what were people nostalgic for in the 80s?

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Hey I'm writing a research paper. Can someone tell me what people were nostalgic for in the 80s? Anyone who can has solid academic training in either visual culture, visual soc, or Cindy Sherman would be in particularly helpful.

― Stephen C (ihope), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

somebody never watched back to the future

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

You're looking for people with a solid training in Cindy Sherman?

Your question is ridiculously broad. People of different ages were nostalgic for different things. I think it's fair to say that the 70s were derided as the decade that style forgot (what comes immediately before is always derided), and that the ghost of the sixties still loomed large. Swinging London, full employment etc. looked pretty good in the Thatcher era. Look at Smiths album covers.

― fred shed, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

Well I'm writing on her film slides series, and I'm trying to say how her uses of 50s movies as a source for them ties into the 50s nostalgia of the era.

― Stephen C (ihope), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

THe 50s. Sha Na Na was still on TV. The Stray Cats. Happy Days. etc

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

u know who cindy sherman is, but had to ask this question?

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

The 60s - same as always

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

Were people nostalgic for the fifties in the eighties? I'm not so sure. I remember living in a flat in London in the mid-eighties furnished from stuff we found in the street. One day we found a fifties kidney-shaped table someone had thrown out and brought it up. It was the subject of much mocking and eventually we threw it out as well. Of course, a decade later we probably could have sold an original fifties kidney-shaped table for a few hundred pounds. On the other hand, I remember a big retrospective of fifties fashion photographer John French at the V&A at around the same time which got a lot of publicity.

Fifties nostalgia happened more in the seventies. By the 80s, the nostalgia focus was more on 60s pop culture. Pop groups were trying to sound like Motown, indie groups were trying to sound like the Velvet Underground.

― jz, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

Do you mean "1980s" as 1980-1989 or "1980s" as 1978-1984? Seems like most people mean the latter when referring to "the decade."

― detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

I was born in 83 so its no big shock. Moreover, I kind of need something i can cite and refer to. Basically I'm writing a paper about Sherman's film still series and its relation to the visual culture of america.

― Stephen C (ihope), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think Sherman was tapping into a particular nostalgia for the 50s that was prevalent at the time. She was tapping into a postmodern aesthetic that was prevalent at the time.

― jz, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

well the question is why use 50s films instead of a more contemporary source? and im arguing that her use of 50s film was more contemporary than people realized.

― Stephen C (ihope), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

80s nostalgia:

60s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 70s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 50s

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

We're talking about America, though.

When exactly did she do the series?

― detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

btw. happy days is so otm. Also ilx paper research is really really awesome. Anyone an expert on visual culture/ visual soc out there? Specifically barthes and mirzoeff would be helpful.

― Stephen C (ihope), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

"Happy Days" was made in the 70s

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Hey I'm writing a research paper.

No you're not, you're letting us do the work.

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

... well, 1974 to 1984 to be precise! (xpost)

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

well the question is why use 50s films instead of a more contemporary source? and im arguing that her use of 50s film was more contemporary than people realized.

If you're arguing that on the strength that there was a particular fifties nostalgia phenomenon in the eighties, then I guess you're wrong. You'd be more right to latch on to the postmodern/kitsch element which ties her work up with a lot of other artists from the era.

happy days is so otm

No it's not. Happy Days started in the seventies.

― jz, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

happy days 74-84. film slides 77-80s. OTM.

No you're not, you're letting us do the work.
I agree, and thank you!

― Stephen C (ihope), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

i always think 'blue velvet' = 50s. but when people say '60s', they usually mean 1965-72, don't they.

i think the whole levis thing, zoot suits, style culture, jazz revival ('absolute beginners') etc says "50s".

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

Culturally there was a lot of nostalgia for the period 55-65, Rock and Roll, Motown, Atlantic, James Dean, Phil Silvers, Marilyn Monroe etc Anything before then was too 'square'and after too 'hippy'.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

Stand By Me, howev...(which I think was maybe set in very early 60s)

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone who can has solid academic training in either visual culture, visual soc, or Cindy Sherman would be in particularly helpful.

ROFL. I bet they would. Will you mention us in your bibliography at the end of the paper?

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

(ie, when the 60s were the 50s)

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

right im writing on the kitsch stuff too. well the postmodern angle is reappropriating mass culture and reinterperating it to create something different. Thats nothing new and many other people were doing this too. but why use 50s and not 80s? Im not arguing entirely nostalgia, but im gonna disect individual works and point out how the image has a lot more to do with the visual culture of the era than previous interpreted.

― Stephen C (ihope), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

But 50s nostalgia is sooooooooooo 1970s!

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

In the early 80s, cable tv hadn't really taken off, so "the local channel" would show old movies and sitcom re-runs. Lots of 50s presence there. 70s rock dinosaurs litke David Bowie and Robert PLant were doing tributes to 50s style. I remember fake 1950s-style diners opening up in the 80s, right before "Back to the Future" and "Stand By Me" kinda nailed the coffin on it all.

― detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

which would be different than the more 70s style of 50s nostalgia in "Happy Days" and "Grease" and maybe even "Rocky Horror Picture Show."

― detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

70s was all about 30s nostalgia.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

We all lived in different 80s I guess. The 80s I lived in took its pop cultural reference points from the mid-sixties rather than the fifties. Although maybe there was a James Dean thing in the mix as well.

― jz, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

late 70s early 80s is fine. Ok I have enough nostalgia stuff. Now I'm on to needing more examples of cindy sherman talking about how the visual culture (re: tv, movies etc etc) influenced her. Also detailed analysis of the film slides would be good. Ha is there anyway to rename this thread to "Cindy Sherman and visual culture research paper?"

― Stephen C (ihope), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

1955 - 1966

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

70s was all about 30s nostalgia

Somewhat of an exaggeration. Listen to most glam rock!

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

Hitchcock movies were on tv all the time in the 80s.

― detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

But again, it ws different in the US. They only had American Graffiti, Happy Days and Grease in the 70s after all!

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

Don't forget all those horrid nostalgic Levi's commercials (he said to no-one in particular).

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

the first half of the 80s was definately the 50s. Not to mention that most people my age saw Happy Days as a re-run more then a first run. By the end of the 80s, 60s revival was kicking in. I'd say while bands may have been rocking the 60s influence in the 80s, the 50s diner thing was still pervasive in the suburbs. You can say REM circa 82 were doing the Byrds or whatever, but from my memory, it wasn't untill the later 80s that 60s revival became a mainstreem thing, like kids dressing up as hippies instead of greasers.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

I always think of the 80s as representing the Baby Boomers' coming of age, ergo lots of nostalgia for their 1960s youth: cf. The Big Chill, Family Ties, and "Kokomo" -- not to mention still being preoccupied with Vietnam (Platoon, Born on the Fourth of July, the TV series China Beach).

But the 1970s nostalgia for the 50s probably ends between 1982-84, with the finales of M*A*S*H and Happy Days and the cinematic release of Diner.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

70s was all about 30s nostalgia
Somewhat of an exaggeration. Listen to most glam rock!

-- We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (dadaismu...), December 13th, 2005.

that's what i meant! the whole 'goodbye to berlin' thing.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

Whereas in the UK we had Teddy Boys, T-Rex, Mud, Showaddywaddy, quiffs (Roxy+Bowie), "John, I'm Only Dancing", those David Essex movies, Wizzard, Gary Glitter.... in the 80s we did have Shakin' Stevens but even he started in the 70s

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

ha. focus people. cindy sherman.

― Stephen C (ihope), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, we're doing you a favor. We'll talk about whatever we like.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

movies-wise, 80s looks back to 50s a lot, i think. maybe *early* 60s.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

Richard Corliss on Mississippi Burning: "What Parker hopes to show moviegoers of 1989 is a fable about 1964 -- perhaps the very last historical moment when most American whites could see Southern blacks purely as righteous rebels for a just cause."

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

that's what i meant! the whole 'goodbye to berlin' thing

A minor tributary

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, we're doing you a favor. We'll talk about whatever we like.

I know I know, I was mostly kidding. Thanks

― Stephen C (ihope), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Cold War Doomsday blah-blah, 1984 = 1961 whatever.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

John Lennon, Rock 'n Roll

... every old fucker was reliving their past in the 70s. Then in the 80s you had something like Billy Joel's "Uptown Girl", which is early (ie pre-British invasion) 60s

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

Oh oh oh and "We Didn't Start the Fire" is the Baby Boomer perspective on history par excellence.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

Little Shop of Horrors: 1986 musical based on a 1960 movie.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

Dadaismus is correct for the UK:

70s = 50s nostalgia
80s = 60s nostalgia

With many exceptions here and there of course. There was a James Deanish thing happening on the Kings Road around 87-88: quiffs, bomber jackets, and a faux diner I think too somewhere near World's End.

― jz, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

corliss is talking out of his arse. has he not been on ile?

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

70s = 50s nostalgia
80s = 60s nostalgia

I'm trying to claim this is correct for the U.S., as well.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

I think it has more to do with mid-decade breakdown. Late 70s/early 80s America definitely had a mid/late 50's vibe(The Go-Go's, Huey Lewis/Billy Joel doing doo-wop, the run of Happy Days, etc)

the change does begin to happen in the mid-80s, as mentioned above. You have Back to the Future ending one wave, and the Big Chill beginning another.

When did the "Freedom Rock" advert begin airing? 1988?

xpost

― kingfish holiday travesty (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

Huey Lewis & the News was sort of a bizarre 50s-->80s leapfrog of continuity

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

Well, Billy Joel was really doing the Four Seasons wasn't he? Which is early 60s.

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

70s = 50s nostalgia
80s = 60s nostalgia

So is this just a generational effect or does this somehow reflect the prevailing political climate?

― NickB (NickB), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

But all the boundaries between 50s/60s, 70s/80s tend be fairly blurred

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

So is this just a generational effect or does this somehow reflect the prevailing political climate?

Bit of both maybe but there's a strong generational effect. ie you're not going to be nostalgic about the stylistic era you've just emerged from, because that's what you're reacting against. You'll go back to the one just before that. The 20 year rule holds true for contemporary rock's recent fascination for post-punk as well.

― jz, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

Dadaismus is correct for the UK:
70s = 50s nostalgia
80s = 60s nostalgia
With many exceptions here and there of course. There was a James Deanish thing happening on the Kings Road around 87-88: quiffs, bomber jackets, and a faux diner I think too somewhere near World's End.

-- jz (j...) (webmail), December 13th, 2005 4:23 PM.

Broadly true, but there was also a jazz hipster revival too in the 80's which tied in neatly and ironically with the yuppie boom. Sharp suits, Blue note, Billie Holliday. Saxophone as the instrument to fetishise etc

And I haven't even mentioned the 1979 rockabilly/mod revival.

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

xpost: It's not like culture-shifts happen at the turn of decades and last for ten years!!!

― detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

xpost: It's not like culture-shifts happen at the turn of decades and last for ten years!!!

True. "The eighties" really divides up into two periods: 77-84 and 85-89 (or maybe 91)

― jz, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

The weirdest thing is that a big thing that some say helped kick off 50s nostalgia(led to Happy Days, etc) was American Graffiti, a flick released in 1973, was set in 1962...

― kingfish holiday travesty (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

62 was still the 50s. 1950s = 1945-1964

― detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

I know, i'm saying that to echo the comment upthread that shit gets hazy after a while.

― kingfish holiday travesty (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

everybody forgets the Korean War

― detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'll amend my definition of the 1950s to be the end of the Korean War to the beginning of the Vietnam War. (You can see how US/UK differences begin)

― detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

cue SNL skit w/ someone playing Brian Setzer appearing on "I Remember the 80s" or whatever it was called...

I remember the 80s when I remembered the 50s...I don't even know what decade it is! or something like that.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

The 50s in Britain were actually the 40s up until about 1956.

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

everybody forgets the Korean War

agreed. They don't even make video games about it. That's a pretty minor distinction, i guess, but I would hold that its a crucial one, in terms of reminding folks of a particular conflict.

― kingfish holiday travesty (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

UK 40s = 1939-1955
UK 50s = 1956-1960
UK 60s = 1961-1969

... not much to the 50s in the UK at all

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

The 60s didn't end until oil crisis and glam.

40s = 1939-1954
50s = 1955-1962
60s = 1963-1971
70s = 1972-1977
80s = 1978-1988

Or something like that.

― jz, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

What marked the end of the 40s in the UK?

― GET EQUIPPED WITH BUBBLE LEAD (ex machina), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

i'll tell you when it happens.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

Elvis?

― jz, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

didn't UK war/post-war rationing go on until 1956 or something?

― kingfish holiday travesty (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

Food rationing finished in 1955. Suez. "Look Back In Anger". Rock 'n' Roll/ Skiffle

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

The cultural Sixties didn't start in the US 'til the UK brought it over, 1964

― detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

pop art (we invented it): 1956.

― Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

Also MacMillan/Butler instead of Churchill/Eden (xpost)

― We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

jz otm. it's kind of like fletcher munsen curves for cultural memory.

― AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Excuse me? Fletcher-Munson Curves? I need to know about this...

― Kate Classic (kate), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

The sixties, from Rumble Fish to De La Soul to the paisley worn on the cover of that LP by The Church.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

Then there's the thing I call 'La Double-Nostalgie', which is nostalgia for something like 'Grease', which is the 1950s through the 1970s, or the Stray Cats, which is the early 1960s filtered through the early 1980s.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

The 1950-1970s thing has that great "took LSD inbetween" filter.

― detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

there actually were no 80s! i can't believe no one has pointed this out yet.

the 70s lasted until 1986, when US cars were required to mount a third brakelight in the center-rear of the car.

in 1986, time and space were shattered by the mere possibility of the red sox winning the world series, but the mets sewed time/space back up again and when everybody looked up, 21 jump street was on TV and the 90s had already begun.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 23:44 (nineteen years ago)

there was a 3D revival around 83/84. there were sunday night 3D movies and the glasses were found in the sunday newspapers. and there was Jaws 3 in 3D.

― kephm (kephm), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

wasn't it more the decade of insufferable fads: jogging,epcot center,friendship pins,leg warmers, who framed roger rabbit, who shot jfk?,hyper-color shirts,care bears,jellys,rubik's cube,boom boxes,wwf wrestling,neon,mtv,break dancing,cabbage patch dolls-the decade that never looked back, wheres the beef?

― kephm (kephm), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 00:06 (nineteen years ago)

It's mostly known as the decade that used typewriters and white-out. Our OTHER little white friend.

― aimurchie (aimurchie), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 08:12 (nineteen years ago)

I have a fantastically ugly print from the 80s I bought in a charity shop which has a picture of a guy standing next to a pink cadillac smoking a cigarette and wearing a sort of tracksuit with a picture of Bing Crosby printed on it, while a waitress on roller skates offers him a drink. I can't for the life of me remember who took the photo, though I have a feeling he may have directed one of the Emmanuelle films. Anyway, it definitely ties in with the 80s -> 50s nostalgia idea.

― James Ward (jamesmichaelward), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 09:54 (nineteen years ago)

the early 80s was when fashion nostalgia became a mix n match affair. so on one hand there was the 50s stylings of rockabilly in the Stray Cats etc, 60s ska (Specials, Madness et al), the Hard Times/Buffalo look was all about mixing latino wide boy with 50s greaseball, and don't forget the Weimer stylings of New Romanticism and many people just mixed the whole lot up. I remember buying 40s suits from South Ken market, 50s shirts from Flip, and it wouldn't have been incongruous to top it off with a pork pie hat...

― 80sboy, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 11:06 (nineteen years ago)

It's probably very different between Britain and America, anyway, eg Britain's experience of the seventies was probably nothing like America's. Also, a lot of the late-50s/early-60s 'nostalgia' in Britain in the 80s seemed to be based on the American experience of that time, rather than the British one - James Dean, JFK, Sam Cooke, Ben E King. I don't remember an 80s Lonnie Donegan revival, or people harking back to the glory days of Harold Macmillan.

― Teh HoBB (the pirate king), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 11:45 (nineteen years ago)

true enough, except I would say the early 60s nostalgia (in fashion at least - and with Bluebeat/ska, etc) in late 70s, early 80s was very much atuned to a very British Mod sensibility and look. Not so much a revival as a reworking and I think this informed fashion for a while. See latter (and earlier for that matter) period Spandau.

― 80sboy, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

Excuse me? Fletcher-Munson Curves? I need to know about this...

eh? thought you'd know about these kate? they're basically graphs which show how the human ear respond/percieves volume of sound as a function of frequency. For example, at lower volumes the human ear is more sensitive to mids, which is why a lot of steroes have bass boost buttons for use at lower volume levels.

JZ basically messed with the actually dates of decades, changing them from strict chronological 00-09 years to adapt them to the way we perceive them in terms of our history and culture. i thought it was analagous :)

― AaronK (AaronK), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

radio luxembourg

with their dull beatles nostalgia hour

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

Doesn't The Wonder Years settle the debate?

― Sundar (sundar), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't forgotten the Korean war.

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

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