should i send home students who come in wearing snowman t-shirts:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-11-05-snowman-tshirt_x.htm
frankly, it creeps me the fuck out.
i also take issue w/ huge tupac and al capone airbrush t-shirts although i'd never dream of trying to enforce that on my students - when i was a 10th-11th grader i was pretty obsessed w/ al capone (along w/ the gunfight at the OK corrall, elric of melnibone, han solo, ninjas, harrison ford in blade runner, etc etc) so i guess it's part and parcel of the same sort of growing-up process
but the snowman thing seems to cross some sort of line - i'd certainly never let in anybody who had pot leaves on their t-shirt
(then again there are those anthrax Persistence Of Time t-shirts kids have been wearing since i was a teenager... gah)
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:42 (nineteen years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:48 (nineteen years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:49 (nineteen years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:49 (nineteen years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:50 (nineteen years ago)
oh god, now i AM back in high school.
also, Megadeth shirts.
― kingfish holiday travesty (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:50 (nineteen years ago)
"The image popularized by drug-dealer-turned-rapper Young Jeezy symbolizes those who sell a white substance known on the street as snow: cocaine."
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:50 (nineteen years ago)
id send home pot leaf kids too.
― sunny successor (katharine), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:50 (nineteen years ago)
vahid teaches in california, dude.
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:51 (nineteen years ago)
I first saw the snowman posters over the summer, and it seriously took me a while to put it together. Like, "Why are Young Jeezy's posters just a constipated snowman?"
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:52 (nineteen years ago)
heh. and this is why police investigators carry around switchblades. how else do you get to look up at your partner and say, "it's real," with such a grim expression?
ooohhh yeah. right then.
― kingfish holiday travesty (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:52 (nineteen years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:52 (nineteen years ago)
― Dan (Come On Now) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:52 (nineteen years ago)
maybe, maybe not.
we have some pretty arbitrary rules on campus about what you can/can't wear. ie, you can only wear ONE piece of blue or red clothing at a time. so if you are wearing a blue t-shirt you can't wear a blue hat with it, or blue jeans.
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:53 (nineteen years ago)
(xp to dan)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:54 (nineteen years ago)
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:54 (nineteen years ago)
i'm still thinking that it had to be one of the metallica album covers.
― kingfish holiday travesty (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:54 (nineteen years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:54 (nineteen years ago)
i blame tookie. rip.
seriously tho, if you send kids with pot leaf t's home, you should definitely do the same for this. i doubt that if your principal knew what the snowman thing was, s/he'd be fine with the kids wearing the shirts.
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:55 (nineteen years ago)
― kingfish holiday travesty (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:56 (nineteen years ago)
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:56 (nineteen years ago)
― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:56 (nineteen years ago)
― Dan (Think Of The Children! Then Spit On Them) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:56 (nineteen years ago)
the only thing bigger than my students desire to be dangerous = their willingness to believe that i'm a dumbass
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:57 (nineteen years ago)
xpost
I was too young for W.A.S.P. tshirts to be around.
― kingfish holiday travesty (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:57 (nineteen years ago)
― kingfish holiday travesty (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:59 (nineteen years ago)
I guess, there needs to be a school wide policy re: the snowmen, or a regional thing.
― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:59 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.driko.org/blogicons/calvin_snowman.gif
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:03 (nineteen years ago)
― latebloomer: Deutsch Bag (latebloomer), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:03 (nineteen years ago)
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:05 (nineteen years ago)
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:07 (nineteen years ago)
haha you laugh, but a lot of the chaos in the school system right now is due to the fact that administrators don't have the power to ban kids from schools. no child will be left behind! so now there is an entire academic tracks in this district for kids that 10 years ago would have been put in a continuation school and allowed to attend 2-3 hours / day, work a job, and work towards a GED.
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:08 (nineteen years ago)
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:09 (nineteen years ago)
― u saved me (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:12 (nineteen years ago)
Or do what Nabisco said.
(who the hell is buying yellow coke?)
― Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:13 (nineteen years ago)
last week a 9th grader told me "you banging blue or we banging you". i ignored him and kept passing out worksheets. i was like "you are FOUR FEET TALL AND HAVE A PUBESTACHE".
should high school be optional?
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:14 (nineteen years ago)
― u saved me (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:15 (nineteen years ago)
I totally dig the snowman shirts though I am iffy on Young Jeezy in general.
― adam (adam), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:16 (nineteen years ago)
I mean, really - outside of "I am creeped out by a kid with a cocaine snowman on his shirt" — which is the adult's problem, not the kid's — what, exactly, is the harm? Do people actually believe that kids who otherwise would not have done coke will see the abundance of t-shirts and be more likely to experiment with coke?
Really?
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:16 (nineteen years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:17 (nineteen years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:17 (nineteen years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:18 (nineteen years ago)
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:19 (nineteen years ago)
My kids used to get chalk dust from the trays and cut "lines" then snort them.
kids are dumbasses.
― Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:20 (nineteen years ago)
i offered him applause and a referral, which i tore up after class in exchange for not saying "dick" again in my earshot.
xxxxpost
well, it's the kid's problem if i am the teacher and can't concentrate on giving a good lesson.
frankly, i'm not really sure what the harm is ... of course i'm much less worried w/ coke use (the kids have enough crackheads and welfare cases in their neighborhood to really want to fuck with that) and more worried w/ what kids see as their values and role models.
but again, maybe i'm just overreacting because i have a sheltered past.
― vahid (vahid), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:22 (nineteen years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:22 (nineteen years ago)
From the adult perspective those distinctions don't really fly, which is fair enough and one reason you might not allow the shirts in school -- but I'm saying those distinctions are what could, in some cases, make the adult side seem hysterical and point-missing ("you're endorsing cocaine!") to the dumbass kid side ("but it's just a cool shirt!").
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago)
― detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:01 (nineteen years ago)
The fuzzy part stemming from that would be that some of the kids wearing these shirts are presumably close enough in contact with drug-dealing as a reality that you'd think that wouldn't be as much of an option.
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago)
stop, now. save your own sanity. (j/k, sort of, don't know if your situation is chaotic as mine was.)
btw, I got in trouble in fifth grade for wearing a t-shirt from Madonna's Virgin tour. My principal asked if I knew what "virgin" meant. I said, yes, it meant doing something for the first time. Adjecitves vs. verbs people! Anyway I was told not to wear it anymore but I did on the last day of school. hah-ha!
― Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:04 (nineteen years ago)
First I'm going to stack my flow Then I'm going to stack some more Close shop then I do my count Hide the rest of the yams at my auntie house Get fresh and jump in one of them cars Hit the club and get one of them broads It's a wrap we on the way to the house By 3:45 I'll be kicking her out
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:06 (nineteen years ago)
― nein Socken (nein Socken), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:07 (nineteen years ago)
Which makes it really difficult, from the outside, to tell the difference between the kids who'd go for this design in that kind of "it's a cool shirt" way and the ones for whom it'd really signify -- it's a difference that would probably operate on a kid-by-kid level, really.
(In any case, not allowing them in school seems like a pretty standard continuation on the long-established no-drug-references-in-school deal.)
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:14 (nineteen years ago)
I'm still convinced of the efficacy of the seventies model: got a kid wearing a shirt you feel uncomfortable about? raise the question with him/her. He (lemme just go with "he" so as not to be obnoxious)(er) will be really uncomfortable, and so will you, but it's in such exchanges that you can get the actual ideas you have about how it's uncool to glamorize stuff that lays waste to neighborhoods & families & lives across.
Simples rules about wearing the shirts, meanwhile, won't communicate that idea at all; it just reinforces the "adults don't know what's cool" meme.
xpost and I still think "no drug references in school" is moronic
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago)
No Happy Ending For Jenna BushJenna Bush’s infamous ID-gate videotape is raising more questions than the Zapruder film. According to a source who has seen the footage—which features a self-described downtown coke dealer relating his late-night run-in with the First Daughter, and brandishing her wallet (stuffed with over $1,000 in cash) and college ID as souvenirs—the man insinuates that the two shared more than just drinks.
A well-informed source, who has a DVD copy of the interview shot by tbirdshow.com’s Travis Poston, says that at one point the dealer claims that the young, blonde Jenna Bush with the Texas accent he hung out with that night (and who happened to leave behind Jenna Bush’s belongings) had been “helping [him] clean up” the bar after a long night of partying.
(A publicist for First Lady Laura Bush has unequivocally denied that her daughter has ever been to the Chinatown bar, Happy Ending, even though we hear the UT-Austin ID card displayed in the film clearly shows the hard-partying political liability’s name, picture and student ID number.)
According to the New York Post’s Page Six, the Secret Service are reportedly taking the tape seriously enough to investigate, and we hear they’re not the only ones. When Fresh Intelligence emailed tbirdshow.com about securing selected clips to host on this site, we received the following curt response: “There are about ten top papers fighting for that footage. Get in line.”
Needless to say, “if a coke dealer has your ID it doesn’t look so good,” quipped the source.
Apparently, the affable salesman doesn’t limit his company to presidential offspring. “He brags on camera that he’s down with all the members of Interpol,” our source says. “And everybody in the club that walks by in the video says ‘hi’ to him.”
Reps for Bush and Interpol could not be reached by press time.
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:35 (nineteen years ago)
― gear (gear), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:41 (nineteen years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:43 (nineteen years ago)
― u saved me (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago)
adults dumb: i'm gonna drink way too much the night before work and have to call out the next day and also "forget" to pay my electricity bill before they send the shut off notice!
― u saved me (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:47 (nineteen years ago)
And speaking as someone who was in a public high school a LOT more frequently than most of you were, kids would wear shirts with drug references all the time. Sometimes they would be aked to turn it inside out (Cannibal Corpse shirts, etc.) but things like "State Route 420" and a Bob Marley shirt that said "The more people smoke herb, the more babylon fall" would go over without a problem.
Most kids in high school have contact with drug culture--they have probably smoked weed, they have probably known people who used cocane (if they haven't used it themselves), and if they're in a "tuff" urban area, they may know people who carry handguns. These are the risks of being alive and a teenager now.
Drugs aren't a big deal, and I think that's the way kids feel about a possible drug reference. There are jokes about cocaine on major primetime television shows, and crime dramas about heroin--surely high school students shouldn't be allowed to watch/enjoy them. Clearly.
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 20:50 (nineteen years ago)
this made me laff really hard
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:06 (nineteen years ago)
― u saved me (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago)
And then of course the guy wearing it was not someone you'd think would be much snitch-concerned, but rather this short fancy-hair guy with these stylish post-Urban-Outfitters duds and hip-ass sneakers and the kind of greenish pretty eyes that, on a black person, kind of throw you into the role of ladies' man from the get-go.
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:12 (nineteen years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:46 (nineteen years ago)
― u saved me (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:48 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.citypaper.com/sb/87365/topten_news.jpg
(from the delightful stop snitchin' dvd)
― u saved me (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:49 (nineteen years ago)
― Dan (Boggling) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:54 (nineteen years ago)
― Klaus Darko (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:56 (nineteen years ago)
Skinny Suge presents Stop Fucking Snitching Vol. 1
― u saved me (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 20:59 (nineteen years ago)
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 21:02 (nineteen years ago)
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 22:14 (nineteen years ago)
― u saved me (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 22:15 (nineteen years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 22:23 (nineteen years ago)
not to mention actually helping to perpetuate the stop snitching thing by, y'know, paying for it.
― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 22:30 (nineteen years ago)
― u saved me (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 22:33 (nineteen years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 22:41 (nineteen years ago)
Slate on snitching today interprets the whole thing as actually being about law-enforcement snitch-moling (and contends that law-enforcement snitch-moling is actually a really terrible policy) -- which might be fair, except that I think that the no-snitch thing as it plays in popular culture is actually kinda different and more general than that, more of a sides-taking thing.
― nabiscothingy, Monday, 19 December 2005 23:18 (nineteen years ago)
― detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Monday, 19 December 2005 23:28 (nineteen years ago)
― nabiscothingy, Monday, 19 December 2005 23:33 (nineteen years ago)
I like this one!
― GET EQUIPPED WITH BUBBLE LEAD (ex machina), Monday, 19 December 2005 23:44 (nineteen years ago)
― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 00:00 (nineteen years ago)
― kingfish holiday travesty (kingfish 2.0), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 00:04 (nineteen years ago)
― deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 00:04 (nineteen years ago)
BALTIMORE - A man featured prominently in a homemade DVD dubbed “Stop Snitching” that warned Baltimore residents not to cooperate with police has been arrested, authorities said.
An informant tipped off authorities that Ronnie Thomas, 30, would be in South Baltimore, where he was arrested Sunday.
― Paul Eater (eater), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)
― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)
― Dan (Karma) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)
― smokemon (eman), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)
it looks like a big huge handwritten "refrigerator magnet" note ... the sort of thing you'd put phone #s or reminders on.
and then written in scribbly handwriting on it:
"note to self: remember to GET REAL PAID...OR DIE TRYING"
i wanted to be like, dude, why don 't you just concentrate on passing my class w/ a C?
― DEEDS NOT WORDS (vahid), Saturday, 29 April 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)
― tremendoid (tremendoid), Saturday, 29 April 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs046.snc6/167679_753681070012_8110956_41222743_7105011_n.jpg
― go straddle a narwhal you chlorinated gene pool (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 19:35 (fourteen years ago)
during the era of the snowman shirt, i strongly coveted a black on black glitter snowman shirt that i had once seen. i would walk down to the fulton street mall to see if i could find one so i could covet it again. i never did and still regret this.
― normal_fantasy-unicorns (contenderizer), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 19:43 (fourteen years ago)
Then he woke up his sister, Poop.
― I Lost A COGHdrop in His Pato (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 19:47 (fourteen years ago)
the thing is, I find the shirt creepy - kids advertising "cocaine! cocaine" has a pretty hideous dystopian ring to it― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, December 13, 2005 2:16 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Tuesday, December 13, 2005 2:16 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
lol @ post/username
― I Lost A COGHdrop in His Pato (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 19:48 (fourteen years ago)
wow I did not realize that it could take more than an entire calendar year to build a snowman out of poop
― big ed girlie (Pillbox), Wednesday, 12 January 2011 20:38 (fourteen years ago)