So, female ILXors: did sugar plum fairies float your boat when you were eight, or did you prefer to be out and about getting your knees muddy and eating worms?
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Friday, 30 December 2005 07:59 (twenty years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 30 December 2005 08:03 (twenty years ago)
― Hello Sunshine (Hello Sunshine), Friday, 30 December 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 30 December 2005 08:06 (twenty years ago)
― youn, Friday, 30 December 2005 08:18 (twenty years ago)
― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Friday, 30 December 2005 10:15 (twenty years ago)
― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 30 December 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)
Then I grew up.
― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 30 December 2005 10:44 (twenty years ago)
― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Friday, 30 December 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)
― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Friday, 30 December 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)
― Anna (Anna), Friday, 30 December 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)
― born-again christians in the old corral (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 30 December 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)
Why do boys think these are mutually exclusive concepts?
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 30 December 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)
― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Friday, 30 December 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 30 December 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)
― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Friday, 30 December 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 30 December 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)
― Jimmy Mod Is The Damnation (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 30 December 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)
― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Friday, 30 December 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)
― Anna (Anna), Friday, 30 December 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 30 December 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)
All of them?
― StanM (StanM), Friday, 30 December 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)
― Anna (Anna), Friday, 30 December 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 30 December 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)
You're almost certainly not the only one. But I'd suspect that you and those others are vastly outnumbered by those girls who did not want to be all those things simultaneously.
― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Friday, 30 December 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 30 December 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)
― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Friday, 30 December 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 30 December 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)
I also wanted to be a princess, and change my name to something glamorous like Clarissa or Lucinda. I did, for a while, use my middle name (Jane) hyphenated onto my first name to make me have a double-barrelled first name because that seemed more princessly. Then I altered the spelling to Jayne because that seemed more classy still.
Yet I still climbed trees and played football and paddled about in streams collecting wee fish and tadpoles and things.
The ballet thing was out the window when I realised I was a gangling big-boned freak with no co-ordination at all, and the pony thing when I realised it cost lots of money. However my cousin had a pony so I lived my Thelwell dreams vicariously through her.
xpost again - how can you possibly think this? What on earth is your evidence?
― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 30 December 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)
It's not that I dislike girly-girls - some of my best friends have been very,very girly - it's just that they irritate me somehow for reasons I can't quite put my finger on.
― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Friday, 30 December 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)
*raises middle finger at you*
It's good to be back.
― Jimmy Mod Is The Damnation (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 30 December 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)
xpost - eh?
― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 30 December 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)
-- ailsa (ailsa_watson7...), December 30th, 2005. (later)
Why? Just because there's one, not especially important, thing about some of the people I otherwise like that irritates me; that's not going to preclude me from being their friend. I don't expect my friends (or anyone else) to be perfect.
If you'd read what I said carefully you'd have seen the word "usually"; which I took to imply that, whilst I meant my statement to apply to a majority, it didn't apply to all.
Both you and I are speaking from personal experience; but as every woman you've ever known thought exactly the same way you did as a child; I can't (and to your mind, shouldn't; as your experience is obviously far more valid than mine) argue the point as the fact my experience of most of the women I've ever known telling me they did not think that way as children should have no bearing on how I think on the issue.
― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Friday, 30 December 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)
― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Friday, 30 December 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)
Of course your opinion would be based on your experience, but you have me, Ally, Anna, etc telling you otherwise, so isn't it just possible that it's not as usual as you previously thought?
Also, I was joking about your friends. Hence intended-to-be-chirpy exclamation mark... :)
― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 30 December 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 30 December 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)
Or maybe I should bow to the tyranny of the masses.
― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Friday, 30 December 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)
(Also, haha "metropolitan", my childhood was spent in the Highlands of Scotland - you're at it again with the ridiculous generalisations!)
― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 30 December 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 30 December 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 30 December 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)
― Anna (Anna), Friday, 30 December 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)
― luna (luna.c), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)
― Anna (Anna), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)
― Jimmy Mod Is The Damnation (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)
i wanted to be a figure skater!
― POOP BITCH (Mandee), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)
― Je4nn3 ƒur¥ (Je4nne Fury), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)
AN "IF" FOR GIRLS
Elizabeth Lincoln Otis (with apologies to Mr. Rudyard Kipling)
If you can dress to make yourself attractive, Yet not make puffs and curls your chief delight; If you can swim and row, be strong and active, But of the gentler graces lose not sight; If you can dance without a craze for dancing, Play without giving play too strong a hold, Enjoy the love of friends without romancing, Care for the weak, the friendless and the old;
If you can master French and Greek and Latin, And not acquire as well, a priggish mien; If you can feel the touch of silk and satin Without despising calico and jean; If you can ply a saw and use a hammer, Can do a man's work when the need occurs, Can sing, when asked, without excuse or stammer, Can rise above unfriendly snubs and slurs;
If you can make good bread as well as fudges, Can sew with skill, and have an eye for dust; If you can be a friend and hold no grudges, A girl whom all will love because they must;
If sometime you should meet and love another And make a home with faith and peace enshrined And you its soul -- a loyal wife and mother -- You'll work out pretty nearly to my mind The plan that's been developed through the ages, And win the best that life can have in store. You'll be, my girl, a model for the sages -- A woman whom the world will bow before.
Yes, large sections of it are complete tripe. I refuse to apologize -- it's one of those childhood things that I swallowed whole and can never quite disentangle myself from.
― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 30 December 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 30 December 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)
― ShawShank Rambo Connection (Carey), Friday, 30 December 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)
I, uh, had a really low attention span.
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 30 December 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)
― POOP BITCH (Mandee), Friday, 30 December 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 30 December 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Friday, 30 December 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)
Though I did want a pony. I was the only girl in sixth grade who didn't have one. Boo hoo hoo.
― ALL YOUR BASE NOW BELONG TO SYCORAX!!! (kate), Friday, 30 December 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)
For the record I don't think I ever wanted to be a ballerina per se; when it was my turn to do the dinner dishes I usually spent most of the time swooping around the kitchen to Gershwin songs instead of actually washing up but that was more "interpretive ballroom" than anything. Mostly I wanted to be an Amazon and/or Wonder Woman.
― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 30 December 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)
― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Friday, 30 December 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)
I did always want a horse, though. Not a pony, a horse.
― Hey Jude, Monday, 2 January 2006 06:10 (twenty years ago)
― She's been known to sleep on piles of dry leaves... (papa november), Monday, 2 January 2006 08:59 (twenty years ago)
I wanted a HORSE not a pony. My dad had a horse from 10-14 and did his afternoon paper route on horseback. I also wanted to be Wonder Woman and made the magic bracelets by drawing with Sharpies on white styrofoam cups with the bottoms cut out: instant Amazon bracelets.
― suzy (suzy), Monday, 2 January 2006 18:39 (twenty years ago)
I also wanted to be tripitaka from Monkey.
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 2 January 2006 23:19 (twenty years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 2 January 2006 23:20 (twenty years ago)
I think ballerina was on my list, but it was somewhere below astronaut, jump jockey, elf warrior, test pilot, architect (award-winning, obv), rock star, Princess Leia, pirate, and nobel scientist.
And it is totally in line with the mud / worms / scabby knees thing.
― Zora (Zora), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 00:35 (twenty years ago)
― gem (trisk), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 00:44 (twenty years ago)
― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 00:56 (twenty years ago)
― Wiggy (Wiggy), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 03:57 (twenty years ago)
― Maria :D (Maria D.), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 04:05 (twenty years ago)
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 13:58 (twenty years ago)
― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 14:04 (twenty years ago)
From my About the Author in the Smoky Scribble from when I was six: "Emily likes to play war and wants to be a ballerina."
― Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 14:19 (twenty years ago)
I had ideas to do ballet in my early 20s just because I like the idea of the stretching and I need some serious grace because I trip over nothing. I did yoga instead.
Also, I can't help but notice ballerinas walk like ducks.
― sunny successor (katharine), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 14:26 (twenty years ago)
Hey, generalisations-a-go-go again! Girls be stupid unless they want to be boys! I love this thread :(
― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 15:56 (twenty years ago)
― The Lidl Shop Of Horrors (kate), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 15:57 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 15:59 (twenty years ago)
― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 16:02 (twenty years ago)
― ailsa (ailsa), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 16:08 (twenty years ago)
I wanted to be a figure-skating veterinarian astronaut who was also a cowgirl and a rockstar. I wanted to be a librarian FBI agent ranch owning trick rider. I wanted to be a principal horn playing tap-dancing opera/musical comedy diva. While I've done some of these things, I am none of these things.
― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 16:09 (twenty years ago)
I was beyond boys at age 8 and had moved on to practicing making out with my best female friend (also a ballerina). What's your point, fucktard?
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 16:26 (twenty years ago)
― Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 16:28 (twenty years ago)
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 16:29 (twenty years ago)
― Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 16:32 (twenty years ago)
Fuck eating some orange chicken, is all I have to say.
― Allyzay must fight Zolton herself. (allyzay), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 16:36 (twenty years ago)
― Jimmy Mod (I myself am lethal at 100 -110dB) (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 16:39 (twenty years ago)
Recently, Amber's teacher wanted her to join an 'elite' squad who get more individual tuition towards a career in ballet. Amber is seven.
To be honest, I'm not 'for' this as i don't think Amber wants to commit at this stage. I can see what they see in her: She's very pretty, skinny, not too tall, so has that 'elegance'. But heck, there are other things we could spend the money on. To their advantage, I shold say.
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 16:48 (twenty years ago)
― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 17:08 (twenty years ago)
Entirely objectively, Amber's pretty enough to do anything she wants to. I've known a lot of dancers and its a hand-to-mouth existance at the best of times. "You can be flying to antigua and chauffered to a shoot one week, and be handing out leaflets on street corners the next" as one told me, back in the day.
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 17:13 (twenty years ago)
― Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 17:22 (twenty years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 17:30 (twenty years ago)
― Roz (Roz), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 17:36 (twenty years ago)