it ran about $250 when we got it, and it has withstood two morning lattes every day, with weekend lattes as well..and the only thing we've had to replace was the steam nozzle, which was like a $10 part that we bought online. It's semi-automatic (I think)...water-pump, steam enhancer wand thingy, and it's got a pressurized portafilter (cheating, I know). But I'm a fan.
I always coveted the brightly colored Francis! Francis! machine...it looks like a little submarine.
Mr Veg covets the Pavoni, but the look of it kind of terrifies me. Gorgeous, but I feel like I would need a pair of overalls and a shovel full of coal to get it working.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 00:39 (sixteen years ago)
I have never once made a good cup of coffee out of my Europiccola. It's like an art installation at this point.
― antexit, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 01:02 (sixteen years ago)
It's a wonderful and terrible machine. I think one thing that some people find hard to get used to is that in a way it doesn't really "make" good coffee, it just gives you the potential to make amazing coffee. People expect a coffee machine to do everything for you. But a significant downside I'm realizing is its design flaws combined with the terrible and sparse service available, although at least if you're in NYC there's a guy you can get through Porto Rico that works on the machines.
― pithfork (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 01:04 (sixteen years ago)
Dark glossy espresso beans, right? Fine grind with a burr grinder, hard tamp finished with a twist, draw the arm up a little through the grounds slow, let the chamber fill, and then push down real slow and controlled? I got nothing. I watch the youtubes of guys pulling swirly muddy shots thick with crema and it's like I'm a eunuch watching a John Holmes movie.
― antexit, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 01:08 (sixteen years ago)
The Pavoni absolutely seems like it's for the love of the process AND the result...and when you get an amazing espresso out of that machine you know it's not just the machine, it's you as well. Or your understanding of the machine. I bow down to anyone who can pull a shot from something that looks for all intents and purposes like a very attractive drill press. Bow. Down.
― VegemiteGrrrl, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 01:10 (sixteen years ago)
Did you use the "double" filter cup? The single is notoriously too small.
― pithfork (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 16 February 2010 01:59 (sixteen years ago)
Actual lols at antexit's last post. Great stuff.
― Bill A, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 12:58 (sixteen years ago)
dark glossy espresso beans are not ideal for good espresso...you should go with a lighter roast
― dyao, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 13:07 (sixteen years ago)
not really an espresso machine as such but i've never had a better americano than the one the aeropress makes
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 13:11 (sixteen years ago)
we have one of those single-serving espresso machines at work, with the little pods
― max, Tuesday, 16 February 2010 15:24 (sixteen years ago)
makes surprisingly above-average espresso. still not pro barista-level but better than most non-specialist cafes.
Update?
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 6 December 2018 03:21 (seven years ago)
I've been using one of these Delongghi Dedicas for a couple of years now and it has been quite reliable. Coffee snobs would probably not approve but its a good low end unit:https://www.delonghi.com/Global/Products/Images/Coffee-Makers/Pump-Espresso/ec-680r/EC680R-left.jpg
https://www.delonghi.com/en-au/products/coffee/coffee-makers/pump-espresso/dedica-ec-680r-0132106108
My only gripe is the milk doesnt froth really solid thick, but that could be my technique.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 7 December 2018 05:56 (seven years ago)
G-A-G-G-I-A-F-T-W
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 7 December 2018 08:11 (seven years ago)
Still perfectly happy with my Quick Mill 3004 here
― StanM, Friday, 7 December 2018 08:35 (seven years ago)
delonghi magnifica represent
its good
― puppy bash (darraghmac), Friday, 7 December 2018 08:43 (seven years ago)
Obscenely expensive normally but I bought my mom a Breville Oracle on clearance at Bed Bath and Beyond (so just really expensive) - even though it's fully automatic with a questionable grinder it's as good as any espresso shop I've been to (with fresh beans).
― louise ck (milo z), Friday, 7 December 2018 08:56 (seven years ago)