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a visiting american colleague just asked me what bars to go to 'to experience the real london'. he's not really the fetishising red bus and phonebox sort and i've resisted the temptation to send him to all bar one in leicester square. where should he go?

barbarian bars (jaybob3005), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

The Foundry is a cool BAR in the Hoxton/Shoreditch area.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

The Foundry is A PUB. Face it.

Kate Classic (kate), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

Tomato tomato.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

as i said on another thread, the foundry, whilst being a pleasingly eccentric PUB, is far too COLD

barbarian cities (jaybob3005), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

by Bars he probably meant any kind of drinking establishment because 'pub' sounds really gay in an american accent!

i dunno what's a good london pub though - erm... London Pub by russell square?

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

China White.

FiFi (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

OnAnon

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

Tiger Tiger!

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

Does he like high-class prostitutes?

FiFi (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

fucking old street.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

London :(

FiFi (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

The Met Pub

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

10 Downing Street!!

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

Waxy O'Somethings

FiFi (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

Smersh

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

Stingray

Playschool

FiFi (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah and i hear there are some high quality bars inside PENTONVILLE PRISON!

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

Marshmallow Triptych

FiFi (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

The Case Is Altered, in Bushey.

FiFi (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

The Moon Under Water in Colindale.

FiFi (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

http://img01.beerintheevening.com/88/88b988a8f80febfaebb16049575ca9e9.jpg

FiFi (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

The Man On The Moon on chalk farm road

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

xxxpost he's already done tiger tiger and pronouned it 'kinda lame'.

i'm not sure whether he would like high class prostitutes.

he is a fan of nyc's trendy meatpacking district, apparently, so i imagine he will like old st...

barbarian cities (jaybob3005), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

What to make of this sprawling venue combining chic London street style with eccentric country manor glamour? A four-floor member’s club, bar and restaurant set in a beautiful old West End building, the interiors by fashion designer Russell Sage say everything about its stylish weirdness: the café and restaurant on the ground floor resembles a hardware store with shelves packed with light bulbs, Marmite and Coleman’s mustard and clothing, while an upper floor trophy room is packed with stag horns, stuffed animals and oil paintings. Food is high-end European cuisine from a former chef at Marco Pierre White’s private club Drone, and the upper-floor bar menu created by Jasper Tay, formerly of Milk & Honey, specialises in classic cocktails with twists, including tributes to the world’s leading modern-day mixologists. Try the Fitzgerald, a Tom Collins with Bitters; and the Old Cuban - Mojito with champagne. The first and second floors are for members, there’s a ballroom-like dance floor, and romantics among you will enjoy the warm glow from the lamps and candles in the private dining space. Marvellous!

FiFi (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

Oooh, The Bunch Of Grapes on Knightsbridge!

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

The Man On The Moon on chalk farm road is the worst. pub. ever.

he's not so much of a dick that i'll send him to a wetherspoons.

barbarian cities (jaybob3005), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

he is a fan of nyc's trendy meatpacking district, apparently, so i imagine he will like old st...

omg yes! it'll be his home from home.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

Hush is a 70’s styled lounge bar (satin/velour/greens/browns) with an eye for the ladies. That lunch. Situated but a credit-card’s throw from Versace, take the weight off your Manolo’s and have a fortifying Fashionista inspired cocktail from a 40 strong list. Relax as you muster your strength for an afternoon’s commando raid on Knightsbridge or just simply look like you are. Bags are the new jewellery, you know…

FiFi (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

if you want to 'experience real london', don't go to east london, it's full of people trying to do same. go to fucking harlesdon or something.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

if he catches the wetherspoons on a curry club night i think he'd really love it

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

I am drawing a map of Hendon right now.

FiFi (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

if you want to 'experience real london', don't go to east london, it's full of people trying to do same. go to fucking harlesdon or something.

but surely 'the real london' IS loads of tourists, trying to 'discover it'. It's a self perpetuating experience.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

aha. 43 south molton. mebbe he can go there. he's rich and nominally creative.

barbarian cities (jaybob3005), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

This is my local London BAR:
http://www.yelp.com/biz/Qlki4Lgi-kTPX4LhPtT1qw

FiFi (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

I suppose 'real London' = pubs though, it's true. Pubs popular with many London ILE people include The Swimmer (at The Graften Arms) in Holloway, The Lord Clyde in Borough, The Lord John Russell in Bloomsbury, The Champion in Fitzrovia, The Blue Posts (Newman Street) in Fitzrovia, The Old Red Lion Theatre pub in Angel, The Lamb in Holborn and The Glasshouse Stores in Soho.

Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

dude 'London ILE' != 'real London'

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

And the Foundry, which is also a pub.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

although i do recommend the Lord John Russell if he wants to experience real London barmaids

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

"if you want to 'experience real london', don't go to east london,"

Not quite true: east London is more than just hoxton and shoreditch after all. There's some fantastically "real" boozers in Tower Hamlets, Stratford, West Ham et al, though they might not take too kindly to a trend-spotting yank in their midst.

And then there's Yates's in Lewisham...

Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

"if you want to 'experience real london', don't go to east london,"
Not quite true: east London is more than just hoxton and shoreditch after all. There's some fantastically "real" boozers in Tower Hamlets, Stratford, West Ham et al, though they might not take too kindly to a trend-spotting yank in their midst.

And then there's Yates's in Lewisham...

-- Hello Sunshine (fiver_the_bunn...)

tower hamlets is full of city boys!

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

stratford is full of grime bloggers!

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

Not quite true: east London is more than just hoxton and shoreditch after all. There's some fantastically "real" boozers in Tower Hamlets, Stratford, West Ham et al, though they might not take too kindly to a trend-spotting yank in their midst.

If only The Flying Scud was still open.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

shoreditch isn't even east london! it's like just outside the congestion charge zone.. that's like calling Euston 'north london'!!

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

ground cava bar in ravey st (next door to smersh) is excellent (though tiny). if your friend hangs out in the current meatpacking district (and i'm not talking about hogs & heifers), then i'm assuming money isn't a huge issue so how about loungelover?

lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

Send him down the Nailgun Arms.

Kate Classic (kate), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

'but surely 'the real london' IS loads of tourists, trying to 'discover it'. It's a self perpetuating experience. '

otm.

it's meaningless saying somewhere's more real because it's boring. if i wanted boring i'd send him to watford or milton keynes.

anyway, he's a bit of a try-hard so he'll like somewhere he can see lots of other try-hards trying hard.

mebbe this thread should have been titled 'nominate your favourite london pubs and bars'. go on. do it. both pubs and bars allowed and no quibbling over nomenclature please.

barbarian cities (jaybob3005), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

loungelover good idea.

barbarian cities (jaybob3005), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

Come on! Try telling my mum that Watford's boring.

FiFi (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

i think the trouble is that most of our favourite bars/pubs are probably just kind of nice places to spend a lot of time in, rather than 'exciting places' that have like loads of cool things that you want to go to once (and perhaps never again but doesn't matter)

especially pubs because most of the time the company is the best thing about a pub.

ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

Oh yes, sorry, missed that. Thinking about it, I'm pretty sure the Twelve Pins is the only Seven Sisters Rd pub I've ever been in (and there only once).

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 18 December 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

What london pubs and bars have that summer 08 feeling?

I think this year i'm ready for drinking outside, lets make this a sitting outside and drinking beer time, I think you deserve it, deep down I think you do too

Hello Everyone!, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

pub on the park (london fields) kind of wipes the floor with the competition afaic

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:33 (eighteen years ago)

what's the competition? some guy on a bike selling red stripe cans?

blueski, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:36 (eighteen years ago)

i have not sat in a pub garden with a pint so far this year :(

blueski, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:37 (eighteen years ago)

The Pub on the Park is one of those pubs, like the Trafalgar Tavern, that is too bludy well known for its own good and becomes annoyingly busy whenever the sun comes out.

I would like to know of a few more decent beer gardens in the more central bit of North London. You know, unassuming local, little garden out the back, proper pub tables. Until then, I'm still at the lounging in park/spilling out onto Lamb's Conduit Street stage of summer drinking. Not that I'm complaining.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:38 (eighteen years ago)

i've never been IN the Pub On The Park

blueski, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

Any pub along the riverside in Richmond is awful nice when the weather's like this...

(x-post... it ain't North at all)

Savannah Smiles, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

the shakespeare's head, behind sadler's wells!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

i can't get there til 6:30 though, soz

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

best beer garden in Zone 1, now that is a challenge

blueski, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

South London: Rose and Crown near Southwark tube has the largest beer garden round those parts. Founders Arms by Tate Modern is not great but it's on the river. The George at London Bridge is not bad - good ales, large outdoor space although no grass in sight. The Anchor at London Bridge have decided that now is the ideal time to renovate, won't be open till June some time.

ledge, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

I've never been to the beer garden at the Shakey Head, I bet it's ace though, everything else about that pub is.

Also Exmouth Market! Almost all the pubs and bars have tables outside and in this weather they're all about as good as one another. Cafe Kick might win overall though.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:43 (eighteen years ago)

is that the one with "baby foot"?

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

Exmouth Market is good. Shepherd Market, off Piccadilly, is under-frequented. Not in a "not busy" sense, just that no-one I know goes there very often.

ledge, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:50 (eighteen years ago)

Shepherd Market is lovely, if a bit too full of chartered surveyors on a busy day, very French feel.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:55 (eighteen years ago)

clerkenwell green (although it's hardly a 'green') is a decent size outdoor drinking spot.

but the most central decent actual pub garden i can think of is the edinboro castle in camden

braveclub, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 14:59 (eighteen years ago)

The Edinboro Castle is good!

Hello Everyone!, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 15:06 (eighteen years ago)

There is a good summer pub crawl to be done going North from Southampton Row I think, all those dark little pubs that spill out onto nice green Bloomsbury squares.

Charlotte Street and the area around it = perfect for summer drinking.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 15:09 (eighteen years ago)

Has the Canonbury Tavern reopened yet?

James Mitchell, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 15:13 (eighteen years ago)

i think i'd rather drink around Museum St. - slightly quieter and more outside tables

blueski, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

no garden exactly, more like an alley, but the lord john russell is a favorite central summer spot

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

Any pub along the riverside in Richmond is awful nice when the weather's like this...

(x-post... it ain't North at all)

it's worth walking for 5 minutes from Richmond along the river (in the Kingston direction) to this German place that does platters of sausages and MASSIVE beers.

tpp, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 15:58 (eighteen years ago)

xpost Yeah, but I can't remember, is there still construction blocking the sidewalk there? (LJR)

G00blar, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 15:59 (eighteen years ago)

near the hammersmith bridge are some godlike outdoor pub spots

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:02 (eighteen years ago)

so is anyone doing this drinking thing?

Ed, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

Not me, not now, not tonight.

G00blar, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 17:16 (eighteen years ago)

i have to w3rk :/

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 17:17 (eighteen years ago)

four years pass...

anyone got a suggestion for a place in east london?

homosexual II, Saturday, 15 September 2012 10:56 (thirteen years ago)

what are you looking for? i messaged ally btw on fb, i've been off work sick the last few days but hoping to pull myself together today.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Saturday, 15 September 2012 11:02 (thirteen years ago)

mason & taylor at the top of brick lane? while it still exists and all.

c sharp major, Saturday, 15 September 2012 11:06 (thirteen years ago)

if cocktails, 'off broadway' on broadway market is meant to be good.

c sharp major, Saturday, 15 September 2012 11:09 (thirteen years ago)

another good place for cocktails is 'happiness forgets' on hoxton sq

tpp, Saturday, 15 September 2012 12:16 (thirteen years ago)

i second off broadway

lex pretend, Saturday, 15 September 2012 12:28 (thirteen years ago)

the mexican food at off broadway is also pretty good

tpp, Saturday, 15 September 2012 12:55 (thirteen years ago)

we went to mason & taylor
and then pride of spitalfields

was a great time!!

homosexual II, Sunday, 16 September 2012 11:54 (thirteen years ago)

seven years pass...

nice backstory thread on old-school ilx institution:

It's Friday. I should be boozing but no. Lockdown.

So have a history thread about where I should be.

Let's talk about Bradley's Spanish Bar, London's classiest and oldest (maybe) dive bar, and about how a bunch of old Greek wrestlers helped turn a tiny corner of Soho Spanish. pic.twitter.com/0vEhMHNpyf

— John Bull (@garius) April 17, 2020

mark s, Saturday, 18 April 2020 14:58 (six years ago)

hey I’ve been there

El Tomboto, Saturday, 18 April 2020 15:09 (six years ago)

i've been informed by an old-skool ilxor that this is "A spanish bar" but not "THE spanish bar"

(both in hanway street, just doors away from one another)

mark s, Saturday, 18 April 2020 15:26 (six years ago)

older-skool even than me i mean

mark s, Saturday, 18 April 2020 15:26 (six years ago)

oh maybe I’ve never been then

El Tomboto, Saturday, 18 April 2020 16:29 (six years ago)

the relevant whatsapp is now abuzz with distinctions, memories and sightings*, plus the sage claim "different people have different spanish bars, it's a state of mind"

*sightings of the legendary "hairy man", who properly dwells in the true spanish bar (but has been seen in all the others)

mark s, Saturday, 18 April 2020 16:32 (six years ago)

The ILX Spanish Bar is the less famous of the two and may no longer exist.

Matt DC, Saturday, 18 April 2020 19:32 (six years ago)

two years pass...

fucking hell

We are opening the biggest bar in the UK tomorrow with a capacity of 1775!

Here is my little behind the scenes tour of the amazing @BrewdogWaterloo pic.twitter.com/wyQg8lbRdP

— James Watt (@BrewDogJames) August 17, 2022

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 19 August 2022 07:31 (three years ago)

A podcast studio, with glass walls, in a noisy pub!
A slide which a drunk person will be sick on within the week!
Tables with benches indoors like a canteen in a factory!

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 19 August 2022 07:35 (three years ago)

as an ex waterloo resident I wanted to fond out where it is, the brewdog.com/waterloo link on their twitter feed from all of 12 days ago 404s.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Friday, 19 August 2022 07:44 (three years ago)

Unfortunately I have found it - https://www.brewdog.com/uk/bars/uk/brewdog-waterloo

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 20 August 2022 08:39 (three years ago)

three years pass...

Off to the Garden Museum tomorrow. Anywhere good to walk to (for wine)?

djh, Saturday, 18 April 2026 19:31 (one month ago)

If you're walking back towards waterloo maybe check out lower marsh, it had some good bars when I was there, it's only got trendier since.

ledge, Sunday, 19 April 2026 09:38 (one month ago)

A shout out for my current favourite pub in London: the Charles I, on a back street a few minutes walk from Kings Cross station. Proper local, with an official “no wankers” policy.

https://kingcharles1st.co.uk/

mike t-diva, Sunday, 19 April 2026 14:58 (one month ago)


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