hey, President Bush, way to interrupt Family Guy.

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this fucking sucks!

JD from CDepot, Monday, 19 December 2005 02:13 (twenty years ago)

zzzzz

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Monday, 19 December 2005 02:14 (twenty years ago)

does he really think anyone will change their minds on this?

JD from CDepot, Monday, 19 December 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

does he think that no one notices he gives the same fucking speech every time?

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Monday, 19 December 2005 02:16 (twenty years ago)

liar lie lie lie liar lie lie lie tell me why tell me why tell me why you have to lie.

D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Monday, 19 December 2005 02:17 (twenty years ago)

It's just Family Guy.

Obsessing over the unobtainable and nonexistent. (Leee), Monday, 19 December 2005 02:17 (twenty years ago)

He's on every fucking channel

ARRGH

At least MSNBC will have Olbermann on to complain about it.

dar1a g (daria g), Monday, 19 December 2005 02:18 (twenty years ago)

sometimes i am listening and i hope just this once he will say, "some people think we are losing the war on terror, and they're right, that's why we're pulling out of iraq! WOOOOOOOOOO!"

ok leeeeeeee otm, but still

caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Monday, 19 December 2005 02:18 (twenty years ago)

over, finally

JD from CDepot, Monday, 19 December 2005 02:19 (twenty years ago)

and they are gonna play family guy from the beginning! a christmas miracle.

JD from CDepot, Monday, 19 December 2005 02:19 (twenty years ago)

I haven't turnewd on the television all day, but let me see if I can summarize:

"My fellow Americans, I come here to bring you the jaw-dropping news that your Iraqi wards have risked evisceration and immediate eternal damnation in hell for being Musselmen, in order to swarm to the polls in numbers even greater than those of you who voted to re-elect me. This is fucking fantastic. It proves I am right, Dicky -Boy is right and Connie and Brainiac and all the White House Gang who owe me their jobs. I've always been right about this from the start, which is why you must follow me in never taking the coward's way out and abandoning our little brown brothers and sisters in Iraq.

"You may have heard that I secretly signed an order for my spies to spy on you and other US citizens. You shouldn't believe a word of this nonsense. I only authorized my spies to spy on terrorists, Quakers and cowards who would have us cut-and-run from Iraq."

"P.S. We do not 'torture' our detainees. We have allies for that. Thank you and mat God Bless America."

Was I close?

Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 19 December 2005 03:33 (twenty years ago)

thank fucking god i'm in pacific time.

nein Socken (nein Socken), Monday, 19 December 2005 03:38 (twenty years ago)

Bush's speech was funnier than Family Guy.

brg30 (brg30), Monday, 19 December 2005 04:26 (twenty years ago)

funny like a taser to the nuts

latebloomer: Deutsch Bag (latebloomer), Monday, 19 December 2005 04:38 (twenty years ago)

If this were an episode of "Family Guy", we'd jumpcut into a scene of a guy getting a taser to his nuts, and he'd be all "Oh, this is so funny!"

Because that's what goes for comedy on "family guy".

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Monday, 19 December 2005 06:04 (twenty years ago)

In related news, I still fuckin' hate that stupid goddamn show. WHY WON'T IT DIE?!?!???!!!??!!!??

Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 19 December 2005 06:06 (twenty years ago)

yeah, it blows.

gear (gear), Monday, 19 December 2005 07:21 (twenty years ago)

tonights was pretty ok

howell huser (chaki), Monday, 19 December 2005 07:23 (twenty years ago)

he's just decided that he better start spin doctoring now on the idea that he like Nixon has taken the law into his own hands, ignored it and taped people without a search warrant which is illegal, commander in chief or not and he is doing his best to try adn tell us that it was necessary to protect the homeland from terrorists and countries with WMD that never did turn up. Anyone think we may have another Nixon sized scandal in the making with this idiot?

Wiggy (Wiggy), Monday, 19 December 2005 08:53 (twenty years ago)

I'm just pleased to find some sane people who realize that Family Guy blows. Seriously, the show's got the worst sense of timing, draaaaawwing out lame jokes to the point where even good ones would start to suck.

regular roundups (Dave M), Monday, 19 December 2005 08:58 (twenty years ago)

This one's going out to Pleasant Plains:
http://www.collectorscum.com/8tracks/clash_rope.jpg

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Monday, 19 December 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

Awesomely stupid hands gesture right at the start. "Good evening, this is the length of the thread America is hanging by."

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 December 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

Yes, we should have another thread where we argue about why a pop culture bit thought funny by some ilxors is disliked by others.

it's the only way.

kingfish holiday travesty (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 19 December 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

Do any of you guys (our American brethren, that is) think that this may prompt the Democrats to get their arses in gear and get the bastard impeached?

Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

it's just a tv show, dude.

u saved me (dubplatestyle), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

Do any of you guys (our American brethren, that is) think that this may prompt the Democrats to get their arses in gear and get the bastard impeached?

only the ruling party can bring about articles of impeachment, etc. I do wish those who blow lots of energy on this particular crusade would realize that their efforts would be better focused on getting certain folks voted the fuck out of office in 11 months.

kingfish holiday travesty (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

do you really think ppl who "blow lots of energy" going for impeachment dont actually vote? besides drunk shit-talking hippies

$#@!!, Monday, 19 December 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

Let's just say that I think their energy could be better directed.

kingfish holiday travesty (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

how much energy does voting take? do you go in the booth and paste up cut-outs from slacktavist or randomly bold portions of the ballot?

$#@!!, Monday, 19 December 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

i live in oregon. we just enclose blog posts in the ballot return envelope.

kingfish holiday travesty (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

pleasant plains loves family guy

sunny successor (katharine), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

haha!

$#@!!, Monday, 19 December 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

economists don't vote:


Don't Vote
It makes more sense to play the lottery.
By Steven E. Landsburg
Posted Wednesday, Sept. 29, 2004, at 11:58 AM ET

Illustration by Robert Neubecker
We might be headed for another close election, which means your vote could really matter this time, right? Wrong. Your vote didn't matter in 2000, it never mattered before 2000, and it's very unlikely to start mattering now.

Last time around, everything came down to Florida, where Bush's official margin was 537 votes. (Yes, yes, I know, if they'd been counted differently there'd have been a different margin and perhaps a different outcome. But that's not what this column is about.) If any one of Florida's 6 million voters had stayed home, Bush's margin would have been 536 or 538 votes, and he'd still have won. Even if you voted in the most hotly disputed state in the mostly hotly disputed election in American history, your vote did not change the outcome.

Your individual vote will never matter unless the election in your state is within one vote of a dead-even tie. (And even then, it will matter only if your state tips the balance in the electoral college.) What are the odds of that? Well, let's suppose you live in Florida and that Florida's 6 million voters are statistically evenly divided—meaning that each of them has (as far as you know) exactly a 50/50 chance of voting for either Bush or Kerry—the statistical equivalent of a coin toss. Then the probability you'll break a tie is equal to the probability that exactly 3 million out of 6 million tosses will turn up heads. That's about 1 in 3,100—roughly the same as the probability you'll be murdered by your mother.

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And that's surely a gross overestimate of your influence, because it assumes there's no bias at all in your neighbors' preferences. Even a slight change in that assumption leads to a dramatic change in the conclusion. If Kerry (or Bush) has just a slight edge, so that each of your fellow voters has a 51 percent likelihood of voting for him, then your chance of casting the tiebreaker is about one in 10 to the 1,046th power—approximately the same chance you have of winning the Powerball jackpot 128 times in a row.

For those of us who live in New York State, the situation is far worse. Last time around, about 6.5 million votes were cast for major party candidates in New York state and 63 percent of them went to Al Gore. Assuming an electorate of similar size with a similar bias, my chance of casting the deciding vote in New York is about one in 10 to the 200,708th power. I have a better chance of winning the Powerball jackpot 7,400 times in a row than of affecting the election's outcome. Which makes it pretty hard to see why I should vote.

The traditional reply begins with the phrase "But if everyone thought like that ... ." To which the correct rejoinder is: So what? Everyone doesn't think like that. They continue to vote by the millions and tens of millions.

Even for the most passionate partisan, it's hard to argue that voting is a good use of your time. Instead of waiting in line to vote, you could wait in line to buy a lottery ticket, hoping to win $100 million and use it to advance your causes—and all with an almost indescribably greater chance of success than you'd have in the voting booth.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

economists see voting as a purely social function. like making sure your grass isn't too high in your yard and mowing it regularly so that your neighbors don't frown out at you.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 19 December 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

i make an effort to catch family guy and i'm not proud of that. what troubles me more is that i'm starting to love american dad.

this is the first time i've mentioned my love affair with fox sunday. don't hate me.

nein Socken (nein Socken), Monday, 19 December 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

nothing to be ashamed of dude, unless you tape "The War At Home" or something.

JD from CDepot, Monday, 19 December 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

Steven E. Landsburg is full on eedjit.

It is true enough that in a nationwide election for president of the USA that any particular vote is without decisive influence. But there is a lot wrong with his analysis. For one thing, presidential elections are highly anomalous.

First, it is the only nationwide elective office (unless you count vice-president). All other elections are in much smaller jurisdictions. Next, the presidential election is mediated by the electoral college, making it by design the most insulated office from democratic influences. So, Landsberg chose the least representative election to base his argument on.

Also, in a democracy single votes should not be decisive. Allowing one person's judgement to decide is anti-democratic. Voting is designed not as a determinative exercise by any one individual, but as a mechanism in the aggregate. But it is also an indispensible feedback mechanism and it performs a function of prior restraint on politicians, who know they must attract enough votes to be re-elected.

Finally, elections are not about so many free-floating particles who do nothing but vote and go home. The individual voters, as Landsberg has sussed, are the least important actors in an election. Elections are about forming coalitions that can add up to aggregate majorities. If you want to influence elections, you have to do a lot more than vote; you have to volunteer time and money to aid in creating and growing those coalitions. Votes are the smallest particle of that equation, but absolutely indispensible to it.

Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 19 December 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

In related news, I still fuckin' hate that stupid goddamn show. WHY WON'T IT DIE?!?!???!!!??!!!??

I absolutely used to feel this way and then I don't what happened but I just started getting it. Now I love it. And American Dad's pretty good.

I also love Fox Sundays but that's life when you don't have cable.

Miss Misery xox (MissMiseryTX), Monday, 19 December 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

As they say, when you're unhappy, it's time to adjust your standards.

Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 19 December 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

same thing here, couldnt stand it back in h.s. but since it returned i laugh my ass off at like every joke, american dad is good too but mostly just for the paul lynde alien

$#@!!, Monday, 19 December 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

family guy's actually a lot better than it used to be. still rather uneven, though.

latebloomer: Deutsch Bag (latebloomer), Monday, 19 December 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

roger is the best.

nein Socken (nein Socken), Monday, 19 December 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

Personally, I don't watch family Guy. However, given the choice of Family Guy v. Bush - I'll take family guy every time.

Wiggy (Wiggy), Monday, 19 December 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

he's much more charming.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 19 December 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

I didn't see this, but all the photos look ridiculous. I would never watch Family Guy.

youn, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 03:17 (twenty years ago)

Bush is a family guy. What I've heard about Jess's hair, however, is very anti-family. Rainbow Faux-Hawk? True? If so, you saved me for sure.

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 04:21 (twenty years ago)

That last post makes no sense. I apologize and will commence listening to an unending tape of Family Guy Peter's laugh.

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 04:24 (twenty years ago)

i thought that was another inside ilxor joke that went right over my head.

nein Socken (nein Socken), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 04:25 (twenty years ago)

I think I was going for that, 'cause there was a mention of the hair on another thread, but I thought I should probably just stop frontin'.

regular roundups (Dave M), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 05:02 (twenty years ago)

thirteen years pass...

Hi Who do uou think should be president?

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