American Friends - Please explain!

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So many things I am sketchy on. Can you tell me exactly what these things are and provide pictures?

Thank you!

Candystriper

Soda Fountain

Freshman (new start at uni?)

Sorority Rush

There are others, they will come to me in time, and I'll ask.

Lalalalaladeda (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

"Homecoming"

"Debutante"

[jailhouse tattoo] (nordicskilla), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

Never heard of #1

#2 is sort of an old fashioned term: pharmacies used to have "soda-fountains" -- counters where you could get a soda, snack, maybe ice-cream. I guess it also refers to the machine that dispenses soda in a restaurant (when they're not from bottles or cans)

#3 is a college/university first year

#4 is a period for frats/sororities when you go around to the different orgs, check them out, get free pizza or whatver.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

Candy Striper is a volunteer who goes to hospitals and hangs out with infirm people. I'm not sure exactly what they do, but I think they're supposed to brighten the mood (and give hand jobs).

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 15 December 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

Oh how cute, has someone been reading Wholesome Stories for Girls, published ca 1962?

Candystripers: high school-age volunteers at hospitals who gave sponge baths and washed people's hair and generally ran errands for hosp staff, girls only (I think), wore white-and-red striped uniforms to distinguish them from actual nurses.

Soda fountain: the high school hangout, sometimes located in a drugstore, which served cherry cokes and lemon cokes and Boston Coolers and ice cream sodas etc etc delicious! Long diner-style countertop with stools affixed to floor, poss. also booth seating, young man behind counter would scoop ice cream and operate the soda taps to fill orders (official title for that job is "soda jerk").

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

Debutante:

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Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

xpost I WAS TOO THOROUGH

Candystriper = A kind of nurse, as of the mid-20th century -- I think they were young volunteers. Called "candy-stripers" because of candy-like stripes on the uniforms (think of a peppermint stick / candy cane). Usually employed as a joke synonym for "hot young nubile girlies," since they were young fresh new jolly innocent nurselets in titillating nurse outfits.

Soda Fountain = Also kind of mid-20th century. A bar/counter at which someone sells soda, floats, ice cream, etc. -- usually we think of them as attached to small-town drugstores, diners, or department stores. In a small mid-century US town, the soda fountain would be like a "bar" for teenagers, really -- the sort of place you might take your date to share a root beer float.

Freshman = First-year student at college/university OR in high school. Used for any four-year process, really, with the four years being designated Freshman, Sophomore, Junior, and Senior.

Sorority Rush = US college event. Basically a big ritual in which its decided what sororities (and also fraternities) freshmen will get into. Interested students of whatever year go to parties at sorority or fraternity houses, where they meet current members and are basically evaluated for possible membership. This goes on for like a week of parties and open-houses and general revelry, at the end of which there's some arcane system where people pick which fraternities/sororities they'd like to be in, and the houses themselves pick which people they'd like to admit, and somehow it all gets sorted out.

Pictures forthcoming.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

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sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

Thank you!

When someone has done you a service, you show them gratitude by saying "Thank you!"

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

i dont really get homecoming either. i know it involves a football game and a dance and its always in fall and theres a king and queen but who exactly is coming home? are the same teams played every year?

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

Homecoming is usually an annual school football game alumni are encouraged to attend. It can been a big deal in smaller towns, with associated parades and dances. Traditionally, a homecoming "king" and "queen" are nominated by the students.

detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

I plan on opening a soda fountain in brooklyn. title:

Seltzer's

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

"Homecoming"

It's a big high school football event (might be first or last home game?) There is usually a dance and a homecoming queen and king are picked to "represent" the school.

"Debutante"

This is a semi-antiquated term which used to refer to young relatively well-off ladies who had just entered "adult" society. They had their "debut" at coming out parties. FOr a while I think it generally came to mean young well-off women.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

candystriper - hot young broads you fuck in teh maintenance room
soda fountain - place where you take dates to smooze and then fuck later
freshman - hot pieces of ass that you party with and fuck
sorority rush - party where innocent girls drink too much and then look for guys to blow or fuck

fucko, Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

re: "Debutante"
American "Society" indeed still performs this ritual.

detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

Were you a homecoming king, Alex?

[jailhouse tattoo] (nordicskilla), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

My school didn't even have a football team, Adam.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

are the same teams played every year?

I think some schools may have a tradition where they play the same school every year, but this is not always the case. Typically, the various schools in the area will designate different Homecoming Weekends -- after all, not everyone can be the home team on the same day.

(might be first or last home game?)

I think it's usually in September or October -- so it's certainly possible it could be early enough to be the first home game, or late enough to be the last home game, but more than likely it's somewhere in the middle of the schedule.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

Homecoming = An event in fall, for both high schools and, in the past, universities. There's usually a home sporting event -- say, a big football game against a rival school -- and then a dance. It's called "homecoming" because it's imagined that alums and recent graduates will come back to the school for this big-day event. (There is a great Robert Benchley essay from like 1925 about going to this sort of game and being totally ignored by the current students.)

Debutante = A young lady who is being introduced to society. "Society" in this case meaning upper-crust "society," scare quotes and all, which I assume you in the UK already know well enough about. At some point in their teenage years, the daughters of society types will "debut" as, well, new women on the scene, I guess. This happens at a debutante ball, and it's kind of more a Victorian than an American notion.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

My school didn't even have a football team, Adam.

That's so sad. :'(

[jailhouse tattoo] (nordicskilla), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

Debutante: And now you also have celebutante. Paris Hilton is often referred to this or as a slut.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

you should read 'pledged' written by an undercover journalist who looked young enough to infiltrate the greek system, posing as a sorority member.

some of the fun stuff included:

dedicated house 'drug room' where a mountain of cocaine was usually out on the table

amusing aol 'away' messages

drunken sexual degradation at the hands of 'sisters'


i wanna be a sorority girl!

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

yeah, debutantes are alive and well though perhaps not quite as prevalent.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

I'm married to an ex-sorority girl.

[jailhouse tattoo] (nordicskilla), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

I was the homecoming queen's date one year. But she ignored me all night to flirt with some awkward puppy-dog freshman who was in band with her.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

"That's so sad. :'("

Not really.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

There was literally no room for me to put my plate of toast on the kitchen table this morning - damn cocaine mountain getting in the way again.

[jailhouse tattoo] (nordicskilla), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

so whats the difference between a cotillion and a debutante ball.

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

adam you need a room dedicated solely to your mountain of cocaine

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

I totally had no idea that homecoming had anything to do with football!

Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

The whole debutante coming-out process was originally a signal that the young miss in question was old enough to be on the marriage market, and in fact she would be expected to make a match during her coming-out season...also a public acknowledgement of transition from girlhood to womanhood: hair goes up, hemlines go down, you start having to make social calls and etc.

My impression is that it was orig a European thing that carried over here because well-off families in the New World might be scattered to their various estates & plantations for most of the year but debs and their chaperones would take apartments in the city center to be on hand for a season/year of social festivities so that the boyz & gurlz would be forced into close contact and wooing (or SOMEthing) would ensue. I used to know a girl from err...Baton Rouge? who actually DID come out as a deb (as did her older sister) and people around town actually REMEMBER what year each girl debuted in.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

I was the homecoming queen's date one year. But she ignored me all night to flirt with some awkward puppy-dog freshman who was in band with her.

a band girl was homecoming queen?? that doesnt sound right. has american television lied to me?

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

I'm actually kinda annoyed candystripers don't refer to people who work with candy.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

Is there a term for the prospective suitors of debutantes? Preferably as quaint and antiquated as possible.

[jailhouse tattoo] (nordicskilla), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

i was a candystriper in highschool!!!

POOP BITCH (Mandee), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

I think there's like Venn-diagram overlap between cotillions and deb balls? I dunno, up until a few years ago I still thought cotillions involved boats.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

I think the cotillion IS the debutante ball.

luna (luna.c), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

But a cotillion can also be a style of ball, I think? So you could have a deb-ball event that wasn't quite a cotillion, or a cotillion that didn't have any debs.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

Doesn't "homecoming" refer to coming "home" (i.e. school) after the summer vacation, and is usually held in early fall?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

i saw it on the o.c. season one

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

My mother was homecoming queen, my step-sisters are debutantes and my girlfriend was in a sorority. None of them talk about it much.

detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

a band girl was homecoming queen?? that doesnt sound right. has american television lied to me?

No, you're right to be skeptical, k. It was a bit of a coup. I think someone stuffed the ballot box. Actually, though, it was the first year that I could remember that a non-black girl was Homecoming Queen.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

(cotillion, that is)

xxpost

sunny successor (katharine), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

cotillion is basically a dancing/etiquette class (probably sponsored by the local junior league) that ends with a formal dance to show off how much of a lady/gentleman you are. kids usually start doing it from middle school age.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

Candy Strippers usually wear this under their attire.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

Doesn't "homecoming" refer to coming "home" (i.e. school) after the summer vacation, and is usually held in early fall?

I'm pretty sure it refers to alumni coming back to their alma mater, as stated above. My 5-year college reunion was held during Homecoming weekend.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

Is there a term for the prospective suitors of debutantes? Preferably as quaint and antiquated as possible.

Is this not where the term "Eligible Bachelor" arose?
Though "Beau" might fit with the frenchified "debutante".

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

I think we need Whit Stillman to explain the cotillion/debutante thing.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

cotillion
One entry found for cotillion.
Main Entry: co·til·lion
Pronunciation: kO-'til-y&n, k&-
Variant(s): also co·til·lon /kO-'til-y&n, k&-, ko-tE-(y)On/
Function: noun
Etymology: French cotillon, literally, petticoat, from Old French, from cote coat
1 : a ballroom dance for couples that resembles the quadrille
2 : an elaborate dance with frequent changing of partners carried out under the leadership of one couple at formal balls
3 : a formal ball

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 15 December 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

Please also explain:

Baby showers, Candied yams (sweet potato baked with marshmallows? and eaten with turkey? wtf?)

bham, Friday, 16 December 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)

do we not have baby showers here in the uk?

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 16 December 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)

Sort of, they used to be called..... something else. I cannae mind.

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Friday, 16 December 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

Baby showers

Friends, colleagues or family of expectant mummy invite people who bring presents? Something like that.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Friday, 16 December 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

yeah, presents for the baby. hence 'showering the baby' with presents. um sorry.

Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 16 December 2005 10:57 (twenty years ago)

Beef jerky?

Gravy?

Paul Revere?

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 16 December 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)

Beef Jerky is evil. It's like a dog treat.

Rumpie (lil drummer girl parumpumpumpu), Friday, 16 December 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

If there is not an album called Redneck Debutantes I will totally eat my hat.

White Trash Debutantes close enough for you?

j.lu (j.lu), Friday, 16 December 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

There are also bridal showers, same concept.

Beef jerky?

Strips of dried beef (or any meat actually)

Gravy?

creamy/saucy stuff that goes on top of meat and potatoes. bad for you.

Paul Revere?

Second track on the second side of first Beastie Boys album. oh wait. . .spy in the American Revolution who alerted the colonials that the British were coming.

Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Friday, 16 December 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

a lot of countries have beef jerky under a different name. it's biltong in south africa, for instance.

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 16 December 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

BILTONG? As in buttock-tongue? This just made my day.

Nathalie (stevie nixed), Friday, 16 December 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

Caveat: In some places (like Italian immigrant neighborhoods in Rhode Island), 'gravy' has to be specified by color.

"brown gravy" = beef/chicken/turkey gravy

"red gravy" (often, just "gravy") = marinara sauce

elmo (allocryptic), Friday, 16 December 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

Yay this is fun:

Baby shower = Event shortly before birth of child in which mother's female friends gather to bestow baby-related gifts and otherwise celebrate forthcoming baby.

Candied yams = Actually I think there's an actual difference between sweet potatoes and yams, the same sort of difference between white and yellow potatoes. Candied yams would be baked with a sweetish glazey thing, usually with cinnamon and a bit of marshmallow. They are sweet but not dessert-like.

Beef jerky = Strips of dried beef, chewy and yummy. Portable and good for snacking, making them popular for, e.g., hikers.

Gravy = Savory sauce, often made using meat drippings and thickened with flour. Spread atop meats and things like mashed potatoes.

Paul Revere = Boston silversmith and famed patriot who rode through the city alerting revolutionaries to the impending arrival of British forces. Revolutionary-hero status has made his silverwork quite valuable in the antique sense. (I wish I could make some kind of hilarious indie joke about how his silversmithing was pretty sub-par and why don't people appreciate the more obscure works of Jeremiah P Montrose, but I have this vague sense that he was actually a really good silversmith, too.)

nabiscothingy, Friday, 16 December 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

american friends, please explain:

- staind
- hot pockets
- kiwi in anything

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 December 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

why 'GOP'?

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 16 December 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

ok i know that, but why is it kind of, erm , institutionalised, like 'con.' or 'lab.'?

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 16 December 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

"grand old party"

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 December 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

i would guess the "old" part

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 December 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

but it's like on tv screens it says 'n dakota (GOP)', kind of slangy, isn't it? i like it, in a way.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 16 December 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

hot pockets are delicious pastry sleeves stuffed with cheese (or other goo) and some sort of meat-ish substance.

POOP BITCH (Mandee), Friday, 16 December 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

but WHY??

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 December 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

because they are quick and delicious portable meals

POOP BITCH (Mandee), Friday, 16 December 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

want me to explain sunny d or tang next?

POOP BITCH (Mandee), Friday, 16 December 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

-Staind -- Did that Beetlejuice song

-GOP - Grand Old Party - the nickname showed up in 1888:

Previously, the nickname had been used by Southern Democrats. After the Republicans won back the Presidency and Congress for the first time since the Grant administration, the Chicago Tribune proclaimed: "Let us be thankful that under the rule of the Grand Old Party ... these United States will resume the onward and upward march which the election of Grover Cleveland in 1884 partially arrested."

kingfish holiday travesty (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 16 December 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

explain these 8===D

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 December 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

sorry i'm in a bad mood

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 December 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

THANK U FOR UR DEFINITION

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 December 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

hot pockets:
Because the "wealth" of America is an illusion created by the puritanical obssesion with constant work, absent parents leave these heavily processed and easily prepared balls of stomach-filling non-nuitrients in their refrigerators to stave off their childrens existential feelings of emptiness living upon this cursed land.

detoxyDancer (sexyDancer), Friday, 16 December 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

junior league?

Anna (Anna), Friday, 16 December 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

Junior League: a women's communal organization, responsible for a disturbing tradition of compiling cookbooks from whatever recipes the members have sitting around from Great Aunt Violet. Esp uncomfortable because NONE of the women ever seems to have submitted a recipe under HER OWN NAME; instead they are all listed as "Mrs Joseph Glenn VanHouten" etc etc. At least in certain vintages of cookbook.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 16 December 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

aren't they quite a bit more "business woman" oriented these days?

kyle (akmonday), Friday, 16 December 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

junior league?

former debuatantes and soro chicks get together for fancy luncheons and community service.

Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Friday, 16 December 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

that's quite a bleak view on hot pockets, detoxydancer

POOP BITCH (Mandee), Friday, 16 December 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

i feel him tho

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 December 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

Maybe this would be a good place to mention that this English woman at work yesterday was complaining about something and said "bloody" and I thought from across the room that it would be funny to say "language!" without looking up from my paper or anything and ... she totally didn't find it funny. At all. She just stared at me.

nabiscothingy, Friday, 16 December 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

Is she totally humorless or was that just not as hilarious as I thought it was?

nabiscothingy, Friday, 16 December 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

i wonder

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Friday, 16 December 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

I think we had to be there Nabisco...

Anna (Anna), Friday, 16 December 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

junior league?

http://img.mtv3.fi/mn_kuvat/mtv3/ohjelmat/sinkkuelamaa/304973.jpg

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 16 December 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

In the wikipedia entry for Lou Grant it says this:

It is one of four shows in the history of American television to have weekly finishes of first and dead last during its run, the others being AfterMASH, Cheers, and fellow Mary Tyler Moore spinoff Rhoda

Please explain "weekly finishes of first and dead last during its run". Thanks.

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 08:50 (sixteen years ago)

ratings of tv shows as measured by the nielsen company are done on a weekly basis. so these shows had at least one week as the top rated show in the country, and during the lifetime of the show, at least one week where they came in absolute last.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nielsen_ratings

velko, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 09:02 (sixteen years ago)

for example, after mash debuted at #1 i think because of the great interest after the orig series ended, but it was clear to all after one viewing that the show sucked so it dropped like a stone in the ratings until it hit bottom and was canceled

cheers took a good 2 seasons to find an audience so it must have finished last in its first season and then made a steady climb to the top

velko, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 09:10 (sixteen years ago)

i'd bet lou grant finished last in its final season,some series stick around a season or two too long

velko, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 09:12 (sixteen years ago)

some shows also don't do well in reruns, esp. dramas. summer used to be filled with reruns until networks figured out to put cheapo reality-type shows in their place to boost ratings. so, a show might be a relative hit on its first airing but do poorly on rerun (sometimes only a couple of months later),the rerun would still count in the nielsen tallies

velko, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 09:15 (sixteen years ago)

velko are you a tv stats guy

had died in a balloon accident several years in a ballooning accident (dyao), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 09:16 (sixteen years ago)

lol misspent youth in front of tv

velko, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 09:19 (sixteen years ago)

good, i was hoping there would be a slothful explanation for this burst of expertise.

estela, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 09:25 (sixteen years ago)

; )

velko, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 09:29 (sixteen years ago)

Thanks for that.

Might edit the wiki so that it makes sense for people who aren't from the USA. Some mention of ratings for instance.

Ned Trifle (Notinmyname), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 11:36 (sixteen years ago)

am disappointed this thread isn't for people to explain why they have american friends.

;) good luck usa

ever dream some dude? (darraghmac), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 11:41 (sixteen years ago)


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