William McGonagall : Destroy & Destroy! Dud Or DUD.

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Scotlands worst ever poet?

http://www.taynet.co.uk/users/mcgon/default.htp (some of his poems are here)
http://www.mcgonagall-online.org.uk/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_McGonagall


This one always creases me up.

The Tay Bridge Disaster

Beautiful Railway Bridge of the Silv'ry Tay!
Alas! I am very sorry to say
That ninety lives have been taken away
On the last Sabbath day of 1879,
Which will be remember'd for a very long time.

'Twas about seven o'clock at night,
And the wind it blew with all its might,
And the rain came pouring down,
And the dark clods seem'd to frown,
And the Demon of the air seem'd to say-
"I'll blow down the Bridge of Tay."

When the train left Edinburgh
The passengers' hearts were light and felt no sorrow,
But Boreas blew a terrific gale,
Which made their hearts for to quail,
And many of the passengers with fear did say-
"I hope God will send us safe across the Bridge of Tay."

But when the train came near to Wormit Bay,
Boreas he did loud and angry bray,
And shook the central girders of the Bridge of Tay
On the last Sabbath day of 1879,
Which will be remember'd for a very long time.

So the train sped on with all its might,
And Bonnie Dundee soon hove in sught,
And the passengers' hearts felt light,
Thinking they would enjoy themselves on the New Year,
With their friends at home they lov'd most dear,
And wish them all a happy New Year.

So the train mov'd slowly along the Bridge of Tay,
Until it was about midway,
Then the central girders with a crash gave way,
And down went the train and passengers into the Tay!
The Storm Fiend did loudly bray,
Because ninety lives had been taken away,
On the last Sabbath day of 1879,
Which will be remember'd for a very long time.

As soon as the catastrophe came to be known
The alarm from mouth to mouth was blown,
And the cry rang out all o'er the town,
Good Heavens! the Tay Bridge is blown down,
And a passenger train from Edinburgh,
Which fill'd all the peoples hearts with sorrow,
And made them for to turn pale,
Because none of the passengers were sav'd to tell the tale
How the disaster happen'd on the last Sabbath day of 1879,
Which will be remember'd for a very long time.

It must have been an awful sight,
To witness in the dusky moonlight,
While the Storm Fiend did laugh, and angry did bray,
Along the Railway Bridge of the Silv'ry Tay,
Oh! ill-fated Bridge of thSilv'ry Tay,
I must now conclude my lay
By telling the world fearlessly without the least dismay,
That your central girders would not have given way,
At least many sensible men do say,
Had they been supported on each side with buttresses,
At least many sensible men confesses,
For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed.

Is there a worse poem by this man?

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Saturday, 10 December 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

God thats good

I DO HENCE DECLARE CLASSIC!

Hairy Asshurt (Toaster), Saturday, 10 December 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Classic in his awfulness and as and inspiration to Spike Milligan.

Ed (dali), Saturday, 10 December 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

CLASSIC! One of the two worst poets ever to live (the other was the Sweet Singer of Michigan, Julia A. Moore. Ashtabula Disaster is a great example of her soaring vision. It seems bad poets can't resist a good bridge disaster.

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Saturday, 10 December 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed.

I think that became the state motto of California.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 10 December 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

But Julia Moore wasn't an intentional parody! So, she's more classic than McGonagall.

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 10 December 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

McGonagall was not an intentional parody - he believed he was an excellent poet!

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Saturday, 10 December 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

this poem is even funnier if you read it to the tune of "we didn't start the fire."

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Saturday, 10 December 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

Look mate, he's better than Andrew Motion, so don't be a haytah, okay?

Amity Wong (noodle vague), Saturday, 10 December 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

http://www.taynet.co.uk/users/mcgon/coverALT.gif

William McGonagall is Dundee's best remembered nobody. He was a man without talent who thought he was a great poet and tragedian and only needed an opportunity to prove it. This made him the perfect target for practical jokers who abounded in his day. He was engaged to give entertainments in small halls just so his audience could make a goat of him. His teetotal drink was spiked with alcohol.

McGonagall had passed middle life before he got the idea he had been visited by the muse. He was born in Edinburgh in 1825 and grew up in Dundee, to which his father moved in search of work. William also laboured long hours in the weaving trade.

All his life he was the butt of cruel jokes, but his faith in himself could not be shaken.

His remains were dropped into a paupers' grave nearly a hundred years ago, but his memory holds up.

All his poems have been published and so are there to be judged: they have, if nothing else, the quality of inimitability.

Until earlier this year his name and portrait flourished over a public house in one of Dundee's main roads and a McGonagall Society endures.

He claims a place on library shelves because his indomitable spirit appealed to authors and essayists.
He made a number of courageous journeys, courageous in respect they were made by a person whose means were generally nil.
He went to Balmoral, 50 odd miles, on foot, in the hope of seeing Queen Victoria. He got no further than the gate and was told never to come back.

To London, then by sea, lured by forged invitations and, to cap it all, to New York, crossing the ocean in the steerage class and arriving with eight shillings.

The streets of New York were not paved with gold for him, and in no time he was appealing to a Dundee benefactor to get him back home.

He should be an indie rock icon!

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Saturday, 10 December 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

hahaha this is fantastic
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_McGonagall

McGonagall also considered himself an actor, although Mr Giles' Theatre, Dundee would only let him perform the title role in Macbeth if he paid for the privilege in advance. Their caution proved ill-founded, as the theatre was filled with friends and fellow workers, anxious to see what they correctly predicted to be an amusing disaster. Although the play ended with Macbeth's death at the hands of Macduff, McGonagall believed that the actor playing Macduff was trying to upstage him, and refused to die.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Saturday, 10 December 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

Jottings of New York

OH mighty City of New York! you are wonderful to behold,
Your buildings are magnificent, the truth be it told,
They were the only things that seemed to arrest my eye,
Because many of them are thirteen storeys high.

And as for Central Park, it is lovely to be seen
Especially in the summer season when its shrubberies and trees are green;
And the Burns' statue is there to be seen,
Surrounded by trees, on the beautiful sward so green;
Also, Shakespeare and Sir Walter Scott,
Which by Englishmen and Scotsmen will ne'er be forgot.

There the people on the Sabbath-day in thousands resort,
All loud in conversation and searching for sport,
Some of them viewing the menagerie of wild beasts there,
And also beautiful black swans, I do declare.

And there's beautiful boats to be seen there,
And the joyous shouts of the children do rend the air,
While the boats sail along with them o'er Lohengrin Lake,
And the fare is five cents for children and adults ten is all they take.

And there's also summer-house shades and merry-go-rounds,
And with the merry laughter of the children the Park resounds
During the livelong Sabbath-day,
Enjoying the merry-go-round play.

Then there's the elevated railroads, about five storeys high,
Which the inhabitants can see and hear night and day passing by,
Oh! such a mass of people daily do throng,
No less than five hundred thousand daily pass along,
And all along the City you can get for five cents,
And, believe me, among the passengers there are few discontent.

And the top of the houses are all flat,
And in the warm weather the people gather to chat,
Besides on the house tops they dry their clothes,
And also many people all night on the house-tops repose.

And numerous ships and steamboats are there to be seen,
Sailing along the East River Water so green;
'Tis certainly a most beautiful sight
To see them sailing o'er the smooth water day and night.

And Brooklyn Bridge is a very great height,
And fills the stranger's heart with wonder at first sight,
But with all its loftiness, I venture to say,
For beauty it cannot surpass the new Railway Bridge of the Silvery Tay.

And there's also ten thousand rumsellers there,
Oh! wonderful to think, I do declare
To accomodate the people of that city therein,
And to encourage them to commit all sorts of sin.

And on the Sabbath-day, ye will see many a man
Going for beer with a tin can,
And seems proud to be seen carrying home the beer
To treat his neighbours and family dear.

Then at night numbers of the people dance and sing,
Making the walls of their houses to ring
With their songs and dancing on Sabbath night,
Which I witnessed with disgust, and fled from the sight.

And with regard to New York and the sights I did see,
One street in Dundee is worth more to me,
And, believe me, the morning I sailed from New York
For Bonnie Dundee, my heart it felt as light as a cork.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Saturday, 10 December 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

It was almost in the year of Our Lord Two Thousand and Six
When Noodle Vague and his beloved Wife went out on the Pizz-ix:
A Year that will with Immortality be forever imbued,
On account of the number of arrests that ensued.

Dark slept the street of St George on that Saturday night,
Except for the occasional inebriated young man looking for a fight,
When the Birthday Party arrived, with one intent,
To imbibe spirituous liquors until their knees were bent.

The moon, bare half-exposed, gazed on the ill-wrought scene,
Featuring several young people who in the morning would not remember where they had been.
And let the Muse of History inscribe this fact:
That Mr Vague was mumbling "Still D.R.E." until out he blacked.

Many mourners sent best wishes to the home of sadness the following day,
Although several dissenters suggested that Vague and his Wife were gay
And ought to stop complaining of the extent to which they were over hung:
On account of how they'd be back in The Piper the following day until "Last Orders" were rung.

Peace out, William Mc-Gonnie-Fucking-Gee in da House.

Amity Wong (noodle vague), Saturday, 10 December 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

And enjoy your birthday piss up Mr Vague!

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Saturday, 10 December 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

No, really, there is good evidence that he was intentionally bad.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 11 December 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

People often quote his Tay Bridge Disaster poem, but forget that a few months earlier he'd written one with almost identical metre, about how great the bridge was.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 11 December 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

It was the fearful night of December 8th
He was returning home from the studio, late
He had perceptively known that it wouldn't be nice
Because in 1980, he paid the price

John Lennon died, John Lennon died, John Lennon died
John Lennon died, John Lennon died, John Lennon died

With a Smith & Wesson, 38
John Lennon's life was no longer a debate
He should have stayed at home
he should have never cared
And the man who took his life declared, he said:

"I Just Shot John Lennon!"
He said: "I Just Shot John Lennon!"
What a sad and sorry and sickening sight
It was a sad and sorry and sickening night

Oh a sad and sorry and sickening sight
It was a sad and sorry and sickening night

"I Just Shot John Lennon!"
He said, "I Just Shot John Lennon!"
What a sad and sorry and sickening sight
It was a sad and sorry and sickening night

Oh a sad and sorry and sickening sight
It was a sad and sorry and sickening night

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 11 December 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

Suggesting that McGonagall has a "metre" is very generous.

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 11 December 2005 23:22 (twenty years ago)

Small children love being read his poetry, hence CLASSIC.

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Monday, 12 December 2005 00:02 (twenty years ago)

It's an open question Chris - I'm of the opinion that he was serious, though there's certainly an appeal to thinking of him as a proto-Kaufman - the page you cite doesn't fall on either side of the question, does it?

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 12 December 2005 00:22 (twenty years ago)

(haha I take it back, I read to the end of the page - it seems somebody spent too long in crit-theory class)

(not you Chris)

(but to infer McGonagall is a satirist on the strength of his lines and then ignore his life, and the experience of those around him, is rather too deep at the well of Text Is All for me)

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 12 December 2005 00:24 (twenty years ago)

Did you miss the whole 2nd half of that article, which describes McG's acting career, and has quotes from those around him who sense that something is amiss in his acting straight-faced when jeered? The whole part that explains why a weaver who lost his job to industrialism might have to turn to parodic poetastic in order to make his living?

That article does leave it a bit open, but I think it makes a strong case. McGonagall doesn't read like Julia Moore or many of the other bad poets (see Nicolas Parson's "The Joy Of Bad Verse" for other amazing examples), he reads like what Ogden Nash would write if he was trying for "bad".

(I should check my copy of the Compleat McGonigall to see if they have evidence for when the poems were first read, but I wonder if he didn't write the "before" Tay Bridge poem after the bridge collapsed, realizing the comic/satiric possibility in presenting the "how awesome is the Tay Bridge" poem in a reading after it had fallen, and then having to present the follow-up poem.)

I'm not arguing against him being C, either way.

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 12 December 2005 00:56 (twenty years ago)

I don't know, Chris, it just seems like an uber-hopeful position to hold. Very, very few people are willing to take a spoof all the way to the grave, and any writer who could intentionally write poetry that world-stoppingly bad would have to be made of stone to not use his talents to, say, write good literature that might make him real money.

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 12 December 2005 02:40 (twenty years ago)

The idea that there is more money in good literature than in awesomely bad literature seems far more uberhopeful.

McG's poems are popular and memorable; if the article is right, then they are clever, satirical, humanist, and well-crafted. If that doesn't qualify as "good literature", I don't know what does; and McG managed to make something of a living on it.

(I think there are other spoofers who have taken their secrets to the grave, although none are coming immediately to mind. I'd have to do some research to remember. I mean, in a completely different category of spoof, there's Billy Tipton...)

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 12 December 2005 06:36 (twenty years ago)

Given that the first Tay Bridge was only open and in use for a few months before it collapsed, it may well be hard to prove that he didn't write the poem after it fell.

Incidentally, I meant to mention: I used to live in the building where McGonagall died. Woo!

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 12 December 2005 07:19 (twenty years ago)

I used to live in the building where McGonagall died.

Holy shit!

Chris we'll have to agree to disagree I guess - I reread that article last night and it really seemed to be jumping through hoop after hoop to arrive at its conclusions: as though it began with the proposition "what if this guy was actually a genius masquerading as an incompetent" and then worked toward its arrived-upon conclusion. I gotta go with Occam's Razor here: the poetry is awful, McGonigal never wrote any poetry that wasn't awful, ergo he was a legitimately awful poet.

Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Monday, 12 December 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
Incidentally, I meant to mention: I used to live in the building where McGonagall died. Woo!

I'm an avid lurker here and I do my laundry in that building.

Jawbone (Jawbone), Sunday, 21 January 2007 07:48 (nineteen years ago)

I think I may have lived in that building too, if it's the one I'm thinking of.

alext (alext), Sunday, 21 January 2007 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

5 South College St

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 21 January 2007 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/7402920.stm

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 16 May 2008 13:14 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

revival for LJ

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 5 April 2010 00:38 (sixteen years ago)

the display name that nobody had to make

william mcgonadal's tay ridge disaster (acoleuthic), Monday, 5 April 2010 00:45 (sixteen years ago)

Beautiful city of Glasgow, with your streets so neat and clean,
Your stately mansions, and beautiful green!
Likewise your beautiful bridges across the river Clyde,
And on your bonnie banks I would like to reside.

404s & Heartbreak (jim in glasgow), Monday, 5 April 2010 01:52 (sixteen years ago)

that is awesome and should be engraved on a plaque in glasgow somewhere

william mcgonadal's tay ridge disaster (acoleuthic), Monday, 5 April 2010 02:09 (sixteen years ago)

The Famous Tay Whale.

WITHOUT FAIL, MOTHERFUCKERS.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Monday, 5 April 2010 13:34 (sixteen years ago)


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