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kazaa? soulseek? limewire? help me search for non-copywritten files I crave!

― Mike Hanle y (mike), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 01:09 (twenty years ago)

Welcome to the Wonderful World of P2P...about five years after everyone else arrived.

― jay blanchard (jay blanchard), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 01:15 (twenty years ago)

which is the best one - I dont want spyware and I want a large network of availability

― Mike Hanle y (mike), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)

dont use kazaa.

i've had great experience with soulseek for both music and apps (like recent versions of hundreds of dollars music editting software...)

― AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 15 December 2005 02:41 (twenty years ago)

It's hard to see past b1tt0rr3nt for general use, but slsk is better for individual tracks. BT relies on good luck on the part of the user, but slsk's wishlist function is ace.

― scotstvo (scotstvo), Thursday, 15 December 2005 02:47 (twenty years ago)

Will someone please give me an idiot's guide for setting up and using bittorrent to DL television programmes? Much appreciated!

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)

Download bittorrent. Install it. Go to Torrentspy.com. Search thru their directory. Click on torrent you want to download (tiny file, 20 k-ish). Double click downloaded torrent file. Wait.

― Falling down the stairs again (noodle vague), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)

"Download bittorrent" means what exactly?

(I know I'm being dumb but I spent days trying to do this about 18 months ago and NOTHING WORKED to the extent that I didn't actually know what wasn't working or what should be happening)

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)

Go to the "official bittorrent site and download Latest Release 4.2.1, then double click the exe file you've downloaded. As I remember, it's pretty undemonstrative when it installs.

― Falling down the stairs again (noodle vague), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)

Azureus is a better client, and I think it's easier than the straight vanilla one as well.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

Thanks chaps.

― Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:52 (twenty years ago)

if anyone's using a mac, one word: acquisition.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 15 December 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

i still don't get bitorrent. last time i tried acquisition, it sucked ass. (sorry, maybe it was just that i have a big phat arse...)

i love limewire cause you can download lots of programs. it's also great for single tracks. don't use it for albums unless you want incomplete ones. :-) i also love soulseek (for apple).

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 15 December 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

I put off bittorrent for ages. Then last week I got a complete rip of Rome: Total War, and now I love it. It's still pretty crappy for music tho, I think.

― Falling down the stairs again (noodle vague), Thursday, 15 December 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

i don't bother with Azureus. i do wish i fully understood how to create and 'upload' torrents though. i only seed stuff as i'm downloading it and for only a short while after.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Thursday, 15 December 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

Hey, grimly, why acquisition and not the "official" BT client.

I've never had much luck with BT (when I was on a windows machine) especially since soulseek has satisfied most of my needs.

Isn't anyone going to warn Hanle y and and Markelby about toggling the "ID" tag in the program settings so that the location of their computer isn't logged at the central server. It would be a shame to just start getting involved with P2P and then immediate have the government swoop in.

― Mitya (mitya), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

BT can be great for music if you know where to look. O1nk, for example is an excellent resource, but like I said, it leaves slightly more limited for choice than say, slsk or limewire, but guaranteed of a high bitrate, the album to be complete and it's generally much faster too.

― scotstvo (scotstvo), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

Isn't anyone going to warn Hanle y and and Markelby about toggling the "ID" tag in the program settings so that the location of their computer isn't logged at the central server.

in what program?

― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

Huh? They do that? God, I'm so stupid.

Someone's knocking at the door. I'll be right back.

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

01nk is great for getting whole collections of artists of labels, but you have to wait for someone to host the torrent file. For example recently people have uploaded torrents which contained the whole discography of Per10n, K0mpakt, 5p3ctra1 50und, 5ub 5tat1c , Trap3z, Und3rgr0und R3sistanc3, and many more. To do the same on S0u1533k would take you weeks of hunting and waiting for the right people to come online. However, you can find very specific tracks on Soulseek much easier than with any B1tT0rr3nt site.

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

(Plus you have to wait for invites, and seeing as they will kick you off 01nk if the person you have invited is a bad sharer, most people are unwilling to use their invites.)

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

((so don't ask me))

― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

Me either. Schmooze the nerds.

― scotstvo (scotstvo), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

However, you can find very specific tracks on Soulseek much easier than with any B1tT0rr3nt site.

It's possible to selectively download particular tracks from an album torrent (with Azureus at least). I've had pretty amazingly good luck finding individual tracks on 01nk by searching the "description" field for the track I want. More luck than on SLSK even!

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 15 December 2005 22:24 (twenty years ago)

Hey, grimly, why acquisition and not the "official" BT client.

ah: sorry, i've never used acquisition for BT stuff, just bog-standard P2Ping.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 15 December 2005 23:09 (twenty years ago)

recently people have uploaded torrents which contained the whole discography of Per10n, K0mpakt, 5p3ctra1 50und, 5ub 5tat1c , Trap3z, Und3rgr0und R3sistanc3

i...i...wow

― W i l l (common_person), Thursday, 15 December 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)

Isn't anyone going to warn Hanle y and and Markelby about toggling the "ID" tag in the program settings so that the location of their computer isn't logged at the central server.

explain?

For example recently people have uploaded torrents which contained the whole discography of Per10n, K0mpakt, 5p3ctra1 50und, 5ub 5tat1c , Trap3z, Und3rgr0und R3sistanc3, and many more.

ok, this finally makes me really really want in on o1nk. pace the endless threads on ilm, is there actually any way in? do all users get invites - i imagine some of the ilmers who i know are on would invite me if they had invties, but i'm not sure anyone reads those ilm threads anyway...

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 15 December 2005 23:16 (twenty years ago)

slsk is better for music

bt for everything else(i use utorrent)

― kingfish holiday travesty (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 15 December 2005 23:25 (twenty years ago)

toggling the "ID" tag in the program settings so that the location of their computer isn't logged at the central server.

explain?

I think this is a mistaken assumption

― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 15 December 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)

that's what i thought.

― toby (tsg20), Thursday, 15 December 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)

Toby, going into the IRC chat and talking eagerly is a surefire way of getting an 01nk invite. If you're stuck, er, see below. Just promise not to be a dick.

― scotstvo (scotstvo), Friday, 16 December 2005 00:20 (twenty years ago)

Thanks to this thread, I didn't download Azureus and I'm not now happily downloading American situation comedies. However, while not downloading, I haven't noticed that my computer doesn't become extremely slow and my internet browsing doesn't become very slow and unreliable. It just not like 1996! What am I not doing wrong, and is the any way of not adjusting it so it doesn't behave better?

― Markelby (Mark C), Saturday, 17 December 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

Azureus is a bit of a system resources hog, so if your PC is a bit short on RAM or whatever, then it can slow things down. Your slow internet browsing is probably due to that. However, if your Azureus downloads really are flying (or you have loads on the go at once) then it could be that it's using up all your bandwidth. Have a look at the speeds. If you like, you can throttle down the total download (and upload) speeds in Azureus. Assuming it's set up like the mac version, see that thing at the bottome that says "u:x b/s" and dxb/s, with some numbers in place of x? Those are your current upload and download speeds. Right click on those and change them, if you like, from Unlimited, to a lower figure. I'd suggest 15 kb/s for Upload and 75 kb/s for Download, if you're on a 1MB connection.

Having said all that, a friend of mine uses the Windows Azureus and says it has recently started completely hogging all her bandwidth even when she's only getting 10 kb/s on her Azureus downloads, so maybe it's buggy.

On a mac, Azureus is definitely the best client I've tried, though I keep having to tell it not to download the latest axplugin (v1.8.8) cause every time I do, it fucks up my port forwarding somehow and my download speeds plummet.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 17 December 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

(you can also throttle down the upload/download speed of individual downloads in Azureus, if you need to, by right clicking on them and choosing 'Advanced')

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 17 December 2005 11:25 (twenty years ago)

Thank you very much Nick - I have played with the throttle and I think it's a RAM-hogging issue more than a bandwidth issue. And I'm not quite sure what I can do about that - is there an alternative, more lightweight program that migh suit me better?

(I mean, my machine isn't crappy - it has a 2Mb broadband connection and a Gb of RAM and the resource manager thingy tells me Azureus is using up only about 60Mb, so I'd have expected it to be able to handle it okay.)

― Markelby (Mark C), Saturday, 17 December 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that sounds ample. I guess Windows Azureus is just BAD. Sorry. It's a shame, cause it's a great client otherwise (on a mac, anyway).

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 17 December 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

Markelby, I use µTorrent at the moment, after migrating from Azureus and it seems a little better on the system resources. With my 512mb of RAM I used to have problems just listening to music at the same time as using Azureus. This one's cleared all that up.

― melton mowbray (adr), Saturday, 17 December 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

Thanks, melton mowbray (if that's your REAL name) - I guess I should wait for my current DLs to finish before migrating (Curb Yr Enthusiasm is going to take 6 more days or something, sigh)?

― Markelby (Mark C), Saturday, 17 December 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

toby I may be able to help you w. oink - e-mail at the address below

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 17 December 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

ha shit spoke too soon - just went over to oink to login appears I've been kicked for inactivity : /

oh well, never could forward my fkn ports to use it effectively anyway

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 17 December 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

... plus OiNK is really fkn nazi and unfun abt the whole thing it just put me off even going near it at all for fear of being sucked into tht kind of approach to music and sharing it y'know

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 17 December 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

Hmm, you may or may not have to, as it's definitely possibly to point µTorrent to the data you've already downloaded and continute. However, I'm not completely sure how to do this, and probably wouldn't have the guts if I were halfway through a big download. Six days is a long time to wait though!

xpost - The same happened to me on UKn0\/4 - what a bummer! It feels strange being kicked off of something for not enough illegal activity.

― melton mowbray (adr), Saturday, 17 December 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

can someone run by me again the process whereby u can isolate individual files in a torrent for download instead of having the get the whole thing? someone on ilm did go thru it once but i cannae recall where.

looking at azureus ive gone into details > files > and set the ones i want to high priority - amirite?

― hold tight the private caller (mwah), Saturday, 17 December 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

aight fiddly enough but its worked fine. i spose that must be it then

brainy, me

― hold tight the private caller (mwah), Saturday, 17 December 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

thanks cozen but i'm on now anyway. it is a little terrifying though - otoh the whole 192+ thing makes a lot of sense, as do most of their other rules.

― toby (tsg20), Saturday, 17 December 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

yeah but still... nasty after taste innit

― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 17 December 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

so what kind of TV shows should I download?

― A Nairn (moretap), Saturday, 17 December 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

you're right, cozen. although i'm not really sure why it feels nastier than eg leeching on slsk (but it does).

[incidentally have you heard the new coil album yet? you must!]

― toby (tsg20), Saturday, 17 December 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

I looked into freenet - but I couldnt get it to work - its nice to be invisible though

― Mike Hanle y (mike), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

I started with soulseek last nice. Please be nicer to be than they were on ILM. I found tons of individual songs, but is there a specific way to search for albums? I found one album just bc it was attached to a song that I searched. I also searched by album title but that usually led me to just one song. Do I have to go into that host's files and check out all their folders?

Also, how do you choose who to dl from, if a number of people are listing it? Sometimes I would just choose from the person with 50 in the line, and that would come faster than the person with 0 or 1 in the line.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 05:04 (twenty years ago)

a little teasing won't hurt, mary.

soulseek searches by text strings, so if you search for an album name, you should get easy access to all of a user's matching files. you can go into the user's files if you want, but it's not necessary. sometimes people only have one track from a given album in a folder, so the "just one song" result happens.

normally the person with the shortest queue is best, but you also need to consider the speed of their connection. an shortish queue but fast connection works better oftentimes.

both of these things are pretty obvious (ie immediately visible), which may be why you get grief. i switched over to mac version a few months ago, so i don't remember the exact interface and therefore can't walk you through everything.

― Mitya (mitya), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 06:51 (twenty years ago)

The reason I asked was because, sometimes the one's with no queue didn't work at all, so I thought that the 50 people waiting in the other queue might know something that I don't.

I've downloaded a ton of songs by now--I don't need anyone to walk me through it. I'm just asking for advice, which is usually something I'm happy to give to others when I can.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 07:20 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

Hi again,

What do you do if, after you've finished DLing, Windows Media Player tells you there's a error with the codec and you're left with only sound but no pictures?

― Markelby (Mark C), Saturday, 7 January 2006 00:34 (twenty years ago)

Download VLC and run it on that instead?

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 7 January 2006 01:10 (twenty years ago)

where is best for field recordings?

― calderdale in the 70s (gareth), Saturday, 7 January 2006 01:11 (twenty years ago)

The field?

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 7 January 2006 01:12 (twenty years ago)

its late

― calderdale in the 70s (gareth), Saturday, 7 January 2006 01:13 (twenty years ago)

Do people tend to not like it when you try to download the complete One Kiss...Rhino Girl Group box set from them? I got 30 songs before the user suspiciously went "off-line" never to return. What is the etiquette? Is it gauche to go for more than say 10 or so songs?

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 7 January 2006 01:18 (twenty years ago)

on slsk?

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 7 January 2006 01:20 (twenty years ago)

depends on the user. they should say in their information. i think 30 is probably ok, but is upper limit for random people

going offline is probably just that, people more likely to ban if they get upset

― calderdale in the 70s (gareth), Saturday, 7 January 2006 01:25 (twenty years ago)

People get far too precious on slsk. If you lined up 90 from me I wouldn't complain. Certanly, 30 doesn't seem unreasonable.

― Guilty Boksen (Bro_Danielson), Saturday, 7 January 2006 01:28 (twenty years ago)

well, it kinda depends on whether you're sharing anything yourself

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 7 January 2006 01:29 (twenty years ago)

oh i dont mind! no one ever downloads from me anyway. but when i queue more than 20, it always says "are you sure? i mean, 23 is quite a lot"

― calderdale in the 70s (gareth), Saturday, 7 January 2006 01:30 (twenty years ago)

I want to share but I don't exactly know how. I need Charlton Lido to teach me. Yeah, I thought that since whenever I try to appropriate someone's collection I get this warning like, some users will ban you for asking for that many tracks, so I feel all guilty and dirty. Does it slow someone's computer down if I borrow their music? Those girl group tracks are nice. Perhaps I will harass a new person.

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 7 January 2006 01:34 (twenty years ago)

I need Charlton Lido to teach me...to...feel all guilty and dirty

as do we all

― mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 7 January 2006 01:38 (twenty years ago)

you dont answer your phone!

― charltonlido (gareth), Saturday, 7 January 2006 01:39 (twenty years ago)

xxxpost At the moment I have about 380 shared (in the past it has been over 2000), but I take your point mookie.

I think you have to be prepared to give if you want to receive (so many jokes...).

― Guilty Boksen (Bro_Danielson), Saturday, 7 January 2006 02:02 (twenty years ago)

Do I need to organize my files into neat little folders or something?

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 7 January 2006 02:18 (twenty years ago)

you dont have to, but...its better

― charltonlido (gareth), Saturday, 7 January 2006 02:20 (twenty years ago)

All the Claudine Longet listeners ban me.

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 7 January 2006 06:35 (twenty years ago)

try talking to them first? use quaint emoticons to charm them ;-()

― HAKKEBOFFER (eman), Saturday, 7 January 2006 06:46 (twenty years ago)

its possible they are banning you because you are only sharing 16 songs (though it wont let me browse you for some reason)

― charltonlido (gareth), Saturday, 7 January 2006 10:37 (twenty years ago)

I get a warning when I want to download more than 20 MP3s: some warning pops up and asks if I'm sure I want to cause many users dislike others downloading that many MP3s. Personally I don't mind at all. I do mind cluttery folders because it's so hard to have a look in'em. :-)

― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Saturday, 7 January 2006 10:56 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I am sharing songs? I only did those as a test, but when I searched for myself I couldn't find them. I want to put up a lot of songs but I am hesitant because I don't how to organize it so that if people try to dl from me that don't accidentally end up dling everything.

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 7 January 2006 20:35 (twenty years ago)

I shared a bunch of crap I bought off itunes, but this is m4p; is it possible for others to convert to mp3, or should I share other stuff? Also, how much is safe to share?

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 9 January 2006 06:28 (twenty years ago)

Things you bought off iTunes are unsharable, Mary. Well, they're not, but people won't be able to play them without your iTunes password - they have digital rights management stuff embedded.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 9 January 2006 08:17 (twenty years ago)

Also, how much is safe to share?

glib answer: nothing at all. welcome to the wonderful world of illegal file-sharing, where the illicit thrill is just part of the joy :)

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 9 January 2006 10:20 (twenty years ago)

Alba, thank you very much, VLC appears to do the business!

― Markelby (Mark C), Monday, 9 January 2006 10:38 (twenty years ago)

hmmmm.

― hold tight the private caller (mwah), Monday, 9 January 2006 11:53 (twenty years ago)

brrrrr. sharing with a firefox extension? that sounds like a good way to fuck shit up.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 9 January 2006 11:59 (twenty years ago)

Thanks Alba, that's good to know. I better try to upload some other stuff.

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 9 January 2006 18:36 (twenty years ago)

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