so ive started to take zoloft. is drinking pretty much out?

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i took my first doc perscribed dose (50mgs) today. Ive been suffering from severe depression (isn't it always 'severe'?)
for months now, and im serious about getting better. i was told that drinking is a terrible idea by both doctor and another zoloft users. anyone have any experience with this?

logged out, but cautiously happier, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 01:20 (twenty years ago)

we would have to know who you are before we can say whether we prefer you sober.

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 01:21 (twenty years ago)


im not talking about getting drunk. im talking about drinking at all. if being anonymous is a problem, sorry, i just dont feel comfortable talking as 'me'. or internet 'me'. or whatever.

logged out, BCH, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 01:24 (twenty years ago)

Trayce,
Don't drink and do drugs :(.

yourfriend, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 01:28 (twenty years ago)

fair enough.

if you're serious about getting better, you probably shouldn't be asking ilx for third opinions on something already deemed a 'terrible idea' by both your doctor and existing users.

wow, xpost.

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 01:29 (twenty years ago)

if you're depressed, you shouldn't drink anyway!

alcohol is a DEPRESSANT.

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 01:30 (twenty years ago)

so a trained medical professional as well as people who have first-hand knowledge of the drug have said it's not a good idea, but you want the opinion of a bunch of interweb mentalists? i think you should ask your tell your doctor about that and see if there's a pill he recommends.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 01:30 (twenty years ago)

Nice way to alienate a depressed person, people!

Congrats, you're likely going to feel a whole lot better very soon. But don't drink for a very very long time and then only a tiny bit. I've seen people go mental on too much booze + meds

Thea (Thea), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 01:34 (twenty years ago)

i change my post to what oops said

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 01:39 (twenty years ago)

thanks guys, i know the question doesn't warrant much sympathy. if im serious about getting better, then i should follow doctors orders, etc etc.

i just have two freinds with birthday parties this week (at bars), and im gonna feel bad to miss them (because im not sure i trust myself to be there and not drink.)

logged out BCH, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 01:40 (twenty years ago)

have you been diagnosed as depressed or as an alcoholic?

i used to think i was a drug addict, then i started taking my antidepressants. for a while, i fucked around w/ mixing drugs + antidepressants, then i got anti-depressed enough that i didn't really feel the urge to do any more drugs. i didn't need to self-medicate w/ street drugs because i had a prescription for more effective (and mostly side-effect free) antidepressants.

the flip side = serious side effects between drinking + zoloft (and other antidepressants) is pretty rare. probably more dangerous to drink + take aspirin.

the real point is that if you are depressed, you should prob rethink drinking as a lifestyle choice.

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 01:45 (twenty years ago)

actually, if you're making a commitment to being on meds for the next little while, this could be a good way to prove to yourself that you needn't forgo your social life in order to do so. plus, you need to be around friends now more than ever! just remember: alcohol is a depressant. plus, if you get tempted, you can always leave. baby steps.

xpost

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 01:45 (twenty years ago)

A friend of mine used to drink while on Zoloft. If he had more than a few, he went FUCKING BONKERS. Totally irrational, theatrical gushes of emotion from a hitherto very emotionally reserved guy.


Just saying.

giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 01:51 (twenty years ago)

I got drunk a few times while on Zoloft and it didn't do me much harm (you just get intoxicated much faster than normal).

Juk FUn, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 01:56 (twenty years ago)

everybody is different. with alcohol. with drugs. with alcohol & drugs. just watch yourself.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 02:00 (twenty years ago)

Hahah I can assure you this thread was not posted by me - I dont do anti-deps, I dont need anything like that even remotely =)

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 03:10 (twenty years ago)

But nice try, jon.

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 03:12 (twenty years ago)

Hell naw. I take 100mg of Zoloft and I still get pissed, and there's no problem with it.

ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 03:23 (twenty years ago)

I haven't tried Zoloft, but I've gotten very drunk before on Prozac (which the internets inform me is the same type of drug).

I seemed much more aggressive and dangerously uninhibited than usual. e.g. trying to pick fights with strangers (fortunately, they ignored me, because I am a puny nerd who couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag), shrieking insults at passers by, throwing things at parked cars. Sober, I am shy as hell and even drunk I'm usually fairly polite and reserved. But on prozac+vodka I was basically a violent, belligerent cunt. Assuming that it was the prozac that was responsible and I wasn't just in a violent and cuntish mood that night.

Anyway, I try to be cautious with combining the two now, since I got this prescribed. Be careful.

kenneth, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 03:32 (twenty years ago)

i haven't had any problems drinking whilst zolofting.

though i've found that zoloft has weakened my memory, and obviously alcohol isn't going to help that one bit.

kleenex, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 03:42 (twenty years ago)

I ended up in the hospital after drinking while on Zoloft: DON'T!

remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 04:46 (twenty years ago)

I take zoloft and drink. my doctor didn't mention anything about it. This is the first I've ever heard about that.

Oh and 50mg is not a very large dose FWIW.

also logged out, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 04:47 (twenty years ago)

Can I drink alcohol while on Zoloft?

Taking Zoloft with alcohol isn't recommended.

(from Zoloft website)

also logged out, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 04:50 (twenty years ago)

Dear Alice,

I just started taking Zoloft today. I am going on vacation next week and am wondering if it is safe to drink while on this medication. I can't seem to get a straight answer from anyone. I'm not talking about drinking to oblivion; I'm talking about having a couple of drinks by the campfire. Is this okay?


Dear Reader,

Many people who take Zoloft, Prozac, and other depression-related medications drink light to moderate amounts of alcohol without serious side effects, or any effects at all. However, it's important to know what the possible interactions may be so that you can be on the lookout.

When there is a noticeable reaction from mixing alcohol with anti-depressants, it's often an amplified response to the alcohol, i.e., one drink may end up feeling like two. If you usually feel tired, or even a bit depressed, after drinking, then you might feel even more so if you're on anti-depressants. Zoloft (generically known as sertraline) is an anti-depressant in the class known as selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, or SSRIs. It affects your brain's ability to absorb serotonin, which acts as a neurotransmitter, transmitting nerve impulses between nerve cells and affecting mood. Alcohol also affects serotonin levels in your brain by altering your brain's production of it. That's why using these two drugs together could produce unexpected and unwanted emotions. The use of alcohol could also possibly affect Zoloft's ability to do what it is supposed to do.

also logged out, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 04:52 (twenty years ago)

Did some research and here is the impression I got:

1. Drinking with Zoloft might make you get more drunk and emotional.

2. People who have depression most likely shouldn't be drinking, so if you're taking Zoloft for depression, don't drink.

also logged out, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 05:00 (twenty years ago)

actually...another thing to note is that contrary to asl's "Dear Alice" quote, the Prozac/Alcohol combination made me feel very awake, not sedated at all. I got up at 7am one day, started drinking at 11 that night, and then only got to sleep at about 3pm the next day, after spending most of the early morning stumbling uncoordinatedly but energetically around Edinburgh from about 1 to 8 in the morning.

kenneth (kenneth), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 05:51 (twenty years ago)

A friend of mine used to drink while on Zoloft. If he had more than a few, he went FUCKING BONKERS. Totally irrational, theatrical gushes of emotion from a hitherto very emotionally reserved guy.

I always thought that alcohol doesn't really influence your behavior (chemically), that it's always due to culture learning how to react to too much alcohol. (One case showed that people being exposed to alcohol were first very gay 'n' happy... Only after seeing sailors visiting the island being aggressive after too much booze, made these islanders also react aggressive.) I don't know about the combination of Zoloft and alcohol though. On top of that, how dependant are you on alcohol? Better to remain as *clean* as possible to focus on recovery. Good luck. :-)

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 08:08 (twenty years ago)

In America, you take zoloft. In Soviet Russia, zoloft takes YOU!

Yakov Smirnoff, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 08:09 (twenty years ago)

i'm on antidepressants. i wouldn't risk drinking while on meds, as i've noticed when i drink my reactions can be rather odd and unpredictable. i tend to get drunk a lot faster than normal, but also it fucks with my mood. if you do drink be careful!

latebloomer: Deutsch Bag (latebloomer), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

People who have depression most likely shouldn't be drinking

uh, the depression is WHY we drink!

Penis, NV (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)

otm

jim p. irrelevant (electricsound), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)

Yes, but that's why you should stop drinking.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)

does not compute

Penis, NV (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

One thing being misunderstood here I think, is that depressant != makes you depressed.

From wikipedia:

A depressant is a chemical agent that diminishes the function or activity. The term is used in particular with regard to the central nervous system (CNS). In that case these chemicals are known as neurotransmitters. Depressants intended to act on the CNS do so by increasing the activity of a particular neurotransmitter known as gamma-aminobutyric acid (GABA).

GABA's task is to calm the CNS and to promote sleep. Drugs that stimulate the production of this amino acid produce slowed brain activity and a drowsy or calm feeling, and so depressants are generally prescribed to relieve symptoms of anxiety or insomnia. Internal systems regulate the body's production of GABA, but when medication is taken to stimulate GABA production, it is possible to induce hazardously high levels, which can dangerously slow breathing and heart rates, and may result in death.

CNS depressants require a period of adaptation. Typically, initial side effects include slurred speech, dizziness, and loss of coordination, in many respects similar to the effects of alcohol (which is itself a CNS depressant).

Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, people often get that wrong: alcohol isn't a depressant in the emotional sense, but in its phsyiological effects.

paulhw (paulhw), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

but alcohol, like street drugs, is just a form of self-medication that ultimately causes more problems than it solves.

I haven't come across any pyschotropic medication (and I've taken more than a dozen) that doesn't come with a 'no drinking' warning. Have I been sober for the last ten years? no. But my drinking certainly has waned. I find these days I don't even enjoy a drink (which is a good sign your meds are working). As said above, everyone's different. But if you do drink on Zoloft and find the results tolerable don't take that as carte blanche to drink all the time. It's a waste of your money. They don't work they way they're supposed to if you're throwing a wrench in the works with bootleg meds.

Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

I've known a few friends on zoloft. I'd suggest not drinking, or drinking very minimally. Try to hold off until you've been taking it a while so that you're somewhat attuned to the drug.

I'd also recommend having your doctor move you to something other than zoloft after your mood is more stable, as everyone I've known who's taken it has had the lows AND the highs removed from their emotions under the drug. It's great for evening you out, but it will leave you unnaturally even, zombielike even.

mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

I don't think zoloft makes you zombie like - maybe if taken in large doses. A lot of people avoid taking medication for depression, because of that kind of statement.

Super Cub (Debito), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

No, I mean taking zoloft was absolutely essential for these friends, but I would not recommend it for long-term use based on their experiences. I've heard of others who have deemed it necessary, so results may vary. It certainly isn't meant to be a blanket dismissal of antidepressants since overall I'd say they've worked well with my friends and family. In any case, be careful with the alcohol.

mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, zoloft has that leveling effect on one's mood. For some, it's exactly what they need, because their moods need some leveling. For others, the leveling effect isn't so appealing.

Super Cub (Debito), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)


um, by leveling, do you mean utterly confused all day? because thats how ive felt (its only the second day of this and i truly feel like i could float away. does it get better?)

Logged out BCH, Thursday, 15 December 2005 00:58 (twenty years ago)

just had half a dozen beers and here i am, sane as the day is long. if you know what i mean. my guess is that if you are capable of handling reasonable amounts of alcohol sans-zoloft you will probably be just fine avec-.

or you could have a violently different reaction. nyquil puts me to sleep, but it seems to make some people wired. as fred from scooby-doo used to say, "there's only one way to find out."

kleenex, Thursday, 15 December 2005 02:55 (twenty years ago)

I drank on Zoloft, my husband drinks on Effexor and he's on 600mg (which is way over what the FDA recommends) In my experience with Zoloft and his with Effexor, you just get drunk way way way quicker.

The Other Kate (papa november), Thursday, 15 December 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)


that is an awful lot of effexor. it's gonna be bad if he ever tries to quit it :(

kleenex, Thursday, 15 December 2005 03:05 (twenty years ago)

Tell me about it. Worst part is he's still pretty depressed and miserable most of the time.

The Other Kate (papa november), Thursday, 15 December 2005 03:06 (twenty years ago)

taken it has had the lows AND the highs removed from their emotions under the drug. It's great for evening you out, but it will leave you unnaturally even, zombielike even.

you have to remember everybody's chemistry is different. e.g. I was on 200 mg of Zoloft for about 4 years and had to get off b/c it made me so panicky and manic-like. Turns out that's because I was bipolar not just depressed. But, yeah, I've never had an AD make me feel zombie-like. Not even mood stablizers have done this and they are meant to "level" you out.

Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Thursday, 15 December 2005 03:24 (twenty years ago)

um, by leveling, do you mean utterly confused all day? because thats how ive felt (its only the second day of this and i truly feel like i could float away. does it get better?)

Days 2-4 of being on it I felt completely spaced out (there was a point where I was crossing the road and I just felt like I was floating across it oblivious to cars), but that cleared up fairly soon. So that should get better.

I'm glad my doctor told me not to drink when I first went on it and wish I'd followed his advice more closely when he said after about two months that I could start to drink again but only a little and to be careful. It made me a much louder and more impulsive/reckless drunk than before and lowered my alcohol tolerance considerably, plus the drink would hit me really suddenly - I'd feel pretty much sober one minute and feel horribly nauseously over-drunk and/or become an emotional mess five minutes later. Getting stoned on top of sertraline and a few drinks was something I wouldn't try again; it may have been a coincidence or just bad luck but the closest I can get to describing it is a 24-hour-long panic attack with frequent blackouts. Not fun at all.

Point taken about the meaning of "depressant", but when I started to feel a bit better I would really notice feeling a lot lower a day or two after drinking, even if I'd only had a couple of drinks and not felt even tipsy. This was after I stopped the SSRIs, so it wasn't because of the interaction. It doesn't happen so much now and I probably wouldn't have been able to notice any difference at my lowest point, but after that I saw the sense of the idea that depressives should mostly avoid alcohol. (I don't now I'm on more of an even keel, but I certainly cut down a lot.)

R. (reb), Thursday, 15 December 2005 03:35 (twenty years ago)

I'm curious as to wether zoloft or effexor (which I coped better with) would actually help STOP me drinking and taking codiene. Prozac did, but its side effects were so facking awful I couldnt have it.

I constantly felt like I was on a really BAD e-rush all the time on everythign I tried :( Which is why I just dont, anymore. I'm not depressed tho, not these days, so its ok.

Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 15 December 2005 03:54 (twenty years ago)

xpost to R

yeah, OTM, as far as that crossing the street feeling goes. I ended up leaving my apartment to go to a 7-11, and ended up miles away at a giant, wondering why i couldn't find sour cream amongst the cottage cheese.

logged out BCH, Thursday, 15 December 2005 04:14 (twenty years ago)


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