banging: massive oil explosions north of London: them terrists again?

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Texaco oil depot in Hemel Hempstead on fire


"Initial reports said witnesses heard a plane going overhead shortly before the first explosions - but police were quick to dismiss that suggestion, insisting the incident was an "accident"."

"In total, 20 petrol tanks are involved in the fire, each said to hold three million gallons of fuel." 60 million UK gallons, more than 270 million liters.

Any eye/ear/plane/vibration witnesses?

StanM (StanM), Sunday, 11 December 2005 10:16 (nineteen years ago)

No planes have been reported missing and they're saying "accident" so far, so it was most likely a gas leak. The explosion was loud enough that it could be heard 10 miles away in Luton, although typically I managed to sleep right through it.

It sounds fairly horrific, though. Apparently the sky was blacked out over St. Albans.

Philip Alderman (Phil A), Sunday, 11 December 2005 10:30 (nineteen years ago)

There are reports of it being heard 100 miles away.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 11 December 2005 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

By St Albans I mean "Hemel Hempstead". Guh.

Philip Alderman (Phil A), Sunday, 11 December 2005 10:33 (nineteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4517962.stm

Massive explosions hit fuel depot

Eyewitness accounts
Three large explosions have rocked a fuel depot near Hemel Hempstead in Hertfordshire shooting flames hundreds of feet into the sky.
Police say there are 36 casualties, four of whom are being treated for serious injuries.

The first blast happened at 0603 GMT at the Buncefield fuel depot, close to junction 8 of the M1 motorway and was heard more than 100 miles away.

Police believe it was an accident. About 70 firefighters are on the scene.

Earlier rumours a plane was involved were unfounded, said a police spokesman.

Witnesses said another two explosions followed the first at 0626 GMT and 0627 GMT.

In total, 20 petrol tanks are involved in the fire, each said to hold three million gallons of fuel.

Eyewitness Jonathan Barr, who works next to the depot, told the BBC he was thrown from his chair by the force of his blast.

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We heard an explosion and the whole house shook

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The M1 has been closed both ways between junctions 6a and 12.

The M10 motorway is closed in both directions between junction 1 and junction 7 as well as some arterial roads in Hemel Hempstead.

Luton airport is so far reported to be unaffected.

A spokeswoman said no flights have been affected by the explosion and the smoke was not affecting the flight path.

The area near the site has been evacuated, while police have advised residents living nearby to keep their windows and doors closed due to fumes.

Many houses have been damaged, with some reporting feeling effects from the explosion as far away as Oxfordshire, while it was heard in Surrey and Norfolk.


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Eyewitnesses reported buckled front doors, cracked walls and blown-out windows.

The Buncefield depot is a major distribution terminal operated by Total and part-owned by Texaco, storing oil, petrol and well as kerosene which supplies airports across the region, including Heathrow and Luton.

It is also used by BP, Shell and British Pipeline.

"We are doing everything we can to support the emergency services and to bring the situation under control," said a Total spokesman.

'Out-of-control'

One eyewitness, Jonathan Barr, told the BBC he was working a night shift in the building next door to the fuel depot at the time of the blast.

He was sitting in his office "and the next minute I was on the floor and it was pitch black. I was thrown off my chair," he said.

It is a scene of utter devastation

Colin Campbell, BBC reporter

He received cuts and bruises.

He said he and a colleague had to break a window to get out because the doors were buckled.

They got out of the front of the building and were taken to hospital by passing motorists.

BBC reporter Colin Campbell said: "There are huge fireballs gushing out of the fuel depot.

"Many people are standing by filming the scene on mobile phones. There are gigantic flames, it would be impossible to contain at the moment, it is out of control.


The distribution depot is 10 miles from Luton airport

"It is a scene of utter devastation."

BBC correspondent Sinead Wilson, who lives in nearby St Albans said there was a huge plume of smoke covering the sky.

"There is a smell of gas, lots of fire engines, police cars in the area," she said.

"It looks to me as if the entire depot is under fire."

Dave Franklin told BBC News: "There was a massive loud bang which broke windows above us and to the right. The whole sky just turned orange and black."

Michael Vatty said: "The impression was that it was a clap of thunder, but as soon as we got up we saw the flames. We had the garage door blown in, the front door was also blown in."


Philip Alderman (Phil A), Sunday, 11 December 2005 10:36 (nineteen years ago)

It'll probably be blacked out in St Albans too before long.

Just now on the news: "there may be more explosions - police have said they're expecting a couple more tankers to explode this morning"

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 11 December 2005 10:37 (nineteen years ago)

I was woken up this morning by the shock wave hitting south London, which is about 30 miles away. I even told Sarah I thought I'd felt an earthquake and she scoffed :)

Markelby (Mark C), Sunday, 11 December 2005 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

news 24 is a swamp

the satellite image of the smoke is mental.

Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Sunday, 11 December 2005 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

any weblinks to the satellite image?

Ed (dali), Sunday, 11 December 2005 11:39 (nineteen years ago)

This is more likely to be a colossal fuckup than a terrorist attack, I'd say, be still... good grief.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 11 December 2005 11:45 (nineteen years ago)

Do you know something, DC?

Markelby (Mark C), Sunday, 11 December 2005 11:49 (nineteen years ago)

Well the texas explosion earlier this year was a colossal fuckup and most of these plants and depots are pretty old and creaky.

Ed (dali), Sunday, 11 December 2005 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

haha we had to get this news via moldova! i'd been hanging washing out in the garden and came in and said hmm, there's big bruised clouds up there in the north, then the phone rang and it was the russian's auntie telling us to turn on the tv.

apparently people in holland and france said they heard it. i don't think i believe that tho.

everything is all hazy outside!

emsk ( emsk), Sunday, 11 December 2005 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

some of the footage is weirdly beautiful - specifically that taken by two lads who went to the scene immediately with a videocamera ("against police advice" the newsreader keeps reminding us): crazy bright glowing colours reflecting off their faces, looks like heat-camera colours but you know it's not. "we're the closest people to this right now!" one of the boys says to the other.

emsk ( emsk), Sunday, 11 December 2005 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

It was weirdly beautiful out this morning, like the day of the eclipse. My dad says he heard the explosion.

jel -- (jel), Sunday, 11 December 2005 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/05/in_pictures_buncefield_fuel_depot_blast/img/1.jpg

Ed (dali), Sunday, 11 December 2005 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

Amazing footage on News 24 from a helicopter several miles distant - flying under the base of the smoke plume so you can see it curve round with the prevailing winds. Someone clever should do a screencap. Met Office chap reckons the inversion layer at 1000ft helped propagate the sound wave, so its audibility in continental Europe apparently quite believable. I was sleeping the sleep of the dead at 6am, so I didn't hear it.

I'm off to see if the smoke is visible from the top of Gipsy Hill...

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Sunday, 11 December 2005 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

fuck, I was wondering why the sky was so odd.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 11 December 2005 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

I've just remembered - the other day, I was talking to a chap I know who works at the main refinery that supplies this place. He was telling me all about how their company just doesn't do preventative maintenance any more; their management's idea of maintenance is to wait for something to start leaking, then patch it up. So, I'm sure this will turn out to be a leaky joint that nobody managed to spot in time.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 11 December 2005 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

The sky is still blackish here in Reading. Fox News are still running this story as if it's a terrorist attack THE PEOPLE OF ENGLANDSHIRE ARE SCARRED!!

MitchellStirling (MitchellStirling), Sunday, 11 December 2005 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

and already panic-buying petrol, i see.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 11 December 2005 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

a bricklayer who travels past the site every day, and has done for 20 years, has been quoted as having seen "foam leaking from the area" every day for the past week (according to bbc news 24's live press conference).

maybe they were trying to solve the problem but it just got the better of them?

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Sunday, 11 December 2005 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

heard it in shepherd's bush. in fact it was powerful enough to set off a (one single) car alarm in the next street over.

used to live in hemel and worked off maylands avenue which has been mentioned in a lot of the reports, albeit at the other end (office was on three cherry trees lane* which leads to buncefield lane but i lived the other side and can't picture the depot). odd hearing hemel placenames all over the news. my first thought, of course, was that it was the hemel hellmouth opening up...

* twee-est road name ever

koogs (koogs), Sunday, 11 December 2005 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

KERBLAMMO

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Sunday, 11 December 2005 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

I used to live in a Cherry Tree lane.

It wasn't very twee, one of my housmates was an alcoholic sculptor who owned a machete.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Sunday, 11 December 2005 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Some of my relatives used to live in Hemel, but they now live in Milton Keynes where, apparently, the blast 'shook the windows'.

More importantly, my day was ruined: a nice bright sunny day so I decide to head to Epping Forest for a walk. Suddenly the sky turns black and I have to put my headlights on to see where I'm going. Get to the edge of the Forest, and while changing my shoes somehow contrive to lock my car keys in my boot. So rather than a sunny walk in the forest, I have a long, blackened smoky walk through the streets of E17.

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Sunday, 11 December 2005 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

You should go back for good.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Sunday, 11 December 2005 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

The current sunset (over n london) is amazing.

spontine (cis), Sunday, 11 December 2005 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

London's under there somewhere.
http://static.flickr.com/34/72417291_0e6b50b7bd.jpg?v=0

robster (robster), Sunday, 11 December 2005 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

Big pall of smoke over CLerkenwell. As soon as I can find my USB cable I will post photos.

Ed (dali), Sunday, 11 December 2005 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

god, that sky was *filthy*. looked awesome when the sun was going down though.

emsk ( emsk), Sunday, 11 December 2005 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

Christ, people are already panic-buying petrol. The still pictures coming out of this are amazing; there's one where the sky looks like a storm cloud, until you notice that it's coming out of this fire down in the corner. Amazing.

stet (stet), Sunday, 11 December 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Was it not an aviation fuel depot?

MitchellStirling (MitchellStirling), Sunday, 11 December 2005 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

See, you folks now know what LA sunsets are like. And why they look that way. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 11 December 2005 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

i panic bought some petrol earlier.. panic mainly caused by the fact that the car wasn't going to make it home otherwise, though :D

ken c (ken c), Sunday, 11 December 2005 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

ed, that first picture is spectacular.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Sunday, 11 December 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

Thank-you.

There's some good ones in the obligatory Flickr group.

Ed (dali), Sunday, 11 December 2005 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

robster where was that photo taken from ? muswell hill or nearby?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 11 December 2005 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.met-office.gov.uk/satpics/latest_vis.jpg

check out the black cloud visible from that distance.

MitchellStirling (MitchellStirling), Sunday, 11 December 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

ok sorry what the fuck is wrong with yall - talkin cutesy pie shit about sunsets and beautiful skies and what the fuck ever when 36 ppl are dying/dead from this?? wd it be ok for smug hertfordshire fucks to bumrush the 7/7 thread right after it happened to post dreamy pictures of 'beautiful' smoke filled underground stations?? do human lives not count cuz they were working class or cuz they didnt live in london??? fuck it at least ile's indifference to pakistan, sudan, etc can be chalked up to distant provincial ignorance but this is right in yalls backyard, why is every post about how 'weirdly beautiful' it is?

apr, Sunday, 11 December 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

There are 43 casualties, mostly walking wounded without any life threatening injuries, two of them serious, no-one's dying. Calm down.

we didn't start the fire, Sunday, 11 December 2005 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

oh haha i forgot (even tho i learned this on the 7/7 thread i think) that in the uk casualties has a vaguer meaning than over here - sorry yall i thought it was 36 dead ppl!!!!!

apr, Sunday, 11 December 2005 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

makes this thread a lot less disgusting now

apr, Sunday, 11 December 2005 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

it was still a good point though

ken c (ken c), Sunday, 11 December 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

dont get smart dude

apr, Sunday, 11 December 2005 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

Yes it was. But now that's cleared up:

the BBC gallery of the site itself is something
else
...

StanM (StanM), Sunday, 11 December 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

The pics and sunsest have been called "awesome", "amazing", "spectacular", not "beautiful".

xpost

we didn't start it really, Sunday, 11 December 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

robster where was that photo taken from ? muswell hill or nearby?

It looks like the view from Suicide Bridge in Archway.

Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Sunday, 11 December 2005 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

er yeah i did wait until they'd confirmed no one was dead and it was looking like no one would be before saying it was beautiful... i think there are 2 people still in hospital but stable and everyone else is home?

emsk ( emsk), Sunday, 11 December 2005 18:35 (nineteen years ago)


http://atlas.walagata.com/w/feloniousskunk/fuxnews.JPG

Fox's lead picture of what REALLY caused it.

MitchellStirling (MitchellStirling), Sunday, 11 December 2005 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

Teh HoBB OTM. It was taken from the bridge.

robster (robster), Sunday, 11 December 2005 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

oh haha i forgot (even tho i learned this on the 7/7 thread i think) that in the uk casualties has a vaguer meaning than over here - sorry yall i thought it was 36 dead ppl!!!!!

That sentence again:

Police say there are 36 casualties, four of whom are being treated for serious injuries.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 11 December 2005 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, that's right, in Britain the health care is so good, they even treat injured corpses.

StanM (StanM), Sunday, 11 December 2005 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

well yeah thats why i said dead/dying

apr, Sunday, 11 December 2005 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

omg, what a thread! stunning example of how Local colloquialism can alter a person’s idea of what is happening. “Casualties” in the US = DEAD. “Casualties” in the UK = SHAKEN UP A BIT AND PERHAPS HAVE A BRUISE OR SMALL SCRAPE/CUT.

Wiggy (Wiggy), Sunday, 11 December 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

"Police said the blasts appeared to be accidental, though they occurred just four days after an al-Qaida videotape appeared on the Internet calling for attacks on facilities carrying oil "stolen" from Muslims in the Middle East."

(source)

This subtle scaremongering is getting tired, folks. "Just four days" could also prove it wasn't an attack because planning and executing something as large as this in just four days is probably impossible, but noooooo, we're going to only mention "just four days after the tape" and let our readers "form their own opinions."

StanM (StanM), Sunday, 11 December 2005 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

so in us hospitals you have an ER, and in uk hospitals it's called a Casualty ward. It's not full of dead people...

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Sunday, 11 December 2005 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

Given that the company that owned most of Buncefield was "just three days ago" fined several thousand quid for causing an oil leak at one of their refinaries, I'd say it's almost certainly an accident caused by a leak of some kind.

Forest Pines (ForestPines), Sunday, 11 December 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

most of the actors in the respective tv programmes seem to be dead most of the time though.

bah, xpost.

emsk ( emsk), Sunday, 11 December 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

It was probably the new Destroyer album.

bah, xpost as well.

StanM (StanM), Sunday, 11 December 2005 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

Casualties and fatalities are not the same thing.

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 11 December 2005 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

Have been up in Oxfordshire all day so didn't see any of this (fog on the moors here anyway) and didn't get back to London until it was dark - didn't even see the news reports until about 6pm. Crazy.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Sunday, 11 December 2005 23:54 (nineteen years ago)

One thing I find very strange about this is the way people are saying "Phew, it wasn't a terrorist attack", as though huge fucking explosions aren't a problem if they happen by accident.

DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 12 December 2005 00:03 (nineteen years ago)

But surely the sentiment is that it being an accident is still bad, but it being caused intentionally is worse and gives extra problems.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 12 December 2005 00:05 (nineteen years ago)

I just saw the blaze from a plane taking off from Luton airport.

Momus (Momus), Monday, 12 December 2005 01:14 (nineteen years ago)

so in us hospitals you have an ER, and in uk hospitals it's called a Casualty ward. It's not full of dead people...
-- CharlieNo4 (starsandheroe...), December 11th, 2005 8:43 PM. (Charlie) (later) (link)

it's actually called A+E dept though...

ken c (ken c), Monday, 12 December 2005 05:47 (nineteen years ago)

god i was up on highgate hill round sunset, and there was this incredibly ominous sheet of balck cloud, with weird russetty bits (cos of the sunset). wasn't till we got hours later that i saw the news, but it crazy.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 12 December 2005 09:11 (nineteen years ago)

I bet some oil depot worker will drive in to work this morning and say "By the way guys, I think on Friday evening I might have forgotten to switch off the - oh shit!"

James Ward (jamesmichaelward), Monday, 12 December 2005 09:38 (nineteen years ago)

i bet they won't be driving in to work this morning.

ken c (ken c), Monday, 12 December 2005 09:41 (nineteen years ago)

No, that's true. I also guess the imaginary oil depot worker probably wouldn't walk in without noticing the enormous devastation either. What was I thinking?

James Ward (jamesmichaelward), Monday, 12 December 2005 09:45 (nineteen years ago)

he'd probably have seen something about it on the news.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Monday, 12 December 2005 09:46 (nineteen years ago)

i bet they won't be driving in to work this morning.

Cos you panic-bought all the petrol you bastard.

Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 12 December 2005 10:35 (nineteen years ago)

i've set up a stall selling them at £1.50 a litre at the moment. because after i bought the petrol i realised that my car's MOT has expired and so i shouldn't be driving anyway

ken c (ken c), Monday, 12 December 2005 10:54 (nineteen years ago)

The main bun maker for McDonalds is based next to the oil depot, and may be out of operation for weeks.

So start panic-buying Big Macs now, if that's your thing.

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Monday, 12 December 2005 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

you don't need to panic buy things you can just burgle for

ham burglar (ken c), Monday, 12 December 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

I drove under the cloud for what felt like hours yesterday (perhaps that's just the shitty M4 though). It was horrible having the sun blanked out and all the schools and stuff are still closed round that way today, I hope there's nothing that will cause long term misery in that cloud.
p.s. "apr" please post more, you're funny.

Debord (Debord), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

buncefield is right next to junction 8. the m1 seems to be fucked now? is it still closed?
how long is it going to take to die down/smoke to disperse? Life is pretty shitty in hemel anyway, its gonna suck have oily clouds swamping the town. must look good from the top of the Kodak building tho.

cant believe some poor gits got evacuated to Wallyworld/Jarmans Park. Of all the places.....

maybe they got free "sparkling wine" from Visage.

Dacorum hasnt had this much news coverage since those kids using flourescent tubes for light sabres and berkhamsted town getting to the finals of the FA Vase

ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

There's a huge Scottish & Newcastle depot next door, which is thought to have been badly damaged. So that's Xmas booze supplies for most of Southern England gone, then.

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

think the radio just said they've put the fire out.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 01:39 (nineteen years ago)

oh and also biggest fire in EUROPE since wwII? really? 'kinell.

emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 01:40 (nineteen years ago)

five months pass...
Here we go again, citizen journalists:

Several explosions have been reported at the ICI chemical works in Billingham on Teesside, police have said.

Cleveland Fire and Rescue have declared a "major emergency" at the plant.

Cleveland Police have said there are no reports of injuries or details of damage, but they are dealing with a "major incident".

Les Gunn, who lives about four miles away from the plant, told BBC News 24 he was woken by an "absolutely deafening" sound.

"The second one was absolutely huge," he added.

"There was a huge ball of flame."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5035734.stm

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 23:28 (nineteen years ago)

Looks a bit rubbish, innit?:

http://imagesocket.com/images/5189explosion3.jpg

James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 23:43 (nineteen years ago)

I hope it’s something more interesting than a leak.

not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Thursday, 1 June 2006 06:49 (nineteen years ago)

I had no idea there was a Cleveland in the UK.

StanM (StanM), Thursday, 1 June 2006 07:23 (nineteen years ago)


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