Mel Gibson's APOCALYPTO!

i think it looks pretty cool!

*If not, it will come back on the air just to make a stupid pun.

There is wisdom here.

Does it really surprise you that this would be Mel Gibson's idea of a Hannukah movie?

Screencap and post it, you know you want to.

if he had pulled this trick with the jesus trailer it might have actually been funny

I kinda hope he narrates the movie that way.

"Hi y'all! *spits* I just wanted to tell yew about a story I heard one day when hanging around with extras from "The Wild Boys" video."

His last film, The Passion of the Christ, was spoken entirely in the dead languages of Latin and Aramaic. Now Mel Gibson will appear in a brief spot on this Sunday’s Oscar broadcast speaking another exotic tongue: Maya.

Not since Michael Caine accepted his Oscar from the set of Jaws: The Revenge!

And the obvious care that has been taken with costumes, sets and the dialect-correct language suggests the kind of cultural attention filmdom has rarely if ever accorded the Mayas, who were the Greeks of the New World.

That last phrase is provided, then resolutely unexplained.

http://www.stfrancis.edu/en/marzec/loq01/mb1.jpg

Mayans: Chocolate

WTF????????

Apocalypto the Superdog!

http://blackzarak.co.uk/adi/upload/upload_files/apocalypto.jpg

http://apocalyptowatch.blogspot.com/

Does the chap in the background play autoharp in this film?

i had an argument about apocalypto at a party with a bunch of drunk classical archaeologists a few days ago. we had to go find a mesoamericanist to answer our questions about human sacrifice. however if he made a movie about vikings i could be THE party expert! ("period drama about viking culture" hahaha)

So what's happening is

Mel Gibson's RAGNAROK!

are they gonna be talking Viking in this?

could have lost most of the first 45 minutes, but the prisoner march onwards this was a thrill!

I still have not seen this, but it sounds great.

I know it has been said before, but it is great the way every Mel Gibson film ends with main character being sadistically killed.

ya it was a bit shocking in "what women want" tho

haha, i like how all his great films are really just 2 hour chase sequences: mad max 2, apocalypto, passion of the christ

is this worth watching on bbc2 at 10, y or n?

yes

most definitely. V-Day counterprogramming (people literally have their hearts cut out!).

so why is it COUNTER programming then

lollllll @ passion of the christ being a 2 hour chase sequence

I do think it's funny how so many of Mel Gibson's flicks feature him as the (literally) tortured protagonist and then, when he gets a little too old to play the role, he moves behind the camera and hires proxy tortured protagonists. Sort of like Woody Allen and his own alter-ego leads.

Anyway, as a Mayan "First Blood" this wasn't bad.

a thousand times yes, sam

uel

lol

and so i will.

was thinking of starting a bullshit free rolling 'should i watch this film y or n' thread but then realised that no ilx film thread would ever be bullshit free.

wait so this movie is actually just peen joeks?

that sets the tone. think of the opening as an amouz bouche.

on iplayer for the next week, uk people!

watched it last night, pretty great IMO, if gory. Mel Gibson is obv. a weird guy, but this kind of suited the batshit craziness of this. I'm sure this has been said upthread already, but it reminded me of Aguirre quite a lot.

they are both movies set in the jungle, yes

sorry if that came across as snarky. wasn't meant that way.

Similar aesthetics, I thought. Obviously they are stories told from very different perspectives. It's more an atmosphere thing I suppose, and I did also think of Aronofsky's The Fountain too, so it may well be just a matter of them all being set in the jungle!

this movie kind of reminds me of "george of the jungle" for some reason - similar vibe i guess?

Very much reminded me of Avatar.

was v. surprised about how this turned into a tarzan remake w/ added peen joeks.

xp George of the Jungle didn't feature conquistadors though did it. Maybe they're in the director's cut?

george was a conquistador gone native iirc

Predator vs. Aguirre

My money would be on Klaus Kinski.

lollllll @ passion of the christ being a 2 hour chase sequence

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:22 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark

picturing roman soldiers (very slowly) chasing a (very slowly moving) staggering jesus dragging his cross

In casting, it was important to Mel Gibson that he and Farhad Safinia find actors that matched the archetype each character represented. For instance, Rudy Youngblood struck Gibson as fitting the mythic archetype of a hero. Gibson saw that as necessary to allow people to identify with the film, since the movie's context is unfamiliar to most viewers, being in a foreign language and concerning an indigenous culture in the 16th century.

21st century physiognomy

This was really good, cant think of much else like it; Bang Rajan (haven't seen it) from Thailand had a sort of similar look.
Kinda wish it was released this year to see what kind of noise that would have made. I heard Youngblood did all his own stunts!

Yes, the costumes were great.

Oh yeah, I never came back to this thread to say that I saw this and thought it ruled after pre-hating based on the trailer

I think about the waterfall scene whenever I'm at the urinal and can't immediately pee.

it's a bit bombastic and heavy handed, but way way better than you could expect a fucking Mel Gibson movie to be.

Such a batshit piece of filmmaking but it still rules.

I only saw it the once but thought it was pretty solid and ambitious and, more than most movies, tbh, memorable.

Thoughts on representation? I thought of the way some have criticized Jodorowsky, Gilliam, George Miller, Herzog and Todd Browning for ruining a sympathetic portrayal with a sort of freak show gaze.

Two actors won Imagen awards (latino positive representation awards) and the film was nominated.

Iirc whatever elements of that that exist in this are negated by the very last shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5pBZKj1VnA

Apocalypto rules
I watched it at Catsupppp Dude’s apartment for those into ilx trivia

omg, 25 minutes of a guy pointing out stuff like a tapir wheezes more than it shrieks.

don't tell me, a solar eclipse didn't really occur the day before conquistadors landed on the shore.

Wild how this movie is actually good enough to make people overlook Mel Gibson's involvement

It’s about time somebody went on YouTube to point out the inaccuracies in movies, guy is a hero

everytime this thread gets bumped i misread it as mel brooks

Yeah I wanted to hate this too but I thought it was amazing despite probably being historically inaccurate (if you go to chichen itza they spent a lot of time complaining about this film). I still hate Mel Gibson though.

It’s about time somebody went on YouTube to point out the inaccuracies in movies, guy is a hero

Seems kind of relevant given "thoughts on representation?" and a film made by a right-wing psycho trying to appear so accurate it's shot in a language most Americans don't know exists?

Do you though, bro, do you.

yeah imo the critiques of this adventure movie in that dudes shrill 25min YouTube video are not quite as trenchant as he thinks they are, what can I say

if you go to chichen itza they spent a lot of time complaining about this film

― akm, Saturday, September 7, 2019 2:41 AM

To my shame, Scotland fucking loves Braveheart and takes it as fact. Or have we moved on from that?

The History Buffs guy has an annoying ranty "oh my god!" style but I liked and subscribed because I appreciate what he's doing generally.
In the case of Apocalypto, I'm skeptical of how sure he is of the lifestyle, clothes and architecture (couldn't there have been more variety?) and we aren't told for sure that when we see the Spanish arriving is their true first contact.

Then I watched the Braveheart video and I have heard most of the facts in there. Some speculations I didn't see in this video was that William Wallace killed lots of English civilians and might have spoken French a great deal of the time because Scottish nobles were apparently immersed in French culture (but I'm not a historian and my memory might not serve me well).

I like the idea of a more accurate Braveheart remake in which William Wallace (maybe) speaks French most of the time, (maybe) kills innocent civilians and gets a much more brutal death. But there perhaps aren't enough facts to make such a film unless it's a cinema documentary narrated by Ewan McGregor or Limmy.

And... I fear that today, any evils perpetrated by William Wallace would be defended by some of the audience. What if there were films about accurately brutal colonial history and massacre of native americans and it inspired nationalists and helped radicalize ordinary patriotic conservatives because they might feel a need to defend the atrocities?