Countdown to Canadian Federal Election 2006 Thread

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MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

Could you introduce the candidates for the uninitiated?

Klaus Darko (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 21:29 (twenty years ago)

Here's what I've been wondering: what's with the Conservative obsession with presenting Harper as a "man of the people"? Does the Conservative voter base really see him as a charismatic, down-to-earth guy (kinda like the way Republican voters think about George W. Bush)?

The Liberals are smart enough to not have Paul Martin in their commercials, since it's not like Martin is Captain Charisma or relatable in any way. He's spoken about but never seen.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

Rough Guide to party leaders:

Conservative: Stephen Harper. Smarmy douchebag. Adores US Republicans.
Liberal: Paul Martin (current PM). Less smarmy. You take the good with the bad.
NDP: Jack Layton. Thinks he's so suave. Trying his best to make socialism more of a factor in mainstream federal politics.
Bloc Quebecois: Gilles Duceppe. I think I would really like Duceppe if it weren't for the whole seperatism thing.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)

The BQ only run candidates in Quebec, so Duceppe technically can't become the PM, but they do hold enough seats in Parliament to be a huge factor. Plus, you know, separatism and all that. He takes part in all of the televised debates, for instance.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

if martin is less smarmy than harper it's not by much

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

For the first time in my life, I'm actually living in a riding where the winner isn't essentially predetermined. At this point it could go either way (Bloc or Liberal). I'm probably gonna pay more attention to this election than I usually do.

peter in montreal (spaces are allowed), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

Everyone should feel free to offer their own Rough Guide to the candidates (mine is a bit biased).

MIRloggedout, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 22:36 (twenty years ago)

Stephen Harper: Loves beer, loves popcorn.
Paul Martin: Hates beer, fears popcorn.
Jack Layton: Fears beer (makes him "chatty"), loves popcorn.
Gilles Duceppe: Beer? Popcorn? You call that culture?*

*translated from French

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 15 December 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Harper loves beer? I'm having a hard time picturing that. I figure he drinks nothing but rainwater and pure grain alcohol. Preserves his precious bodily fluids, maintains purity of essence, that sort of thing.

pauls00, Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

Your search - "Stephen Harper drinks beer" - did not match any documents.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

http://www.cbc.ca/arts/images/pics/4leaders_cp_8976139.jpg

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

Oh that's intriguing. I would never have figured Harper to cross his legs at the knee.

Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

Someone remind me again what the NDP were hoping to gain by voting against the sitting goverment...

Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

Someone remind me again what the NDP were hoping to gain by voting against the sitting goverment?

Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

crap

Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

that's right.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

Keep waiting for that reminder, Sundar. I was bitching about that on another thread too.

Are there any attempts to answer my question posed at the top of the thread?

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

Clearly, Stephen Harper needs to catch a baby dropped from a burning building.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 15 December 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

Okay, so Stephen Harper says one of his first priorities will be to establish fixed election dates. NO SHIT, Bright Eyes!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 19 December 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

I just registered to vote!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 02:12 (twenty years ago)

I don't understand the fixed election date thing. Why is anyone thinking this would be a good thing? I mean, it may not be a bad thing, either, but I would've thought there are a lot of other things that could be fixed in the Canadian electoral system (the Senate, ahem), that may be more important. And aren't fixed election dates kind of a conflict with the whole parliamentary system? Mind you, I never studied political "science" in school.

pauls00, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 04:06 (twenty years ago)

I hate this whole idea of a fixed election date. Does this mean we'd be stuck with a US system where no matter how unpoplular or disfunctional a gov't gets were stuck with them for 4 years?
God, I can only imagine how brutal the media coverage running up to a fixed election date might get. How long do you think before they run out of things to talk about? Because year long election campaigns are just what we need.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 05:21 (twenty years ago)

I don't understand the fixed election date thing either.

Enviro-stud and eye columnist Gord Perks is the NDP candidate in my new riding.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 05:26 (twenty years ago)

Rough Guide to party leaders:

Conservative :: Stephen Harper :: Much like that dude from Ghost in the Shell he is now more android than man. Once killed over 50 seniors when a glitch in his cybernetic brain caused him to ramble about Liberal corruption for 38 hours straight - sucking all the air out of the tiny auditorium. Has an unhealthy affinity for chaps.

Liberal :: Paul Martin (current PM) :: Ex-shipping tycoon who became head of the Liberal party and de facto Canadian PM after defeating former PM Jean Chretien in a stuttering contest. Still receives a weekly allowance from his parents and is rumoured to occasionally wet the bed.

NDP :: Jack Layton :: Barely speaks english and when he does we all wish we didn't. Had a disappointing finnish in the previous election on his ill-advised "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" platform. Has the yellow fever.

Bloc Quebecois :: Gilles Duceppe :: Rehabilitated supervillain. Has the dreamiest blue eyes and is probably too smart to be in politics.

Green :: Jim Harris :: "Hu?"

xpost - HEy me too!!! Davenport reprezent!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 05:49 (twenty years ago)

http://www.warrenkinsella.com/images/harper1.jpg

to those who haven't seen this pic: THIS IS NOT A PHOTOSHOP JOB

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 07:05 (twenty years ago)

We had our first fixed election this spring in BC, and my feelings are mixed. On one hand, the campaign was easy to plan in an insider sense. We convened an election planning committee in January for a May election, and planned out a four-month campaign, effectively, in terms of securing supplies, finding an office, committing resources, planning vacation dates, etc. and two days before the writ officially dropped, we had enough ground organization to blitz the riding with several hundred signs. In Vancouver, where signs are only permitted on private property, to have that many up so quickly is very rare. Compared to an abrupt snap election, where the first week or so of a campaign is spent pulling things together, a fixed date is luxurious.

That said, what was lacking from the BC election, I felt, was any sense of excitement. Either from the long-term planning or the contiunous extra-parliamentary anti-Campbell nonsense that everyone was exhausted from, May 17th felt like the final end to a long, long march. It felt so inevitable, like a major holiday; all the excitement about an election (Now! right now! we're runing out of time!) that we can use to get pumped up now when no one knows the exact date was gone. Now, this may have been peculiar to the race I worked in or this election's dynamics, but I didn't like it. I like the balls-in-the-air, anything-can-happen jitters from a snap election.

derrick (derrick), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 07:58 (twenty years ago)

Well, isn't it pretty duplicitous of Harper to extoll the virtues of a fixed election date, since, um, he's spent the last year trying to force an election?
I mean, I think the idea that Parliament can be dissolved when it loses confidence in the gov't is a pretty frigging great one, even though I think the latest attempts at Non-Confidence Motions (going back to last spring, as well as the most recent, successful one) were utterly motivated by sheer political ambition and nothing else. Which, y'know, sucks, and has completely undermined the final report from Gomery (which will come like two weeks after the next gov't is formed).

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

also, what the fuck is up with Tucker Carlson?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

I read Harper has Fox News running in his office consistently as his source for information. That should tell you something.

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

Word is that T.C. called Canada the USA's "retarded cousin" last week.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

I do wonder how much of what Tucker says is a schtick/tongue-in-cheek - maybe he'd be a fun guy to go out and have a wine spritzer with or something. Although sometimes I want to knife him in the kidneys.

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

He's the U.S. version of Evan Solomon, I think, only amplified.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Here's the story. If nobody else wants to do it, I'll stand in as the retarded cousin.

Bryan (Bryan), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

The paper here ran the story on the front page with a photo of TC looking like, well, a retarded cousin. Er, looking ESPECIALLY like an RC.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

ok, so a fixed election date might make it easier for the political machines to get organized. But is that really an advantage? I'm a big fan of the whole dissolution of Parliament thing, too. Or maybe I just like dissolution in general. Pass the absinthe, please.

I just haven't heard any reasons, yet, why fixed election dates would be any kind of improvement on the current system. I've heard people say it might make parties more accountable, but I think it might have almost the opposite effect. I'd rather that they put their energies, political reform-wise, into some better form of proportional representation.

I thought Duceppe was the best of a bad bunch in the debates. About the only one who didn't just repeat the talking points that had obviously been planned beforehand. Too bad about the rehabilitated supervillain thing, though. Although having a supervillain in charge would make things more interesting. "Retarded cousin", eh? More like "retarded cousin with a laser gun that can heat the earth's core to a million degrees if you don't meet this list of insane demands!" mwah, hah, hah....

pauls00, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

Which, y'know, sucks, and has completely undermined the final report from Gomery (which will come like two weeks after the next gov't is formed).

The NDP is more to blame for that.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

I do wonder how much of what Tucker says is a schtick/tongue-in-cheek - maybe he'd be a fun guy to go out and have a wine spritzer with or something.

75%

Carlson *usually* doesn't sink down to this sub-O'Reilly level ... there were some episodes of Crossfire where he was getting roasted over the war or whatever and he'd almost be laughing as if to admit "yeah, I know my viewpoint is a bit fucked but I have to say this stuff because that's the whole point of this show". I haven't seen him since he's been on MSNBC, but I gather that they hired him to act like a straight-faced no-bullshit conservative douchebag because controversy = ratings, or something.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

What's the big deal about the final report? It's just going to lay out ideas for how to prevent this from happening again. The one we saw a few months ago that laid blame was the juicy one!

xpost

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

OH NOES! Ralph Goodale (my local MP, and SK's only Cabinet Minister) in hot water!

And CTV Newsnet just reported that illegal music downloading could become a hot issue in the campaign. There must be an intern filling in on the newsdesk over the holidays.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 29 December 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

What the hell is with the surge in Tory support?

And did Paul Martin just say that aboriginal people were "the root cause of poverty"?

(I know what he *meant* to say, but I don't think that's what he said)

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 02:01 (twenty years ago)

b/c people forget mulroney

anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 03:35 (twenty years ago)

Tucker Carlson is my new hero.

Freud Junior, Third Cousin to Chuck Norris (Freud Junior), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 03:41 (twenty years ago)

xxpost: That is indeed what he said -- caused some eyebrow-raising in our household, I'll tell you whut. I trust it wasn't what he *meant* to say...!

Surfer_Stone_Rosalita (Surfer_Stone_Rosalita), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 03:42 (twenty years ago)

I am voting for the Canadian Communist Party (aka. NDP) because it's a two-party race in my riding. Libby Davies is my candidate: lesbian super-hero. And the Christian Heritage Party have drifted too far to the left for me.

Freud Junior, Third Cousin to Chuck Norris (Freud Junior), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 03:44 (twenty years ago)

So Marting slurred First-Nations people in the debate. What a dick. I hate him even more. Even if it was accidental.

Freud Junior, Third Cousin to Chuck Norris (Freud Junior), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 03:45 (twenty years ago)

Canadian politics rule!

Freud Junior, Third Cousin to Chuck Norris (Freud Junior), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 03:46 (twenty years ago)

A serious question: How is it that we allow a party with the intention of breaking from our country to debate a FEDERAL debate? And just because Duceppe has a Quebecois accent does not an intellectual make him.

Freud Junior, Third Cousin to Chuck Norris (Freud Junior), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 03:47 (twenty years ago)

Separatism is a key federal issue -- look at it this way, would you feel better if it *wasn't* given national attention. 25% of Canada's population lives in Quebec and that's a significant portion of the *nation's* electorate.

Also, the BQ could be part of a coalition govt in principle (even though they claim it will never happen). Regardless, any party that holds a non-ignorable number of votes in Canada's parliament is a party whose platform I want to hear discussed in a national forum.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 04:48 (twenty years ago)

Ok, I knew someone would give an intelligent reply to my rash statement. But still, when is this issue gonna shit or get off the can?

Freud Junior, Third Cousin to Chuck Norris (Freud Junior), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 04:59 (twenty years ago)

aaagh! Possibly even in my riding! POSSIBLY ONLY.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 03:23 (twenty years ago)

I guess I still have 37 minutes to go buy that tear-drowning beer...

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 03:23 (twenty years ago)

Rrrobyn, if I could I get you a Fin Du Monde cause nobody should be forced to live in a Conservative riding (unless its Elsie Wayne).

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 03:33 (twenty years ago)

what sites are people using? I like http://cac28.insinc.com/cponline/election2006/elxn_eng.html

I'll be happy if Lib+NDP > CPC

älänbänänä (alanbanana), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 03:34 (twenty years ago)

is it true that alberta didnt elect anybody but cons

Anthony Easton, Tuesday, 24 January 2006 03:43 (twenty years ago)


liberal lost votes to bloc in quebec, like near the mecca of federalism! souveraineté is night! anyway the federal elections are never that fun for me, no contender to the "real" elections @ the provincial level.

346346@34254.net, Tuesday, 24 January 2006 03:45 (twenty years ago)

oh great, another minority. see you all back here in six months.

yuengling participle (rotten03), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 03:46 (twenty years ago)

Fuck, I could have been watching Lambada rather then Bif Naked stuttering infront of Deborah Grey.

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 03:51 (twenty years ago)

these CBC guys are entirely too chummy. mansbridge needs to regulate.

yuengling participle (rotten03), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 03:53 (twenty years ago)

What 1980s election did the CBC steal their graphics from?

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 03:54 (twenty years ago)

Lambada? you sick bastard.

Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 03:57 (twenty years ago)

We might as well turn this thread into a "months until the next election prediction" poll.

Dave says 6 mos.
I say 23 mos.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 04:03 (twenty years ago)

Is 6 months the minimum?

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 04:09 (twenty years ago)

You know, I kind of have a weirdly good feeling about this. I'm glad the Liberals are out of power but that along with the NDP (who've vastly increased their representation) they trounce the Tories. A Conservative govt kept in line by the Liberals and NDP can't be too bad. I love minority governments personally. I really think they tend to work best + I see no reason why any government should remain in power for more than two years before an election.

Sundar (sundar), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 04:15 (twenty years ago)

A minority government living hand to mouth isn't the best way to run a country.

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 04:30 (twenty years ago)

Instability is underrated.

Sundar (sundar), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 04:31 (twenty years ago)

So, yeah, Alberta is totally blue. And Stronach won her riding. And there's a minority Conservative govt, I guess.
I am glad I voted what I voted and went with what I believed in (or as close to that as possible...). Looking at the results, I don't know why anyone thought the Cons stood a chance (in Outremont). Looks like the Liberals are going to take it over the Bloc.

I hope you all are faring well with it all.

rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 04:35 (twenty years ago)

Kardinal Offishall and Melissa auf der Maur on CBC!

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 04:36 (twenty years ago)

I'm just amazed at how such a small sample size of the counted polls so far can pretty much determine the 'results'. I suppose that's why focus groups and opinion polls can often predict things with eerie accuracy...

My riding (Davenport) stayed Liberal, although I expected a lot more vote shuffling, since the incumbent (Silva), who being Portuguese had obvious guaranteed votes, came out (quietly, mind you) as gay during his recent term. This doesn't sit well with many of the older Portuguese, and figured there would be a chunk of votes over to the Cons (also a Portuguese candidate), since they couldn't stomach voting for the whitey NDP guy. I voted for the NDP dude because he did door-to-door, and I got to chat with him for a bit and he seemed like a good fella. Looks like he'll come in 2nd, mind you, so not bad. I did consider voting 'strategically', but I talked so much shit in the past about voting 'locally', I stuck to my guns...

So a Conservative minority, then. Well, better than a majority I suppose. And I'm inclinded to agree with Sundar - the instability of the parliament will hopefully keep that creepoid Harper and his cronies in check. And I've been thinking that maybe this country needed to experience a shitty conservative government (and leader) just to remind us not to do something silly like that again for a while.

And after being delivered a good slap, I predict a Liberal minority gov't next time, and blah-de blah blah... IT GOES ON LIKE THIS

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 04:54 (twenty years ago)

It's pretty close to working minority government. 125 Cons + 30 NDP/IND - 1 Speaker.

Will the Bloc prop up the government just to help in the upcoming election?

It should be noted that no party won seats in all provinces, with Liberals sweeping PEI (all 4 seats) and Cons sweeping Alberta.

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 05:12 (twenty years ago)

Martin just announced he was stepping down from the leadership of the Liberal Party.

Binjominia (Brilhante), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 05:15 (twenty years ago)

Well this hasn't been bad. We got rid of the Liberals but didn't give the conservatives a majority - not even more seats than the Liberals' last gov't! I wanted the NDP to hit 30 but, as things look now, 29 will do just fine. And most importantly (to our country) the Bloc vote slipped against all predictions. I don't even care that most the seats they lost went to the CPC. I'm now off to see what Liberals are left that could replace Martin.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 06:35 (twenty years ago)

Separatism got slammed tonight, that's for sure -- Quebecers hate the Liberals, but didn't choose to favour separatism in its place.

Westerners always complain that their votes don't matter because every election is decided in Ontario. Winning all of Alberta's 28 seats (more than their margin of victory) gives all non-Westerners a reason to slap anyone who still wishes to claim that.

(although one might also argue that the election was won by the Liberal -> Conservative shift in Quebec)

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 06:40 (twenty years ago)

what are you talking about? separatism didn't get "slammed".they did almost as good as last time?? federalist be spinning oh no

23554@235234.net, Tuesday, 24 January 2006 06:47 (twenty years ago)

Dude they went from 54 to 51 seats when everyone was predicting them to come in, at the very least, just short of 60.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 07:03 (twenty years ago)

They were supposed to get 50% of the vote, with an even larger majority said to be favouring separatism these days. Instead, the BQ got about 42% of the vote. And they didn't lose those votes to the Liberals, they lost them to the Tories, showing that Quebecers chose to vote federalist despite the Liberal collapse in the province. The CPC's emergence as a guinine 3rd party in Canada is one of the biggest stories of the election. That's not federalist spinning, that's what every news network is saying.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 07:26 (twenty years ago)

what, canada no longer utopia?!? Gosh, you just lost some valuable smug points against your lovable neighbors down south. Wtf, canuckians???

margaret true doh!, Tuesday, 24 January 2006 07:27 (twenty years ago)

50 or whatever it's still more than all the other contenders added together... and you know from the latest pool I was expecting this, them to do less good than last time. of course I'm not totally satisfied but it's not that much of a big deal: overall over here the bloc won , thankfully.

234234423@234234423.net, Tuesday, 24 January 2006 07:34 (twenty years ago)

Gosh, you just lost some valuable smug points against your lovable neighbors down south.

Some, but not all. Furthermore, the fact that he didn't win an outright majority means that Mr.Harper can't take things as far to the right as some, myself included, had feared. Don't expect the smugness to stop anytime soon. Besides, Canada's not a utopia. It just looks that way sometimes due to who we automatically get compared to.

J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 08:21 (twenty years ago)

now for the wave of former Cabinet Ministers resigning.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:35 (twenty years ago)

Hey Barry, I think I figured out what happened to my rollies last night. Last time we saw them we had a Liberal gov’t. Harper wins and then the drug paraphernalia mysteriously vanishes. The man works fast, I’ll give him that.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:04 (twenty years ago)

Up next Harper personally shoves aborted fetuses back in and has Debbie Grey perform some witchcraft to bring them back to life.

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:09 (twenty years ago)

The dollar's probably up, so it's a good day for internet shopping! YAY HARPER!

xpost

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Conservatives to sell PEI over EBay.

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:16 (twenty years ago)

SO, what happens with "Western Alienation" now? The Liberals made a point of appointing Western MPs to high Cabinet posts, Goodale, McLellan, Dosanjh. Will the Conservatives go the opposite, and appoint Ontarians to top positions to try to further appeal to those sexy 416ers?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:29 (twenty years ago)

Well there'll be a few Quebecers.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:32 (twenty years ago)

As for appealing to the 416, this wil have to do, I guess:

http://www.oracleofottawa.org/Tony_Clement.jpg

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:33 (twenty years ago)

He won by 21 votes, so I think it's automatic recount.

Peter MacKay Minister of Something He Can Be Hidden From Public View For.
Stockwell Day Minister of Prayer.

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:40 (twenty years ago)

Well, Stock WAS Foreign Affairs Critic, so, um, SHIT!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:42 (twenty years ago)

You know I dislike Belinda but I hope she becomes Peter MacKay's shadow critic.

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:58 (twenty years ago)

Minister of Skidoo affairs.

xpost ha ha! that should be her title!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:01 (twenty years ago)

"Mr. Speaker, let it be known the Honourable Minister cries after sex."

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:02 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of which...who will be the speaker? If I was Harper (AND I'M NOT, I PROMISISES), I'd totally approach that wacko independent Quebec radio guy for the job.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:03 (twenty years ago)

"Mr Speaker this will just take a minute which is more then Honourable minister of leaving the toliet seat up can say."

Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:08 (twenty years ago)

Hooray, Olivia Chow up in my old riding, finally. And she had the decency not to clap when George Galloway was at UofT.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 16:48 (twenty years ago)

As sad as I am about the Cons being in power, I won a bet for $20 on this election, so it's not all bad. Too bad that $20 is going to evaporate if Harper gets his fiscal way, down the road.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 04:05 (twenty years ago)

I finished second in our prediction pool at work. Everybody else thought the Tories would finish with over 130 seats. I was easily the closest on the Tories and Libs, but I lost because I thought the Bloc would clean up in Quebec (I predicted 60 seats). Also, the damn NDP got a favourable vote distribution this time and increased their seat totals by more than their national polling numbers might have suggested. Even if I'd pegged the Bloc and NDP at 59 and 21 seats (instead of 60 and 20) then I would have won.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 04:24 (twenty years ago)

Here's what I've been wondering: what's with the Conservative obsession with presenting Harper as a "man of the people"? Does the Conservative voter base really see him as a charismatic, down-to-earth guy (kinda like the way Republican voters think about George W. Bush)?

The Liberals are smart enough to not have Paul Martin in their commercials, since it's not like Martin is Captain Charisma or relatable in any way. He's spoken about but never seen.

-- MindInRewind (), December 14th, 2005 4:32 PM.

Hmmmm ... interesting looking back on some of our comments after the election is over. We now know that the Liberals decided they wouldn't bother campaigning too much until the New Year, and that Harper as "man of the people" ended up working. History should show that the announcement of the RCMP criminal probe was the backbreaker -- if you look at the polls over the course of the election, things were fairly stable up to that point, but immediately afterward there was a runaway train of Tory support. With a big lead in the polls, Harper had plenty of time to divert himself from discussing policy 100% of the time and start into "getting to know me" mode.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 06:13 (twenty years ago)

Odds are that the Bush administration will work with Harper to magically "solve" the softwood disagreement, as if they were just waiting for this.

peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 13:05 (twenty years ago)

History should show that the announcement of the RCMP criminal probe was the backbreaker -- if you look at the polls over the course of the election, things were fairly stable up to that point, but immediately afterward there was a runaway train of Tory support.

Yet Goodale cleaned up in his riding. Which I guess probably has as much to do with the other parties not fielding strong candidates to run against him as it does with his smarmy good looks and the fact that the "insinuations" were pretty bunk.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:27 (twenty years ago)


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