Any further explanation would be unnecessary.
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 18 December 2005 22:00 (twenty years ago)
― cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 18 December 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)
Dave Chappelle, I'm going to kill your family.
― Give me Sufjan or give me credibility (Matt Chesnut), Sunday, 18 December 2005 23:42 (twenty years ago)
― cutty (mcutt), Sunday, 18 December 2005 23:48 (twenty years ago)
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 19 December 2005 00:01 (twenty years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 19 December 2005 00:06 (twenty years ago)
― foxy boxer (stevie), Monday, 19 December 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)
-Al Sharpton managing to sneak into ANYONE'S house (and the idea that he'd do it himself!)
-Malcolm, Biggie, Tupac, "YOU'RE NEXT!"
-Whoopie Goldberg
-Oprah Winfrey personally coming into his bedroom at night with armed men and telling him "You know (Farrakhan) killed Malcolm"
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 19 December 2005 00:17 (twenty years ago)
This is my favourite bit as well.
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 19 December 2005 00:35 (twenty years ago)
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 19 December 2005 01:11 (twenty years ago)
― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 19 December 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)
http://www.dead-frog.com/archives/2005/12/chappelle_theory_conspiracy_as.php
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 19 December 2005 01:21 (twenty years ago)
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 19 December 2005 01:57 (twenty years ago)
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 05:25 (twenty years ago)
― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 05:27 (twenty years ago)
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 05:29 (twenty years ago)
Who are the blogsters?
― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 05:31 (twenty years ago)
― Give me Sufjan or give me credibility (Matt Chesnut), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 05:39 (twenty years ago)
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 05:39 (twenty years ago)
― msp (mspa), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 06:04 (twenty years ago)
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 06:09 (twenty years ago)
― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 07:07 (twenty years ago)
― Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 07:15 (twenty years ago)
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 07:18 (twenty years ago)
― howell huser (chaki), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 07:19 (twenty years ago)
― howell huser (chaki), Thursday, 29 December 2005 00:56 (twenty years ago)
― waldo jeffers scenario (haitch), Thursday, 29 December 2005 05:13 (twenty years ago)
The site now has a disclaimer that attributes the whole thing to a site called http://www.anti-social.com -- but I have no idea whether Charlie Murphy is involved in that site.
http://www.chappelletheory.com/disclaimer.html
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Thursday, 29 December 2005 06:34 (twenty years ago)
― howell huser (chaki), Thursday, 29 December 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)
― Masked Gazza, Monday, 13 March 2006 01:30 (twenty years ago)
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 13 March 2006 04:42 (twenty years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 March 2006 04:47 (twenty years ago)
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 13 March 2006 04:49 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 13 March 2006 05:30 (twenty years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 March 2006 05:31 (twenty years ago)
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 13 March 2006 05:33 (twenty years ago)
― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 March 2006 05:42 (twenty years ago)
Like Thelonious Monk, the genius-eccentric jazz musician whose music Chappelle plinks out on a Block Party piano, Chappelle aims for notes many of us can barely hear.
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 13 March 2006 05:47 (twenty years ago)
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 13 March 2006 05:48 (twenty years ago)
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:02 (twenty years ago)
http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/06/wrap_it_up_box.html
Guy makes working "Wrap It Up" box
― Don Homer (kingfish), Thursday, 10 June 2010 18:27 (sixteen years ago)
I am so sad that the original link is dead.
― breaking that little dog's heart chakra (Abbott), Thursday, 10 June 2010 18:35 (sixteen years ago)
Dave Chappelle didn't meltdown.
Chappelle’s Connecticut audience, made up of largely young White males, demanded a shuck and jive. Men who seemed to have missed the fine satire of the Chappelle show demanded he do characters who, out of the context of the show look more like more racist tropes, than mockery of America’s belief in them.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 30 August 2013 19:07 (twelve years ago)
Wait, people are saying Chappelle is to blame for what transpired? Damn, people are dumb.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 30 August 2013 19:13 (twelve years ago)
"shut up and play the hits," amirite
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Friday, 30 August 2013 19:19 (twelve years ago)
The thing is, Chappelle's live act has never ever been a recital of his tv show, or any shit from his movie roles, so this audience was off base no matter what.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 30 August 2013 19:25 (twelve years ago)
people r dum
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Friday, 30 August 2013 19:25 (twelve years ago)
damn people are terrible
― Nhex, Friday, 30 August 2013 19:29 (twelve years ago)
don't read the comments! (not that anyone needs a reminder)
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 30 August 2013 19:31 (twelve years ago)
to be clear, I'm 100% on Team Chappelle with this shit, but it's hard to think of many stand-ups who'd even be in the situation to have popular sketch bits yelled at them - most aren't famous for sketches and bits! Robin Williams only plays Lincoln Center type shit iirc, so we don't even know for sure if he'd get a "Nanu Nanu!" or "Mrs. Doubtfire!" from college students. Chris Rock, Dane Cook, George Lopez and Louis CK have done movies and TV, but they're way better known for stand-up than any specific character. Only one that immediately comes to mind of late is Michael Richards, and well...
― da croupier, Friday, 30 August 2013 19:50 (twelve years ago)
Seinfeld also only plays stages where he'd be treated as an eminence, I'm guessing
I love Chappelle, and I hate hecklers and people who do the "play the hits" routine, and I also don't know the full story of what transpired, because the only video I've seen seems to be from the later half of the set after he already went off script. But I still feel a little like "come on man, you're a professional stand-up comic, don't you have a better way of handling this by now?" And maybe he just doesn't want to be in that position anymore, and as a person, I totally respect him if he feels like he doesn't want that. But having people shout your famous lines at you IS part of standup, even if there are some racist contextual issues behind it all as well. You know, you want a different audience, write a book and do a book tour or something. That's the standup audience imo.
― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Friday, 30 August 2013 19:54 (twelve years ago)
ha, xp
Hecklers should be ejected
― waterface, Friday, 30 August 2013 19:55 (twelve years ago)
from Earth
Actually didn't Andy Kaufman used to get people shouting at him about his Latke character all the time?
― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Friday, 30 August 2013 19:55 (twelve years ago)
http://www.avclub.com/articles/last-night-dave-chappelles-show-was-overrun-by-hec,102309/
Most recently, Chappelle signed on to Funny Or Die’s Oddball Festival, a massive tour that would put Chappelle—who has struggled with crowd control even in smaller venues—in front of amphitheatres crammed with thousands of people, many of whom had been drinking all day. Yeah, so how’s that going?
― Your Own Personal El Guapo (kingfish), Friday, 30 August 2013 19:56 (twelve years ago)
i almost went to this...playing huge outdoor arenas is just asking 4 this bulshit. altho im also sure the crowd was indefensible. maybe the meadows can now be known for this and dmb riots, p good legacy
― johnny crunch, Friday, 30 August 2013 19:58 (twelve years ago)
funny or die is a dire institution in general imo
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 30 August 2013 19:59 (twelve years ago)
i get that he would want to play venues that are more casual than theaters while he's working out new material, but this just seems inevitable if he's playing festivals and colleges, idk.
― festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 30 August 2013 19:59 (twelve years ago)
Funny or Die is basically Walmart. You know you have to go there for something, but you want to leave as quickly as possible.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 30 August 2013 20:00 (twelve years ago)
Only one that immediately comes to mind of late is Michael Richards, and well...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kth0UOU5a_M
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 30 August 2013 20:05 (twelve years ago)
gets kinda funny once he starts reading the book but seems like he has no act & just thinks he can fill time like charlie sheen tried & failed to
― johnny crunch, Friday, 30 August 2013 20:09 (twelve years ago)
You know, you want a different audience, write a book and do a book tour or something. That's the standup audience imo.
so yr response to this incident is just... "very important for chappelle to do him job"? hmmmmmm
― your authentic guitar playing self (elmo argonaut), Friday, 30 August 2013 20:09 (twelve years ago)
um no
― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Friday, 30 August 2013 20:12 (twelve years ago)
Toby in her office at Pendant.]
(Jerry pokes his head in the door.)
JERRY: Hey, nice shoes. What, you wear sandals to work? It's always nice to walk into a room and get the aroma of feet. That's real conducive to the work atmosphere. I'm sure your co-workers really appreciate it. 'Hey, let's go eat in Toby's office. Great idea! We can check on her bunions!'
TOBY: You know, I have work to do here! I'm very busy!
JERRY: Oh, is this disruptive? You find it hard to work with someone...interrupting?
― waterface, Friday, 30 August 2013 20:18 (twelve years ago)
hurting what is "the standup audience" that routinely heckles headlining comics because idek wtf you're referring to
― your authentic guitar playing self (elmo argonaut), Friday, 30 August 2013 20:23 (twelve years ago)
actually on Robin Williams' first standup LP you can hear him telling the yellers "I ain't doin' the Mork."
― Miss Arlington twirls for the Coal Heavers (Dr Morbius), Friday, 30 August 2013 20:25 (twelve years ago)
I am curious as to whether Chappelle feels entitled to a level of comfort that most stand-ups wouldn't dream of.
― Fais ce que voudra, occiderai de même (Michael White), Friday, 30 August 2013 20:28 (twelve years ago)
I've worked with Robin (on god-awful films, tbf) and he is lethally capapble of shooting down dissent, mostly by keeping the crowd on his side.
― Fais ce que voudra, occiderai de même (Michael White), Friday, 30 August 2013 20:30 (twelve years ago)
Doesn't seem that way
― waterface, Friday, 30 August 2013 20:30 (twelve years ago)
I mean about Chapelle
seems to me if you can't handle hecklers you shouldn't be doing standup
which is I guess the same conclusion Dave came to
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 August 2013 20:34 (twelve years ago)
damn dave chappelle is really buff now
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 30 August 2013 20:35 (twelve years ago)
xp Right, and it was a conclusion I felt very sympathetic to at the time of his first quit. Like I think standup is something most sane people could not handle or would not want to handle doing. Anyway, I hope maybe this is just a onetime thing and maybe also a bad booking (i.e. the wrong kind of audience for him, drunken festival crowd etc.).
― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Friday, 30 August 2013 20:36 (twelve years ago)
And that's not to say there isn't racism in the reduction of him to his "I'm Rick James, Bitch!" schtick by some of his audience. I just think there's more going on here than "white people just want him to shuck and jive."
― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Friday, 30 August 2013 20:38 (twelve years ago)
he should just do HBO specials. or something.
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 August 2013 20:38 (twelve years ago)
A friend of mine, a big fan of his, sees him every time he's in town (surprisingly often) and she says he's kind of distant from the crowd, tends to be late, tends to be long winded. She still loves seeing him but she feels there's something off.
― Fais ce que voudra, occiderai de même (Michael White), Friday, 30 August 2013 20:39 (twelve years ago)
that 'kramer' clip is so great
― festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 30 August 2013 20:46 (twelve years ago)
can't speak for all performers but 1) this is not a "meltdown," it's a response to an environment where Chapelle set foot onstage and heard/felt the crowd and went "oh Christ...no amount of money is worth this" and it just went where he knew it was gonna go from there and 2) I'm fucking cheering for his set. performance isn't about winning over a shitty crowd, there's a certain level of effort you can choose to put in if you want when you have a too-drunk/too-clueless crowd (especially at a festival) but there's always that part of you that's thinking "wow, I could really probably make something cool happen here if you'd just ramp it down some" and what Chapelle did was basically what many performers who took festival gigs and found themselves running through paces instead of saying "wow, you guys make performing less fun" have actively wished they could do
you fuckin' go, Dave C
otm
― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Friday, 30 August 2013 20:51 (twelve years ago)
yeah I love the kramer clip. also think the joke he made about wanting to call Paula Deen and ask her to be his personal chef was good
― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Friday, 30 August 2013 20:53 (twelve years ago)
from the Ebony clip doesn't seem like much of a "meltdown" to me. he just stopped giving a fuck onstage. can't say I blame him. I've certainly seen bands do the same thing.
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:04 (twelve years ago)
yeah I wouldn't really call it a meltdown either. where did the "meltdown" thing originate?
― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:04 (twelve years ago)
Yeah, people/writers calling it a meltdown have no knowledge of Chappelle or comedy, basically.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:05 (twelve years ago)
xp BORAX-I
― crüt, Friday, 30 August 2013 21:05 (twelve years ago)
I only consider it a meltdown if someone is crying or having a screaming match with the audience or taking their clothes off in a drugged-out daze etc
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:06 (twelve years ago)
I hjust tatooe'd that combination hair post onto my face
― waterface, Friday, 30 August 2013 21:08 (twelve years ago)
If anything, Chappelle was dealing with a situation like a calm and rational adult person.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:08 (twelve years ago)
Didn't Andy Kaufman ready The Great Gatsby once or smth
― space is deep (mh), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:31 (twelve years ago)
For most of Kaufman's career, his whole objective was seeing how much an audience would take, and then rocketing past that threshold.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:32 (twelve years ago)
I thought he did the Great Gatsby thing more than once, and really did do it until the last person in the room left.
Also, I've seen chappelle live, and his show really is _that_ loose. It'll go on for 3+ hours. He called out a guy in the front row who he thought was filming the show, saw that the guy just had a regular digital camera, and then proceeded to go thru the guy's stored photos on stage.
― Your Own Personal El Guapo (kingfish), Friday, 30 August 2013 22:46 (twelve years ago)
that sounds horrible, lol
― Nhex, Friday, 30 August 2013 23:58 (twelve years ago)
wow love that kramer bit, chappelle is a good dude
― k3vin k., Saturday, 31 August 2013 00:08 (twelve years ago)
Everything went fine in Pittsburgh last night.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:15 (twelve years ago)