this new movie, HOSTEL, by cabin fever guy

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(I'm really surprised this movie is good)

The best thing about Cabin Fever was that the dude whose strategy was 'disappear-into-woods-with-beer' managed to outlive everyone else. And the open wound fingerblast.

Haven't seen Cabin Fever, but enjoyed his talking-head contributions to Bravo's cheaply made 100 Scariest Movie Moments list. He gives much love to Miike's Audition in said list (#11 OMG), which Hostel seems to be aping / paying homage to (if the preview bits involving the snipping of toes are any sign).

Great fun through and through. Re: Miike, he makes an amusing cameo halfway through the film that got a chuckle from various nerds who needed to indicate that they "got" the joke (I was one of those nerds, and hated myself for doing it, but couldn't help it).

I think a strong argument could be made for the film having some worthwhile themes and ideas, but for now I'm still high on the *rush* of it.

FWIW, the marketing campaign is REALLY misleading - most people I've talked to assume the movie is wall-to-wall torture, but it's not at all like that. It's definitely really, really gross, but it's actually got a number of thoughtful set-ups and payoffs, and the torture scenes are all, arguably, plot-relevant.

"Wolf Creek," though, was a huge letdown for me... like "Hostel," it's a real slow burn of a horror movie, but I feel that that type of film needs to just explode into madness at the end to justify the buildup, and "WC" didn't do it for me... just not a lot of tension, and the never-scary super-talky-bad-guy.

especially about the non-wall-to-wallness of the torture.

FWIW, the marketing campaign is REALLY misleading - most people I've talked to assume the movie is wall-to-wall torture, but it's not at all like that. It's definitely really, really gross, but it's actually got a number of thoughtful set-ups and payoffs, and the torture scenes are all, arguably, plot-relevant.

otm. it far exceeded any expectations i had for it. i was sooo glad it wasn't wall-to-wall torture, that would've been unbearable.

also, it's a film that makes you reflect on your own reactions to it, especially with the more "cathartic" scenes toward the end.

if you look at the imdb page for this movie you'll see some slovaks up in arms about how this movie portrays slovakia. after this and eurotrip I kinda understand them.

Watching Hostel made me sweat.

This movie is garbage.

you hate hostels.

This movie is a blast.

you love hostels!

there wasn't enough hot water in the morning but the beds were comfy

Does the Cabin Boy guy have anything in the works?

I quite liked this film tbh.

cabin fever was great. hostel 1 i enjoyed too. hostel 2 however was just too sick in places without there being much reason for it. the part where that woman takes an axe (?) to the girl was a bit too much.

I think in part it was hilarious. The Japanese girl with her eye hanging out and then the guy cutting it off. You just gotta laugh, really. "Itai" Uh, yeah, that shit must hurt but HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ABLE TO WALK AROUND? Funny. In a good sense, I know it's not meant to be realistic. My comment isn't meant as a "ts ts ts that's RONGO." Not interested in seeing H2 though. I also saw Vacancy with Luke Wilson (who seemed abit bloated and thus slightly less yummy) and Kate Beckinsale (always yummy) which was also GRRR but not so gorey.

ok, was kind of amazingly drunk while watching Hostel 2 and i didn't understand the end of it. why did this Stuart guy go from semi-reasonable dude to psycho killer kind of immediately? also didn't get the "i'm not your wife" talk.

thought this was pretty great for 3/4 of it and then either it got shitty or i got too drunk. not sure. blurgh.

why did this Stuart guy go from semi-reasonable dude to psycho killer kind of immediately?

Because he saw his bromance pal's body in the elevator all eaten up by the guard dogs. The "I'm not your wife" talk was because girl victim grokked pretty quickly that he was doing this as misdirected hostility towards his emasculating wife.

a modern classic

better than SAW, but sort of the same?

haven't seen it in years though so i may be wrong.

Hated the first one, sort of hate-loved the second.

I'm down with all three of his first movies but holy shit has this guy turned into (?) a scumbag

SAVE ME THE SNEEPUR

kinda always has been by all accounts, he's a newton mass bro who happens to dig gore porn xp

Lol, I thought Newton Mass was the newest douche bro fitness craze for a second.

i mean, it could be?

in any event, never understood the appeal of this dude's movies, like they're definitely not scary and aren't even particularly disturbing aside from the grossness because none of it has any impact beyond initial shock, he either can't get actors who can make hay with his bad writing or can't direct them to be able to, there's nothing that interesting from like a mise en scene or cinematography perspective...what the hell is there?

Sometimes grossness is enough.

..what the hell is there?

Two essential movies about post-9/11 American xenophobia and slow-burn suspense. Thought of the second Hostel last week in the context of lion hunting.

http://www.vulture.com/2015/09/movie-review-green-inferno-goes-for-the-kills.html#

David Edelstein:

Yikes, did this movie take me back. I remember visiting the old Deuce — where I sat behind a guy who wasn’t just smoking pot, he was using a bong, great clouds rising to the peeling ceiling — to see Make Them Die Slowly, which I’d later learn was the American grindhouse title for Umberto Lenzi’s Cannibal Ferox. (Ferox turns out to be Latin for “fierce.”) For professed horror mavens, seeing these ugly, pointedly artless films was a test of manhood, though passing it seemed like failing a larger, more human one. The most acclaimed of the movies, Ruggero Deodato’s Cannibal Holocaust, featured actual killings of a giant sea turtle and a squirrel monkey. (I’m told — I skipped those chapters on the DVD.) The intention was to blur the line between documentary and fiction, and it worked. The tribesman looked real — maybe those non-actors were getting snuffed, too. You couldn’t be quite sure.

This was extremely silly

like they're definitely not scary and aren't even particularly disturbing aside from the grossness because none of it has any impact beyond initial shock,

this isnt really what hostel's like

eazy otm

there hasn't been a single interview with roth where he has seemed, IMO, intelligent enough to have actively intended these films as allegory, aside from apparently saying green inferno is m/l about "sjws on twitter" - which...lol - but idk a reasonable number of ppl I know and would call smart dig his shit for various reasons, so it's def a whistle I don't hear thing

i like cabin fever and hostel, LOVE hostel part II (the one that can least be dismissed as "kids, stay in your own lane" imo) but i have no interest in this and only some morbid interest in knock knock, the way i used to about neil labute movies - a fellow eli's certainly starting to resemble.

wouldn't be the first director whose sense of humor curdled after some frustrating years in hollywood, i mean compare rob reiner in the 80s to rob reiner in the 90s

This felt like a live action South Park episode

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This moron has had literally years to think about his finished film and what he's trying to say with it, and still seems utterly incapable of saying anything coherent in interviews. I haven't seen the movie yet, but I understand these are hardly weekend warrior kids in the crosshairs. Shitheads or no, these are activists who actually get on a plane, fly to the jungle, and literally face up against people with guns in the name of their protest. They might be stupid, but they're not cowards, and they're hardly college kids spending an afternoon forwarding chain emails.

Anyway, the most I get out of anything Roth has done has been sort of this junior league mirthful nihilism, and "Green Inferno" doesn't appear to be an exception.

Hostel is the only Roth film I've seen, and I happened to watch it the day after Wolf Creek, and it seemed extremely silly and lacking in menace in comparison.

well, i think silliness is one of its charms.

i like this guy's other movies, but i have zero desire to see Green Inferno. just not a horror sub-genre that i find remotely appealing.

Agreed, much prefer the alleged genre-appropriate 'silliness' of Hostel to the dreary faux-realism of Wolf Creek

I feel slightly less alone in my non-love for Wolf Creek.

Honestly, I was actually looking forward to Green Inferno, for no other reason than the shock and gore factors. I don't really look for any deeper meaning in Eli Roth films, because often times I don't really find it. Maybe that's just me.

Unfortunately, my town did not get this movie in any of our theaters. Should I be glad to be unintentionally spared?